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Cloud feedbacks29-04-2017 01:54
student33
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In the IPCC reports this feedbacks seems to either negative (for low level clouds) and positive for high level clouds.

What I don't understand is, where is the argument?

Why do different papers come to different conclusions?

What is the big argument debate about cloud feedback st the moment?

I've heard of Lindzen's Iris hypothesis but is there another big area where cloud feedback is debated?
Edited on 29-04-2017 01:55
29-04-2017 03:36
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More typical garbage from the IPCC.

We don't know the effect of a cloud on temperature. We can't determine what the temperature would have been had the cloud not been there.

A lot of people speculate about the possible effects of clouds. That's all they are: speculations. None of these theories result in anything falsifiable. None of these are a scientific theory. None of these can be formalized into mathematics, giving the theory power of prediction.

Feedback? That begins with a presumed idea that the cloud actually did affect the temperature. It also presumes the temperature in turn affects the cloud.
29-04-2017 06:05
still learning
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student33 wrote:
What is the big argument debate about cloud feedback st the moment?


"Big argument debate...?"

Not sure there is a big argument or debate on cloud feedbacks. Lots of uncertainty about aerosols and clouds, sure. Don't know if anybody claims to have a "right" answer.

You referred to the IPCC. Did you look at the cloud and aerosol part of the IPCC AR5 section on clouds and aerosols?
(at https://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar5/wg1/WG1AR5_Chapter07_FINAL.pdf
A pretty lengthy section. If that's not enough, there are literally hundreds of journal articles referenced in that section, all can be looked up and read.
29-04-2017 21:32
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still learning wrote:
student33 wrote:
What is the big argument debate about cloud feedback st the moment?


"Big argument debate...?"

Not sure there is a big argument or debate on cloud feedbacks. Lots of uncertainty about aerosols and clouds, sure. Don't know if anybody claims to have a "right" answer.

You referred to the IPCC. Did you look at the cloud and aerosol part of the IPCC AR5 section on clouds and aerosols?
(at https://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar5/wg1/WG1AR5_Chapter07_FINAL.pdf
A pretty lengthy section. If that's not enough, there are literally hundreds of journal articles referenced in that section, all can be looked up and read.


I don't waste my time with the IPCC. They just put out propaganda. None of it is science. Most of it violates physics or math.


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