Climate Change in the Bible19-01-2025 23:51 | |
Im a BM★★★★☆ (1795) |
At the time of the Garden of Eden, four rivers, including the Tigris and the Euphrates joined up there. The sea level was much much lower than it is today. Much of the former Garden of Eden is under salt water today. Back in the day it was freshwater wetland. Both rivers of Mesopotamia had much higher volume of water in their annual flows than they do today. The four rivers that joined in the freshwater wetlands of the Garden of Eden included two others, slightly farther south. They are both dry today. Climate change laid waste to most of the Garden of Eden before the rising sea submerged it. Climate change was a curse upon the land that turned their fertile delta farmlands into barrens of thorns and thistles. |
21-01-2025 18:13 | |
Im a BM★★★★☆ (1795) |
At the time of the Garden of Eden, four rivers, including the Tigris and the Euphrates joined up there. The sea level was much much lower than it is today. Much of the former Garden of Eden is under salt water today. Back in the day it was freshwater wetland. Both rivers of Mesopotamia had much higher volume of water in their annual flows than they do today. The four rivers that joined in the freshwater wetlands of the Garden of Eden included two others, flowing in farther south from what is now India and Saudi Arabia. They are both dry today, but the riverbeds they left behind are irrefutable proof that they once flowed there. Climate change laid waste to most of the Garden of Eden before the rising sea submerged much of it. Climate change was a "curse upon the ground" that turned their fertile delta farmlands into barrens of "thorns and thistles". |
22-01-2025 08:55 | |
Into the Night![]() (22922) |
Climate cannot change. It is not possible to measure the global sea level. |
22-01-2025 21:56 | |
Im a BM★★★★☆ (1795) |
At the time of the Garden of Eden, four rivers, including the Tigris and the Euphrates joined up there. The sea level was much much lower than it is today. Much of the former Garden of Eden is under salt water today. Back in the day it was freshwater wetland. Both rivers of Mesopotamia had much higher volume of water in their annual flows than they do today. The four rivers that joined in the freshwater wetlands of the Garden of Eden included two others, flowing in farther south from what is now India and Saudi Arabia. They are both dry today, but the riverbeds they left behind are irrefutable proof that they once flowed there. Climate change laid waste to most of the Garden of Eden before the rising sea submerged much of it. Climate change was a "curse upon the ground" that turned their fertile delta farmlands into barrens of "thorns and thistles". |
23-01-2025 01:01 | |
Into the Night![]() (22922) |
It is not possible to measure the global sea level. Climate cannot change. |
23-01-2025 02:10 | |
Im a BM★★★★☆ (1795) |
Climate can change. The Bible tells us so. At the time of the Garden of Eden, four rivers, including the Tigris and the Euphrates joined up there. The sea level was much much lower than it is today. Much of the former Garden of Eden is under salt water today. Back in the day it was freshwater wetland. Both rivers of Mesopotamia had much higher volume of water in their annual flows than they do today. The four rivers that joined in the freshwater wetlands of the Garden of Eden included two others, flowing in farther south from what is now India and Saudi Arabia. They are both dry today, but the riverbeds they left behind are irrefutable proof that they once flowed there. Climate change laid waste to most of the Garden of Eden before the rising sea submerged much of it. Climate change was a "curse upon the ground" that turned their fertile delta farmlands into barrens of "thorns and thistles". |
23-01-2025 04:32 | |
Spongy Iris![]() (1988) |
Im a BM wrote: When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth. Genesis 4:12 KJV ![]() |
23-01-2025 06:20 | |
Into the Night![]() (22922) |
Im a BM wrote: The Bible does not mention climate. Climate cannot change. Im a BM wrote: It is not possible to measure the global sea level. Im a BM wrote: The location of the Garden of Eden is unknown. Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
23-01-2025 21:56 | |
Im a BM★★★★☆ (1795) |
Into the Night wrote:Im a BM wrote: "You don't get to quote everyone." - Into the Night Childishly defiant, I'm going to go ahead and quote everyone, despite being told directly by Into the Night that I don't get to. "Thorns and thistles" The kind of vegetation that comes to dominate the plant community when climate conditions change from wet to dry. I am confident that the location of the Garden of Eden is KNOWN. I am confident that there is a lot of published scientific evidence to support a location consistent with the Biblical description. Four rivers that can be located on a map, with known natural history of their ebb and flow over the centuries. Even just PARTIAL drying can shrink the population that a river delta wetland can support. Thousands of years after Egyptians first built the levees and canals to farm the Nile Delta, and thousands of years BEFORE they built the big Dam on the Nile River... The Egyptian Empire was already long established when the climate got a lot drier. The annual volume of water flow significantly diminished. The land area of the Nile Delta that could still be farmed shrank by more than half. As the Nile Delta farmland closest to the desert dried up, it was first overtaken by "thorns and thistles" before becoming desert. Thorns and thistles crept in further and further toward the river, in a curse upon the ground. And speaking of SEA LEVEL, aren't there still Egyptian CITIES that used to sit on the coast of the Mediterranean, but now you can go down with scuba gear and check them out? If the sea didn't rise, the coastline got sucked down under it. |
23-01-2025 22:34 | |
Spongy Iris![]() (1988) |
And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads. Genesis 2:10 IMO, this is a symbol for the 4 chambers of the heart. ![]() |
24-01-2025 00:49 | |
Into the Night![]() (22922) |
Im a BM wrote: Omniscience fallacy. Im a BM wrote: Climate has no humidity. Climate cannot change. Im a BM wrote: Omniscience fallacy. Im a BM wrote: Omniscience fallacy. Im a BM wrote: Climate has no humidity. Climate cannot change. Im a BM wrote: So? Nothing to do with sea level. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
24-01-2025 18:04 | |
Spongy Iris![]() (1988) |
Im a BM wrote:Into the Night wrote:Im a BM wrote: The thorns and thistles surrounding a seed of wheat are very harsh. They cause rash. Even that thin brown casing holding in the white flour is not very desirable. Now that white flour is a very pure nutrition IMO. But I see Genesis chapter 3 as a metaphor about the temptation to indulge in the forbidden fruit. It brings rash and sorrow. ![]() Edited on 24-01-2025 18:04 |
24-01-2025 22:53 | |
Im a BM★★★★☆ (1795) |
Spongy Iris wrote:Im a BM wrote:Into the Night wrote:Im a BM wrote: "... the temptation to indulge in the forbidden fruit." Prior to the punishment inflicted AFTER their act of forbidden fruit indulgence, Adam and Eve got naked plenty of times, but they never boned. Their bodies wouldn't have even gotten much pleasure from it. But they didn't need to have sex and make babies because they were IMMORTAL. The lion lay next to the lamb, asexual and immortal. None of the animals ever died or boned before Adam and Eve committed the great infraction. The other animals got caught up in the collective punishment inflicted for the sins of Adam and Eve. Everything that breatheth was going to have to die from now on. The other animals also got the fringe benefits of the collective punishment for the BIG SIN that Adam and Eve alone were responsible for. Everything that breatheth was going to get to BONE from now on. The lion and lamb would both get to mature sexually into adults that could get down and BONE when the opportunity arose. There was another punishment, exclusive to Adam and Eve, that the other animals got off scott free for. Adam and Eve were cursed with the knowledge of good and evil. Sure, Adam and Eve were going to get to BONE. But they were going to have to feel shitty about it at some point in the process. The other animals all got to BONE, and they never had to feel BAD about it. Maybe they weren't cast ALL the way out of paradise, as Adam and Eve were. |
25-01-2025 21:55 | |
Spongy Iris![]() (1988) |
Im a BM wrote: The Garden of Eden is symbolic of the human body that is not defiled. The immortal jellyfish (Turritopsis dohrnii) have found their way back to Eden. They revert to a state of sexual immaturity and rejuvenate, after aging too far. They latch onto the sea floor, and grow a new polyp colony, asexually. It is a stretch to call them immortal IMO, because after they rejuvenate, they de-latch, then go back to the pleasure of dying. They are sure to eventually make a fatal blunder straddling both worlds like that IMO. Jesus Christ was an example of an immortal jellyfish revelation. His fast was rejuvenation, and his crucifixion, an orgy. It was written that the Lord God drove the man from Eden in chapter 3. I think that tells that the feminine spirit killed the masculine spirit in Adam: The Woman is symbolic of the feminine spirit; The Serpent is symbolic of the masculine spirit. Later in chapter 6 it was written that the Lord God shall not always strive with Man. ![]() Edited on 25-01-2025 22:23 |
26-01-2025 00:12 | |
Im a BM★★★★☆ (1795) |
Spongy Iris wrote:Im a BM wrote: I agree with the insightful observation that the Garden of Eden story includes the change to a human body during sexual maturation. And we could get into why it was SO OFFENSIVE to the powers that be when Adam and Eve dabbled in acquisition of knowledge that enabled them to "become as gods". So, the Garden of Eden story includes a little bit more than just the natural history of Mesopotamia and what happened to the earliest civilized society of river delta farmers. And there is NOTHING to be learned about evolutionary biology from it. Climate change brought on the "thorns and thistles" as an actual environmental change in the plant community as the wetlands of the Garden of Eden dried up. |
26-01-2025 00:25 | |
Into the Night![]() (22922) |
Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
26-01-2025 01:07 | |
Im a BM★★★★☆ (1795) |
Into the Night wrote:Im a BM wrote: SPAM spelled backwards is MAPS! MAPS show two dry rivers on either side of the northern end of the Persian Gulf. One from a desert area of Iran and the other from a desert area of Saudi Arabia. I think I mistakenly wrote "India" in previous posts. It was Iran. Geomorphologists confirm that several thousand years ago, these were mighty rivers whose flows must have created large deltas. MAPS show two rivers that still flow into the Persian Gulf from Iraq. Two very famous rivers with a recorded history going back thousands of years. The Tigris and Euphrates join into a common delta just before they reach the Persian Gulf. When the sea level was much lower, with so much water tied up in glacier ice over so much of the land, all four mentioned rivers joined into a common delta wetland before reaching the waters of the Persian Gulf. That part of the Persian Gulf was much smaller than it is today, and most of the area that was the Garden of Eden is now under sea water. But climate change dried it out into a barren land of thorns and thistles before climate-change-induced sea level rise submerged the Garden of Eden. |
26-01-2025 01:17 | |
Spongy Iris![]() (1988) |
Im a BM wrote:Spongy Iris wrote:Im a BM wrote: You must mean these words differently than I usually understand: human body and NOTHING. It sure sounds like Eve got a lot of power from that knowledge of good and evil. She never died! Can't say the same for Adam, who lived to the ripe old age of 930. But I guess his seed still lives on today. ![]() |
26-01-2025 01:47 | |
IBdaMann![]() (14939) |
Im a BM wrote: Climate can change. The Bible tells us so. There is no climate change. The Bible confirms this. At the time of the Garden of Eden, four rivers, including the Tigris and the Euphrates joined up there. Im a BM wrote: The sea level was much much lower than it is today. Omniscience fallacy. Nobody knows the unrecorded, unmeasured, unmeasurable distant past. Im a BM wrote: Much of the former Garden of Eden is under salt water today. 1. Nobody knows where the Garden of Eden was, much less where it is now located. 2. If the Garden of Eden is under the ocean, the presumption is, until otherwise shown, that the Garden of Eden sank, like much of the earth's coastland. Im a BM wrote: Back in the day it was freshwater wetland. Omniscience fallacy. Nobody knows the unrecorded, unmeasured, unmeasurable distant past. Im a BM wrote: Both rivers of Mesopotamia had much higher volume of water in their annual flows than they do today. Meaningless statement that says nothing. All rivers, glaciers, lakes, mountains, valleys, streams, etc. change constantly over time. They are all born at some point, grow, wane and die. [quote]Im a BM wrote: Climate change laid waste to most of the Garden of Eden before the rising sea submerged much of it. [b] The Bible confirms that there was never any climate change. |
26-01-2025 22:28 | |
Into the Night![]() (22922) |
Im a BM wrote:Into the Night wrote:Im a BM wrote: You don't know what happened in the distance past. Climate cannot change. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
30-01-2025 01:14 | |
Im a BM★★★★☆ (1795) |
"There is no climate change." - IBdaMann This assertion pretty much sums up everything that IBdaMann has to contribute to any discussion about climate change. The claim is incorrect. There most certainly IS climate change. Occurring before our eyes in the present, and recorded in our mythology from the past. It is because climate scientists have robust data set of past climate change for comparison that they can distinguish MAN MADE CLIMATE CHANGE as something above and beyond the glaciation cycle. Nature was putting the brakes on global warming and getting ready to go back to growing glaciers and decreasing sea levels again. Nature was trying to put on the brakes when humans hit the accelerator and FLOORED IT. It is very plausible that there is no climate change that IBdaMann is aware of or is willing and able to comprehend. Which leaves very little to discuss. IBdaMann loves to tell OTHERS "You are a scientifically illiterate moron." Ironically, or perhaps very predictably based on human psychology and the nature of projection and inversion, it is IBdaMann who most closely matches the definition of a "scientifically illiterate moron". Edited on 30-01-2025 02:07 |
30-01-2025 05:30 | |
Into the Night![]() (22922) |
Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. Im a BM wrote: Climate is not a branch of science. Im a BM wrote: Void reference fallacy. There is no dataset of something that cannot happen. Climate cannot change. Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. What 'glaciation cycle'?? Im a BM wrote: It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. It is not possible to measure the total snow and ice on Earth. It is not possible to measure the global sea level. You are denying mathematics again. Im a BM wrote: Climate is not a car. Climate cannot change. Im a BM wrote: You aren't discussing anything. Im a BM wrote: Only scientifically illiterate morons like you. Im a BM wrote: You cannot blame your problem on IBdaMann or anybody else, Robert. You are a scientifically illiterate moron. You have so far denied the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics, the Stefan-Boltzmann law, Newton's laws, and most of chemistry. You have also denied statistical mathematics, probability mathematics, random number mathematics, and algebra. You have also denied logic. Your buzzwords won't save you here. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
05-02-2025 02:03 | |
Im a BM★★★★☆ (1795) |
"There is no climate change." - IBdaMann This assertion pretty much sums up everything that IBdaMann has to contribute to any discussion about climate change. The claim is incorrect. There most certainly IS climate change. Occurring before our eyes in the present, and recorded in our mythology from the past. It is because climate scientists have robust data set of past climate change for comparison that they can distinguish MAN MADE CLIMATE CHANGE as something above and beyond the glaciation cycle. Nature was putting the brakes on global warming and getting ready to go back to growing glaciers and decreasing sea levels again. Nature was trying to put on the brakes when humans hit the accelerator and FLOORED IT. It is very plausible that there is no climate change that IBdaMann is aware of or is willing and able to comprehend. Which leaves very little to discuss. IBdaMann loves to tell OTHERS "You are a scientifically illiterate moron." Ironically, or perhaps very predictably based on human psychology and the nature of projection and inversion, it is IBdaMann who most closely matches the definition of a "scientifically illiterate moron". |
06-02-2025 04:46 | |
Into the Night![]() (22922) |
Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. Im a BM wrote: Climate is not a branch of science. Im a BM wrote: Climate is not data. Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. Im a BM wrote: Climate is not a glacier. What 'glaciation cycle'??? Im a BM wrote: The Church of Global Warming is not a vehicle. Im a BM wrote: There are glaciers already growing. Im a BM wrote: It is not possible to measure the global sea level. Im a BM wrote: Nature is not a vehicle. Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. Im a BM wrote: You aren't discussing anything. Im a BM wrote: Only scientifically illiterate morons, like you. Im a BM wrote: LIF. Grow up. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
06-02-2025 18:27 | |
Im a BM★★★★☆ (1795) |
"Climate cannot change." "Climate cannot change." "Climate cannot change." "Climate cannot change" "Climate cannot change" "Climate cannot change" - Into the Night (see previous post where sentence is repeated six times) "There is no climate change." - IBdaMann These assertions pretty much sums up everything that IBdaMann and Into the Night have to contribute to any discussion about climate change. The claims are incorrect. Climate most certainly CAN change, as it has been doing for about 4500 million years already. There most certainly IS climate change, as we see today. Occurring before our eyes in the present, and recorded in the Earth's geology and geomorphology, as well as in our mythology from the past. It is because climate scientists have robust data set of past climate change for comparison that they can distinguish MAN MADE CLIMATE CHANGE as something above and beyond the glaciation cycle. Nature was putting the brakes on global warming and getting ready to go back to growing glaciers and decreasing sea levels again. Nature was trying to put on the brakes when humans hit the accelerator and FLOORED IT. It is very plausible that there is no climate change that IBdaMann is aware of or is willing and able to comprehend. That does not mean it does not exist. It just means that IBdaMann is ignorant of it. For more than nine years, others have explicitly tried to help him understand the reality of things. If IBdaMann were capable of understanding it, this would have already happened years ago. It is more than just plausible that Into the Night honestly believes that climate cannot change. Feelings are not facts. Belief is not evidence. For more than nine years, others have explicitly tried to help him understand the reality of things. If Into the Night were capable of understanding it, this would have already happened years ago. Which leaves very little to discuss with these particular individuals. Into daMann functions as a two headed troll who has dominated the discussion at this website for nearly a decade, with about 38,000 posts at this point. More than a third of ALL POSTS EVER on this website are by Into daMann. Into daMann loves to tell OTHERS "You are a scientifically illiterate moron." Ironically, or perhaps very predictably based on human psychology and the nature of projection and inversion, it is Into daMann who most closely matches the definition of a "scientifically illiterate moron". |
08-02-2025 10:01 | |
Into the Night![]() (22922) |
Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. Im a BM wrote: Climate cannot change. Im a BM wrote: Climate is not geology. Climate cannot change. Im a BM wrote: Climate is not a glacier. Climate is not a cycle. Climate cannot change. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
09-02-2025 08:36 | |
IBdaMann![]() (14939) |
Im a BM wrote: There most certainly IS climate change. Occurring before our eyes in the present, and recorded in our mythology from the past. How do you know? Climate Change is completely undefined. Following your logic, there most certainly is Vlothooscenchirigniasis, occurring before our eyes in the present, and recorded in our mythology from the past. Your logic is stupid, and I think you can see that. Im a BM wrote:It is because climate scientists have robust data set of past climate change for comparison that they can distinguish MAN MADE CLIMATE CHANGE as something above and beyond the glaciation cycle. Following your logic, it is because Vlothooscenchirigniasis scientists have robust data set of past Vlothooscenchirigniasis for comparison that they can distinguish MAN MADE VLOTHOOSCENCHIRIGNIASIS as something above and beyond the normal weather patterns stemming from the decadal oscillations. Im a BM wrote: Nature was putting the brakes on global warming and getting ready to go back to growing glaciers and decreasing sea levels again. Nature was putting the brakes on global flowing and getting ready to go back to growing polarities and decreasing subspace inversions again. Im a BM wrote:Nature was trying to put on the brakes when humans hit the accelerator and FLOORED IT. Nature was trying to put on the brakes when humans and cows hit the accelerator and FLOORED IT. Im a BM wrote: It is very plausible that there is no climate change that IBdaMann is aware of or is willing and able to comprehend. It is very plausible that there is no Vlothooscenchirigniasis that Robup Northert is aware of or is willing and able to comprehend. Which leaves very little to discuss. Robup Northert loves to tell OTHERS "I am a thienth geniuth becauth I never define my termth." |
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