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Citizens Climate Lobby Australia26-09-2021 13:41
duncan61
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I have received an invite from this organisation to attend a meeting next Sunday morning.Their big deal is to harrass the government to do something about the climate emergency we are experiencing right now or we will all die.I will be meeting real live eco warriors and climate champions.How lucky am I and once I ask about sea levels how many milliseconds do you think I will be welcome for even though the mission statement declares that as part of integrity differing opinions are welcome.The event is at the newly constructed Elizabeth keys smack bang in the middle of Perth where there is a brew house.Shame it will all be under water next week and there has been billions spent.


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26-09-2021 16:57
HarveyH55Profile picture★★★★★
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duncan61 wrote:
I have received an invite from this organisation to attend a meeting next Sunday morning.Their big deal is to harrass the government to do something about the climate emergency we are experiencing right now or we will all die.I will be meeting real live eco warriors and climate champions.How lucky am I and once I ask about sea levels how many milliseconds do you think I will be welcome for even though the mission statement declares that as part of integrity differing opinions are welcome.The event is at the newly constructed Elizabeth keys smack bang in the middle of Perth where there is a brew house.Shame it will all be under water next week and there has been billions spent.


Being that Australia is basically a big island. Rising sea levels should be abundantly clear for all to see for themselves. The coastal cities should be all in dire need of help. People living on the surrounding small islands would have abandon them years ago.

Tropical storms are 'more frequent, and stronger'... Combined with rising sea levels, the storm surge should be completely destroying a lot of property. Don't know about how Australia does weather, but here, pretty much every storm gets a name. Most are Cat 4 at landfall, but quickly get downgraded to Tropical storms. In under an hour... I've been living in Florida for about 35 years or so. Survived many hurricanes. A major storm (Cat 3 or better), would only downgrade maybe one category, and continue on through the state as a hurricane. It would pass through a couple states, be for downgrading to tropical storm status. We don't have a storm-killer machine, or do anything but monitor storms. Why does a Cat 4 storm, suddenly loose most of it's power at landfall these days? Most east coast state have experienced the heavy rains from tropical storms for years. May not have had a hurricane in decades, but tropical storms still dump a lot of rain, and flood. Most of those states use to have mitigation, for storm waters. Storm water management is costly, labor intensive, and needs to be done the whole year in Florida. Most other states, only need to worry a few months each year. There is federal disaster relief money, and insurance, so why bother... Disaster is good for a local economy, when money from out of state comes in to clean up, and rebuild. Creates jobs. Everybody wins, and gets new stuff.
03-10-2021 09:48
duncan61
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I went to the meeting and it was great.Because it was posted on meetup there were a lot of new people who didn't care about climate issues and were just socialising.it was just an informal gathering and by pure fortune I ended up next to the organiser,They are not fanatical and have no intention of glueing themselves to the road just concerned about the propaganda they are being fed.I had my moment and challenged the warming claim and sea levels rising and no one screamed Heritic and tried to burn me at the stake.Darren admitted it is a feel good excersise
03-10-2021 16:33
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duncan61 wrote:
I went to the meeting and it was great.Because it was posted on meetup there were a lot of new people who didn't care about climate issues and were just socialising.it was just an informal gathering and by pure fortune I ended up next to the organiser,They are not fanatical and have no intention of glueing themselves to the road just concerned about the propaganda they are being fed.I had my moment and challenged the warming claim and sea levels rising and no one screamed Heritic and tried to burn me at the stake.Darren admitted it is a feel good excersise


Climate Change is a real concern. Purely political though. I'm not sure why people are actually buying into the scam. The politicians only profit from it, while the working man is getting screwed over. Solar panels and windmills aren't sustainable at all, less than a 20 year life span. Just long enough for proof of concept, before major failures. Both take up a lot of real estate. Nobody seems to question clearing all that land for them, and the ecological impact. Which, is just shocking, since the whole thing is about saving the planet, not destroying it.

The batteries used for everything, don't last forever. The high demand will keep them expensive to buy, and replace, frequently. Recycling is a little more involved and costly, than lead-acid batteries. Something that needs to be addressed, before shutting down the gas pumps. Recyclable batteries, cheap to refurbish, should be a requirement.

Even the IPCC will admit that it's not possible to stop, or reverse the course, they only hope to slow it down. Seem like the warming they are selling, is already at a very slow pace, in terms of human life expectancy. No one living today, is likely to see any of the scorched earth prophecies fulfilled. Nor any effect of the battle to alter the natural course. Nature has always thrown catastrophes at us, long before we learned to burn anything. Nature had been playing with fire, long before mankind. All the climate change crap, has always existed. Some years have been worse than others. Our species doesn't survive by changing natural forces, but by adapting, and harnessing them. We often fail, but we persist in trying. It's political nonsense to believe we can control the natural destructive forces.
03-10-2021 19:47
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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HarveyH55 wrote:
duncan61 wrote:
I went to the meeting and it was great.Because it was posted on meetup there were a lot of new people who didn't care about climate issues and were just socialising.it was just an informal gathering and by pure fortune I ended up next to the organiser,They are not fanatical and have no intention of glueing themselves to the road just concerned about the propaganda they are being fed.I had my moment and challenged the warming claim and sea levels rising and no one screamed Heritic and tried to burn me at the stake.Darren admitted it is a feel good excersise


Climate Change is a real concern. Purely political though. I'm not sure why people are actually buying into the scam. The politicians only profit from it, while the working man is getting screwed over. Solar panels and windmills aren't sustainable at all, less than a 20 year life span. Just long enough for proof of concept, before major failures. Both take up a lot of real estate. Nobody seems to question clearing all that land for them, and the ecological impact. Which, is just shocking, since the whole thing is about saving the planet, not destroying it.

The batteries used for everything, don't last forever. The high demand will keep them expensive to buy, and replace, frequently. Recycling is a little more involved and costly, than lead-acid batteries. Something that needs to be addressed, before shutting down the gas pumps. Recyclable batteries, cheap to refurbish, should be a requirement.

Even the IPCC will admit that it's not possible to stop, or reverse the course, they only hope to slow it down. Seem like the warming they are selling, is already at a very slow pace, in terms of human life expectancy. No one living today, is likely to see any of the scorched earth prophecies fulfilled. Nor any effect of the battle to alter the natural course. Nature has always thrown catastrophes at us, long before we learned to burn anything. Nature had been playing with fire, long before mankind. All the climate change crap, has always existed. Some years have been worse than others. Our species doesn't survive by changing natural forces, but by adapting, and harnessing them. We often fail, but we persist in trying. It's political nonsense to believe we can control the natural destructive forces.


The whole religion stems from the Church of Green. It's goal of course stems from the Church of Karl Marx. It is to justify fascism...in this case that you are discussing, government manipulation of the energy markets.

It doesn't matter what is 'more efficient'. It doesn't matter what is 'more Green'. It doesn't matter what is 'better'. There is no better. People should be free to buy the energy in the form they want.

Such things as soot or acid rain can be easily dealt with as systems improve. Coal burning plants, for example, can easily deal with inefficient burns and easily remove sulfur dioxides from their emissions. What goes up the stack is nothing more than CO2 and water. Coal is also cheap. That means there is plenty of it.

Oil and methane are renewable fuels. They are cheap. That means there is plenty of it. Artificial shortages created by idiots like Biden's Handlers is why prices are so high right now. That is fascism. There is no other word for it.

Socialism always creates misery. Fascism is no exception to it. Socialism is theft.


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04-10-2021 00:48
duncan61
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My CO2 meter was a hit and it sat under a tree bouncing around all morning but mostly around the 400 ppm.The big winner was the digital temperature gun as I shot a bunch of readings on the water and land and had differences over 5.C and gently asked what is the temperature right now and then said NASA claim to know the world average to .00 and then claim its gone up 0.01.I found what I was looking for.A coffee shop full of Warmazombies to play with.I would do it again if they let me
04-10-2021 16:14
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Duncan,

IBD and I have held prior correspondence with the Citizens Climate Lobby Australia and have found it to be a complete sham.




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