Case fatality rate
| Case fatality rate17-04-2020 02:22 | |
| keepit★★★★★ (3058) |
Dr. Scott Gottlieb was just on CNBC stating that the case fatality rate in NYC is 10 times that of the flu. By the way, he knows the difference between the flu and covid19. I read on WEBMD that herd immunity for the covid19 needs to be 50% to 67% of the population to be immune. Also, Dr. Gottlieb thinks that 1 million new yorkers have contracted the covid. This amounts to about 12 or 13% of the population which is consistent with the survey of pregnant women at a NYC clinic showing 13 1/2% of that population having contracted the virus. Edited on 17-04-2020 02:59 |
| 17-04-2020 06:13 | |
| James___★★★★★ (5513) |
keepit wrote: With the information they now have, hopefully they can show how or if the coronavirus is radiating from hot spots. That's a piece of the puzzle that hasn't been made known. And in pursuing a move back to normalcy, I would think that needs to be known. Right now we simply don't know how it's spreading. With spreading, from one area to another and the number of infected people. What if people are riding the bus? Kind of why IMHO everyone should choose to wear a mask of some type. That would reduce the risk of transmission. And with what it's doing to our economy, wearing a mask is cheap in comparison. Next time we'll know, right? Hopefully. |
| 17-04-2020 06:19 | |
tmiddles ★★★★★(3979) |
keepit wrote:...Dr. Gottlieb thinks that 1 million new yorkers have contracted the covid. This amounts to about 12 or 13% of the population ....Really interesting. I get it now if the pregnant women you mentioned before were all in New York. |
| 17-04-2020 13:41 | |
IBdaMann ★★★★★(14389) |
tmiddles wrote:I get it now if the pregnant women you mentioned before were all in New York. I wouldn't go that far. Claiming that you "get" anything is a stretch. . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
| 17-04-2020 17:57 | |
gfm7175 ★★★★★(3314) |
keepit wrote: WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!! No really, we are all going to die... one way or another... eventually. keepit wrote: There is no "the flu". There are numerous viruses that are flu. COVID-19 is one such virus. keepit wrote: Kinda hard to go for "herd immunity" when the various governors are issuing royal decrees to stay "safer at home", eh? Make up yer damn minds!! keepit wrote: Well, then Dr. Gottlieb is simply pulling a random number out of his ass. Meh. keepit wrote: Funny how one can make numbers match up with other numbers if they so desire them to match, eh?? Again, meh. Still batting 0.000 Edited on 17-04-2020 17:58 |
| 17-04-2020 18:00 | |
| gfm7175★★★★★ (3314) |
IBdaMann wrote:tmiddles wrote:I get it now if the pregnant women you mentioned before were all in New York. Seconded... |
| 17-04-2020 18:02 | |
| gfm7175★★★★★ (3314) |
tmiddles wrote:keepit wrote:...Dr. Gottlieb thinks that 1 million new yorkers have contracted the covid. This amounts to about 12 or 13% of the population ....Really interesting. I get it now if the pregnant women you mentioned before were all in New York. We're ALL pregnant women according to the hitless wonder... remember? |
| 17-04-2020 22:17 | |
| keepit★★★★★ (3058) |
You're confused gfm. |
| 18-04-2020 02:17 | |
| tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
keepit wrote:Not about truth for these guys it's about winning. Which is ironic with all the losing they have been subject to at our hands. Fast forward a few months when the next would be denier devotee comes to the board and all we have to say to sum up this gang that couldn't shoot straight was that they dismissed Covid-19 as "mild". Really makes it too easy. |
| 18-04-2020 02:44 | |
| keepit★★★★★ (3058) |
Tmid, You'd think they could look forward and see, but no - truth isn't what they're looking for. |
| 18-04-2020 03:55 | |
| IBdaMann★★★★★ (14389) |
tmiddles wrote: they dismissed Covid-19 as "mild". Really makes it too easy. Yes, the coronaflu is a weaker-than-average flu, but I specifically dismissed COVID-19 as a HOAX. I wish you would get that straight. This is the Democrats' hoax #3. Hoax #1: Russian colllllluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuusion. Hoax #2: Impeach Trump ... for doing his job. Hoax #3: Flu season! Give it a name and shut down the economy! We still have time until November for Hoax #4. Would anyone care to take a stab at what THAT one will be? . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
| 18-04-2020 04:51 | |
| James___★★★★★ (5513) |
IBdaMann wrote:tmiddles wrote: they dismissed Covid-19 as "mild". Really makes it too easy. There was no Russian collusion. Russia had no information of value. It's like you can't rob a bank unless it has money. With #2, Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky is actually running the country. He passes budgets, seats judges, passed the CARES Act. President Trump is like the Queen of England. She rules over the British Empire but can't pass a budget or seat a judge either. Like President Trump, she inspires her people. With #3, everyone could wear a mask for a month. But like Harvey said, many people are getting a well deserved break from work. As for #4, someone will be on the ballot for POTUS that wasn't involved with Burmis such as having a family member sitting on it's board or for asking for an investigation during an election cycle. I find this hilarious. People love controversy and the 2 most controversial candidates will be on the ballot. They give Americans something to fight for, a cause they can believe in. Welcome to the Divided States of America. p.s., that's a pun. ie., United We Stand, Divided We Fall. This last one is hoax #5. |
| 18-04-2020 05:05 | |
| keepit★★★★★ (3058) |
Tmid, That statistic about pregnant women was from a clinic in NYC. The thing is, i've heard on the media that there are some extreme infection rates in various parts of the country. This thing may be more contagious than thought which would make the case fatality rate lower but still cause a greater chance of dying due to the sheer numbers of infections. Bottom line, physical distancing is helping the situation. The growing resistance to distancing is playing with fire. Edited on 18-04-2020 05:06 |
| 18-04-2020 05:11 | |
HarveyH55 ★★★★★(5196) |
Could it be that the pregnant women that tested positive, were seeking abortions, associated with another form of risky behavior, like working in the adult 'entertainment' industry. Wonder what other viruses they were passing around. |
| 18-04-2020 05:19 | |
| keepit★★★★★ (3058) |
Harvey, What do you base those assertions on? Or is it just OOYA? Edited on 18-04-2020 05:22 |
| 18-04-2020 10:22 | |
| tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
IBdaMann wrote: So Boris Johnson was hospitalized and Italy faked a crisis, among other things, because Nancy Peloci is a being more powerful than you could possibly imagine and her will shall be done? The objective being to knock a few points off Trumps poll numbers? Could it be you IBD are simply faking this mental IBS to continue to duck the debunking you've suffered on this board? Misuse of the 1st LTD, Plancks Law/SB Law, and glaring hypocrisy of "Valid Data" exposed: https://www.climate-debate.com/forum/venus-is-hotter-than-mercury--d6-e2710-s720.php#post_53762 33 days with no reply Here: Debating "photons of the lower temperature object are not absorbed by the higher temperature object." and that the a light bulb absorbs the radiance from an oven, IBD claims "go ahead ... I'm ready to debate it.": https://www.climate-debate.com/forum/the-radiative-greenhouse-effect-does-not-exist-d10-e3047-s40.php#post_53357 40 days with no reply And Here: 2nd Law and disproving IBD's confusion about Earth being a isolated system: https://www.climate-debate.com/forum/2nd-law-d6-e3030-s80.php#post_53063 46 days with no reply "Good tests kill flawed theories; we remain alive to guess again." - Karl Popper ITN/IBD Fraud exposed: The 2nd LTD add on claiming radiance from cooler bodies can't be absorbed Max Planck debunks, they can't explain:net-thermal-radiation-you-in-a-room-as-a-reference & Proof: no data is valid for IBD or ITN |
| 18-04-2020 10:37 | |
| IBdaMann★★★★★ (14389) |
tmiddles wrote:So Boris Johnson was hospitalized Did he die or did he just get the flu? tmiddles wrote: and Italy faked a crisis, Italy tried to mask their true crisis, their shitty socialized medicine system, with a fake "crisis" which they could plausibly blame. They were under immense pressure to blame every ailment in the country on coronahoax so as to divert attention away from the inherent shittiness of their socialized medicine. Same with China. tmiddles wrote: The objective being to knock a few points off Trumps poll numbers? Exactly. This is Hoax #3 in the battle for the White House. Wreck the economy and hope the people blame Trump. Just out of curiosity, who do you think is buying your claim of having "defeated" me in, ... well, anything? You can't win any debate when you never discuss anything in the first place. One can only speculate as to who you believe you are somehow fooling. I don't think you have ever been honest, thus precluding anyone from even perceiving that you ever made some sort of point, much less "won" any debate. . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
| 18-04-2020 11:36 | |
| tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
IBdaMann wrote:He ended up in the hospital. You ever hospitalized from the flu? Not me.tmiddles wrote:So Boris Johnson was hospitalized Was it theater? You must believe he is in on the hoax right? IBdaMann wrote:and the UK, France, Germany...tmiddles wrote: and Italy faked a crisis, So the motive was to have a good excuse for deaths that would have occured anyway due to shitty healthcare? This "cover story" only being usable for as long as this plays out? I just don't see a motive there. Italy wanted to avoid culpabilty in cardiac arrest, stroke and other preventable deaths for a couple months by blaming it all on Covid-19 to avoid the embarrassment? It just sounds like an insane theory. Really really stupid too. IBdaMann wrote:so what did I refuse to discuss? Be specific. I certainly have been. |
| 18-04-2020 19:53 | |
Into the Night ★★★★★(21582) |
tmiddles wrote:IBdaMann wrote:so what did I refuse to discuss? Be specific. I certainly have been. Anything. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| 19-04-2020 00:28 | |
| tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
Into the Night wrote:tmiddles wrote: spe·cif·ic /spəˈsifik/ adjective 1. clearly defined or identified. How about the fact that Earth is not an isolated system so the application of the 1st LTD by you and IBD is wrong (thanks to KeepIt for raising this issue). Shown here Let's discuss that. And no it aint no RQAA birdy. |
| 19-04-2020 04:27 | |
| James___★★★★★ (5513) |
tmiddles wrote:Into the Night wrote:tmiddles wrote: I think ITN confuses with sep·tic /ˈseptik/ Learn to pronounce adjective adjective: septic 1. infected with microorganisms, especially harmful bacteria. |
| 19-04-2020 04:35 | |
| HarveyH55★★★★★ (5196) |
Lot of people still have septic tanks, instead of the city sewer. Wouldn't think these tanks are full of harmful bacteria. |
| 19-04-2020 05:04 | |
| James___★★★★★ (5513) |
HarveyH55 wrote: And I bet that you wash your hands after wiping your butt, right? If not then you definitely have no fear. |
| 19-04-2020 05:17 | |
| HarveyH55★★★★★ (5196) |
James___ wrote:HarveyH55 wrote: I tend to wash my hands, pretty much anytime I'm near a sink. Any luck getting Medicare to pay to install your septic-sack... |
| 19-04-2020 06:06 | |
| IBdaMann★★★★★ (14389) |
tmiddles wrote: He ended up in the hospital. He's the head of state, moron. If he so much as gets the sniffles they run him to the hospital and get him checked. If he has any symptoms then he stays there with a team of doctors and other specialists hovering over him like hawks. So, what's your point? tmiddles wrote: You ever hospitalized from the flu? Not me. Exactly, moron. Did you notice that neither you nor I were hospitalized? If only we had just continued with our normal lives, ... tmiddles wrote: and the UK, France, Germany... Exactly, they also have shitty socialized medicine that they cannot allow to be exposed as being shitty. There is simply way too much at stake for them to NOT shift blame onto a convenient hoax crisis. tmiddles wrote:I just don't see a motive there. Your blindness is as convenient as it is intentional. . I don't think i can [define it]. I just kind of get a feel for the phrase. - keepit A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist. The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank :*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist |
| 19-04-2020 08:19 | |
| tmiddles★★★★★ (3979) |
IBdaMann wrote:so your theory is all these countries are lying and blaming Covid-19 for deaths that would have occured anyway?tmiddles wrote: and the UK, France, Germany... It just seems so odd and stupid as a motive. The cost is huge. All governments love tax revenue so the shutdowns are entirely against their own interests. It's just such a stupid theory IBD. Please go on! Do you imagine there might be any whistleblowers in any of these countries who might expose this vast conspiracy? |
| 19-04-2020 08:59 | |
| duncan61★★★★★ (2021) |
Septic tanks work by breaking down effluent with anaerobic and aerobic bacteria.I have installed biocycle treatment plants on minesites that pump air through baffles in the effluent that accelerate the process and the treated waste is pumped on to garden beds it has a slight soapy smell and feel and I would not drink it.Bit of useless information I did say I was staying home today |
| 19-04-2020 17:47 | |
| James___★★★★★ (5513) |
duncan61 wrote: Some places like California are now recycling waste water for human consumption. What do you do when wells go dry? In Jordan they use reclaimed water for irrigation since it is a water poor country. If you look at the US west of the Mississippi River, California has already started doing it and soon other states will need to as well. Kind of goes back to managing resources. |
| 19-04-2020 19:04 | |
| HarveyH55★★★★★ (5196) |
James___ wrote:duncan61 wrote: We used reclaimed watering lawns and landscape for years, in Florida. But when the shutdown the old treatment plant here in town, and our drought ended, I think the stopped doing it in my town. Next town over still does though. We aren't really hurting for water in Florida, just sometimes drinking water gets a little low, for a few months. Most likely, we had some democrats (Charlie Crist), who saw some federal money, and got hooked into another expensive, non-sustainable project. Costs more to process, same cost to deliver, but limited use, means they can't expect to sell much, at a higher price. Probably made better sense in other states, but not Florida. |
| 19-04-2020 23:01 | |
| James___★★★★★ (5513) |
HarveyH55 wrote:James___ wrote:duncan61 wrote: Hmm, and about 90% of the drinking water in Florida comes from springs. It's sink holes come from underground rivers. But as you said, you can type anything you want because you don't know enough to have an informed opinion. Please learn something about your states fresh water resources. It looks bad when you don't understand them. |
| 20-04-2020 00:16 | |
| Into the Night★★★★★ (21582) |
James___ wrote:HarveyH55 wrote:James___ wrote:duncan61 wrote: WRONG. Much of Florida's drinking water comes from aquifers, not springs. Sinkholes are caused by the limestone underlying most of Florida dissolving as water moves upwards towards the many springs around Florida. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| 20-04-2020 03:47 | |
| HarveyH55★★★★★ (5196) |
We have a lot of fresh water, above ground, well sort of... Think I'd boil it first. Another month, and we should be getting inches of fresh water dumped from the sky, several times a week. Not sure where you get the insane notion that fresh water only comes from underground sources. Have you be snacking on your meds again? |
| 20-04-2020 07:45 | |
| Into the Night★★★★★ (21582) |
HarveyH55 wrote: I never said fresh water only comes from underground. The Parrot Killer Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit nuclear powered ships do not require nuclear fuel. - Swan While it is true that fossils do not burn it is also true that fossil fuels burn very well - Swan |
| 20-04-2020 08:03 | |
| James___★★★★★ (5513) |
HarveyH55 wrote: And it comes with water moccasins. Maybe you should mention what lives in your fresh water that's above ground? Water moccasins can't live in clean water. C'mon man, you live in Florida... Let's see, Little Rock, Arkansas, 37 inches of rain per year Miami, FL, 74 inches per year. Harvey, I've lived in Florida before. It's flat. The rain runs off into the ocean or the Gulf of Mexico. Get help. p.s., in Florida they say the St. John's River is the only river in North America that flows north. The Red River in North Dakota, North Dakota is a part of the US, it flows north as well. That's if you can talk about something other than Florida. Edited on 20-04-2020 08:36 |
| 20-04-2020 08:40 | |
| James___★★★★★ (5513) |
There is a common belief in northeast Florida, especially in the city of Jacksonville, that there are only two rivers in the world that flow north: One is the St. Johns and the other one is the Nile. Scroll down to Red River. It actually flows north into Canada before returning to the US. https://www.thoughtco.com/rivers-flowing-north-1435099 Ya'all can have Harvey. The more people that die from the coronavirus, the better he feels. That's because he's not afraid of it. Edited on 20-04-2020 08:47 |
| 20-04-2020 10:17 | |
| HarveyH55★★★★★ (5196) |
Into the Night wrote:HarveyH55 wrote: Is you name, 'James'? |
| 20-04-2020 10:28 | |
| HarveyH55★★★★★ (5196) |
James___ wrote:There is a common belief in northeast Florida, especially in the city of Jacksonville, that there are only two rivers in the world that flow north: One is the St. Johns and the other one is the Nile. Death, is normal, we all are going to die, eventually. I just prefer to make best use of the time I have, by actually living. You, and your friends can hide in the basement, hope to avoid the Grim Reaper, another year. |
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