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Carnot12-02-2020 20:45
keepit
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Carnot invented the 2nd law (entropy) even though he didn't know what entropy was. A good example of someone's formula being smarter than they were.
Some here don't know what climate or climate change is. Some do however.
12-02-2020 21:51
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote:Carnot invented the 2nd law (entropy) even though he didn't know what entropy was.

You are becoming more efficient. You are finding ways to express multiple errors in each sentence.

1) Carnot did not invent the second law of thermodynamics; he PRESUMED it to be true
2) Carnot used the second law of thermodynamics in a mathematical proof of heat engines which is why it is not really called a law but rather a "theorem," "principle" or "rule."
3) The second law of thermodynamics does not focus on entropy but on usable energy, especially when usable energy reaches zero.

Ya' dun perrty good f'r only fourteen words. I've only seen professional-grade random word generators outdo you.

keepit wrote: A good example of someone's formula being smarter than they were.

1. Carnot's theorem was not smarter than he was
2. "Someone" is singular and "they" is plural. There needs to be agreement between those two words ... unless, of course, you are competing with professional-grade random word generators.

keepit wrote: Some here don't know what climate or climate change is. Some do however.

So why don't you know? Are you merely coming clean?


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Sea level varies from place to place in the world - keepit

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
12-02-2020 21:56
keepit
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(1070)
Listen to yourself IBDM. It's just a mass of semantics and not constructive.
12-02-2020 22:46
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote: Listen to yourself IBDM. It's just a mass of semantics ...


Semantics? Yes. This is a message board. Semantics is what I post because I'm not posting random words. I take it you don't quite grasp how message boards work.


keepit wrote: ... and not constructive.

How constructive can I possibly be if I'm not recommending that you just not post?


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Sea level varies from place to place in the world - keepit

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
12-02-2020 23:58
gfm7175Profile picture★★☆☆☆
(313)
keepit wrote:
Listen to yourself IBDM. It's just a mass of semantics and not constructive.

They listen to yous keepit. Yous just didn't like they response.
13-02-2020 00:16
tmiddlesProfile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote:
Carnot invented the 2nd law (entropy) even though he didn't know what entropy was. A good example of someone's formula being smarter than they were.
Some here don't know what climate or climate change is. Some do however.

Good example keepit. I didn't know about Carnot.

I tried to talk about Pierre Provost the first scientist to describe net thermal radiation but as you know these guys ran for the hills at the site of that thread:
https://www.climate-debate.com/forum/max-planck-and-pierre-prevost-on-net-thermal-radiation-and-net-heat-d10-e2793.php

What did IBD say? OH yeah, nothing at all:
IBdaMann wrote:
The race has started. You gate has opened but you won't come out. You've got people outside encouraging you to come on out and start running, but you cling to the back of the stall like you are spooked by something.

And then he gave up instantly, after saying nothing at all:
IBdaMann wrote:
There have been too many responses, all ignored by you, for me to continue.

And ITN?:
Into the Night wrote:
Contextomy fallacy.
Yeah, illuminating.

When you see someone run and hide it's beyond suspicious.
13-02-2020 00:24
gfm7175Profile picture★★☆☆☆
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LIE.

You've been directly responded to about that topic numerous times.
13-02-2020 00:45
tmiddlesProfile picture★★★★★
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gfm7175 wrote:
LIE.

You've been directly responded to about that topic numerous times.
Prove it.
13-02-2020 03:33
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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tmiddles wrote:And then he gave up instantly, after saying nothing at all

When you see someone run and hide it's beyond suspicious.

SZ2, SZ2, ... Subduction Zone all over again.


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Sea level varies from place to place in the world - keepit

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
13-02-2020 03:36
tmiddlesProfile picture★★★★★
(2265)
IBdaMann wrote:
SZ2, SZ2, ... Subduction Zone all over again.
You do realize your post is meaningless to me and most people who read it.

Use a private language in a private place.
13-02-2020 04:08
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
(5955)
tmiddles wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
SZ2, SZ2, ... Subduction Zone all over again.
You do realize your post is meaningless to me ...

How would it be any different if I had posted anything else?


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Sea level varies from place to place in the world - keepit

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
13-02-2020 04:43
tmiddlesProfile picture★★★★★
(2265)
IBdaMann wrote:
tmiddles wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
SZ2, SZ2, ... Subduction Zone all over again.
You do realize your post is meaningless to me ...

How would it be any different if I had posted anything else?
You're abusing the board by posting nonsense. Please refrain from doing so.
13-02-2020 05:07
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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tmiddles wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
tmiddles wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
SZ2, SZ2, ... Subduction Zone all over again.
You do realize your post is meaningless to me ...

How would it be any different if I had posted anything else?
You're abusing the board by posting nonsense. Please refrain from doing so.

You're abusing the board by bullying posters as though you were the moderator. Please refrain from doing so.


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Sea level varies from place to place in the world - keepit

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
13-02-2020 05:20
tmiddlesProfile picture★★★★★
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IBdaMann wrote:...bullying posters ...

Awe IBD do you you feel bullied? I did say please.

I'm sorry if I made you feel threatened in any way. Don't worry you're in a safe place. I can only post my request that you be understandable, I can't force it on you.
13-02-2020 18:13
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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tmiddles wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
tmiddles wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
tmiddles wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
SZ2, SZ2, ... Subduction Zone all over again.
You do realize your post is meaningless to me ...

How would it be any different if I had posted anything else?
You're abusing the board by posting nonsense. Please refrain from doing so.

You're abusing the board by bullying posters as though you were the moderator. Please refrain from doing so.

Awe IBD do you you feel bullied? I did say please.

Good catch. I meant to write "attempting to bully posters." My bad. I did not mean to imply that you were succeeding.


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Sea level varies from place to place in the world - keepit

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
14-02-2020 00:15
gfm7175Profile picture★★☆☆☆
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14-02-2020 00:16
gfm7175Profile picture★★☆☆☆
(313)
tmiddles wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
tmiddles wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
SZ2, SZ2, ... Subduction Zone all over again.
You do realize your post is meaningless to me ...

How would it be any different if I had posted anything else?
You're abusing the board by posting nonsense. Please refrain from doing so.

Prove it.
14-02-2020 00:42
tmiddlesProfile picture★★★★★
(2265)
gfm7175 wrote:
Prove it.

IBdaMann wrote:
SZ2, SZ2, ... Subduction Zone all over again.
This is meaningless to anyone just coming to the board and certainly to me. As such it is just random characters to others, possibly a private language for some. IBD could be posting in German and it would be more useable as communication.
14-02-2020 01:13
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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tmiddles wrote: IBD could be posting in German and it would be more useable as communication.


Darum geht es also? Du willst nur, dass ich auf Deutsch poste? Warum hast du das vorher nicht gesagt?


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Sea level varies from place to place in the world - keepit

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
14-02-2020 01:48
tmiddlesProfile picture★★★★★
(2265)
IBdaMann wrote:Darum ...
You disrespect the board IBD.
14-02-2020 02:20
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
(5955)
tmiddles wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:Darum ...
You disrespect the board IBD.

Sie sprechen immer noch nicht für die Tafel. Mir ist klar, dass du mir nicht glaubst.

Auf der anderen Seite beleidigen Sie die Intelligenz aller.

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Sea level varies from place to place in the world - keepit

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist




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