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By 2080, global warming will make New York City feel like Arkansas


By 2080, global warming will make New York City feel like Arkansas20-02-2019 05:34
Tai Hai Chen
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/02/12/global-warming-climate-change-shift-climates-south/2847860002/

I guess their model is Gore's chart which shows increasing CO2 from 280 ppm to 435 ppm 55% increase causes temperature to increase 6 C. This is because CO2 increase from 180 ppm to 280 ppm 55% increase caused temperature to increase 6 C from ice age to 1800s temperature as measured by Antarctica ice cores.

https://youtu.be/9tkDK2mZlOo
Edited on 20-02-2019 05:39
20-02-2019 10:45
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Is that 6 C increase a total, or above the natural recovery from the Ice Age? Doesn't seem like a whole lot, but then again the core samples come from the coldest part of the planet. Out of curiosity, what was the global average temperature during the ice age? How was it measured, and who recorded it? Pretty impressive, since I'm only aware of stick-figure drawings on cave walls. Wonder if that is where Al Gore got his Hockey-Stick graph...

Why is it presumed that warming from our first ice age, as a species, would be linear, and not logarithmic? Personally, I'm not convinced that CO2 has anything to do with global temperature. Then again, I don't have a Phd (apparently, field of study doesn't matter), nor any vested interest, other than seeing my retirement savings drained away on a scam.
20-02-2019 15:52
Tai Hai Chen
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HarveyH55 wrote:
Is that 6 C increase a total, or above the natural recovery from the Ice Age? Doesn't seem like a whole lot, but then again the core samples come from the coldest part of the planet. Out of curiosity, what was the global average temperature during the ice age? How was it measured, and who recorded it? Pretty impressive, since I'm only aware of stick-figure drawings on cave walls. Wonder if that is where Al Gore got his Hockey-Stick graph...

Why is it presumed that warming from our first ice age, as a species, would be linear, and not logarithmic? Personally, I'm not convinced that CO2 has anything to do with global temperature. Then again, I don't have a Phd (apparently, field of study doesn't matter), nor any vested interest, other than seeing my retirement savings drained away on a scam.


Obviously 6 C increase from 1800s level in order to make NYC the same temperature as Arkansas.
20-02-2019 18:51
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Tai Hai Chen wrote:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/02/12/global-warming-climate-change-shift-climates-south/2847860002/

I guess their model is Gore's chart which shows increasing CO2 from 280 ppm to 435 ppm 55% increase causes temperature to increase 6 C. This is because CO2 increase from 180 ppm to 280 ppm 55% increase caused temperature to increase 6 C from ice age to 1800s temperature as measured by Antarctica ice cores.

https://youtu.be/9tkDK2mZlOo


Ice cores do not indicate the temperature of the Earth.
They don't indicate the global CO2 concentration either. Ice is permeable to CO2.

Al Gore's charts are bogus.


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Edited on 20-02-2019 18:52




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