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06-06-2017 02:04
Wake
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litesong wrote:
His usual noise. He grows ever more violently angry since he cannot get a single thing right. But when you're a doper your brain turns off.
07-06-2017 02:51
litesong
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"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" woofs: His usual noise......

..... & always true. Ah.... "old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" thinks truth is noise. That's why the math of "old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" is wrong.
07-06-2017 04:28
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litesong wrote:


The cocaine is on your nostrils.
08-06-2017 03:58
litesong
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litesong wrote:May 1, 1979 sea ice VOLUME was ~ 32000 cubic kilometers. Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for May 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~ 30,600 cubic kilometers. May 1, 2013 sea ice VOLUME was ~24,100 cubic kilometers, 6500 cubic kilometers less than the May 1 period for the 1980's. Present May 1, 2017 sea ice VOLUME is ~20,700 cubic kilometers, 9900 cubic kilometers less than the May 1 period for the 1980's.
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner bluffing badnight" is silly, uneducated, & doesn't care to be educated, when it blabs that a new ice age has arrived & AGW is nothin' to worra 'bout.


June 1, 1979 Arctic sea ice VOLUME was ~ 30000 cubic kilometers. Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for June 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~29,500 cubic kilometers. Present June 1, 2017 Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~18,000 cubic kilometers, ~ 11,500 cubic kilometers less than the June 1 period for the 1980's. June 1, 2017 Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~ 12,000 cubic kilometers LESS than that of the same date for 1979. The energy to melt such a VOLUME of ice is almost 37 times the annual energy consumption of the U.S.
08-06-2017 04:07
litesong
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"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" woofs: The cocaine is on your nostrils.

Ah.... "old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" is downwind of itself.
Edited on 08-06-2017 04:08
08-06-2017 04:14
Wake
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litesong wrote:


Maybe that cocaine is why you can't make any sense.
08-06-2017 04:37
Wake
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litesong wrote:June 1, 1979 Arctic sea ice VOLUME was ~ 30000 cubic kilometers. Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for June 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~29,500 cubic kilometers. Present June 1, 2017 Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~18,000 cubic kilometers


Most people are smart enough to know that the ice was only MEASURED starting in 1979 and so less ice now than in 1979 means nothing. But to Chief Litebrain it means the sky is falling.
08-06-2017 07:02
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Wake wrote:
litesong wrote:June 1, 1979 Arctic sea ice VOLUME was ~ 30000 cubic kilometers. Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for June 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~29,500 cubic kilometers. Present June 1, 2017 Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~18,000 cubic kilometers


Most people are smart enough to know that the ice was only MEASURED starting in 1979 and so less ice now than in 1979 means nothing. But to Chief Litebrain it means the sky is falling.

The solar TSI has been languid for decades & low for 10+ years(including a 3+ year period of TSI low, setting a 100 year record). Monthly global temperatures have been over the 20th century average for 388+ months. In essence, even monthly cold weather conditions can no longer penetrate the increasing infra-red energy absorbed & redirected back to Earth by GHGs, now stored in Earth's bio-sphere.
To end wake's quote of my data, present Arctic sea ice VOLUME is 11,000+ cubic kilometers less than average 1980's years for Arctic sea ice VOLUME. NOT till present Arctic sea VOLUME returns to the quantities of the 1980's, can AGW denier liar whiners pretend that ice age conditions have returned..... AND it ain't goin' to happen.
08-06-2017 17:50
Wake
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litesong wrote: That it doesn't matter that he is telling us that the ice is at the lowest ever despite only having 50 years of records.


And another one bites the dust. You Indians believe that since you beat Custer you won the war. You kept repeating it to yourselves on the Trail of Tears.
08-06-2017 22:46
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Wake wrote:
litesong wrote: That it doesn't matter that he is telling us that the ice is at the lowest ever despite only having 50 years of records.


And another one bites the dust. You Indians believe that since you beat Custer you won the war. You kept repeating it to yourselves on the Trail of Tears.


The Trail of Tears wasn't a war. It was theft. Why we put the jerk that did it on our $20 bill is beyond me.


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08-06-2017 23:18
Wake
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Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
litesong wrote: That it doesn't matter that he is telling us that the ice is at the lowest ever despite only having 50 years of records.


And another one bites the dust. You Indians believe that since you beat Custer you won the war. You kept repeating it to yourselves on the Trail of Tears.


The Trail of Tears wasn't a war. It was theft. Why we put the jerk that did it on our $20 bill is beyond me.


Apparently you are completely unaware of what happened.
09-06-2017 00:11
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Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
litesong wrote: That it doesn't matter that he is telling us that the ice is at the lowest ever despite only having 50 years of records.


And another one bites the dust. You Indians believe that since you beat Custer you won the war. You kept repeating it to yourselves on the Trail of Tears.


The Trail of Tears wasn't a war. It was theft. Why we put the jerk that did it on our $20 bill is beyond me.


Apparently you are completely unaware of what happened.


I am very aware what happened. Jackson ordered troops to enter indian nations, kill the men that opposed them, and drove the rest off their lands. The refugees had little food or water, lost everything, and headed west. Many died. He then turned around and sold that land for a tidy profit for he and his cronies. He was openly a bigot and a racist and felt the indian didn't deserve to own land. It was the beginning of what later became the indian 'reservations'.

It's really no wonder many tribal nations took a more militant attitude to anyone entering their lands, after they saw what happened to the Cherokee and other tribes.

Do you think you can summarize the history of the indian tribes in one event such as this?


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Edited on 09-06-2017 00:12
09-06-2017 02:41
Wake
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Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
litesong wrote: That it doesn't matter that he is telling us that the ice is at the lowest ever despite only having 50 years of records.


And another one bites the dust. You Indians believe that since you beat Custer you won the war. You kept repeating it to yourselves on the Trail of Tears.


The Trail of Tears wasn't a war. It was theft. Why we put the jerk that did it on our $20 bill is beyond me.


Apparently you are completely unaware of what happened.


I am very aware what happened. Jackson ordered troops to enter indian nations, kill the men that opposed them, and drove the rest off their lands. The refugees had little food or water, lost everything, and headed west. Many died. He then turned around and sold that land for a tidy profit for he and his cronies. He was openly a bigot and a racist and felt the indian didn't deserve to own land. It was the beginning of what later became the indian 'reservations'.

It's really no wonder many tribal nations took a more militant attitude to anyone entering their lands, after they saw what happened to the Cherokee and other tribes.

Do you think you can summarize the history of the indian tribes in one event such as this?


That's what I said - you have absolutely no idea of what happened.
09-06-2017 03:54
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Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Wake wrote:
litesong wrote: That it doesn't matter that he is telling us that the ice is at the lowest ever despite only having 50 years of records.


And another one bites the dust. You Indians believe that since you beat Custer you won the war. You kept repeating it to yourselves on the Trail of Tears.


The Trail of Tears wasn't a war. It was theft. Why we put the jerk that did it on our $20 bill is beyond me.


Apparently you are completely unaware of what happened.


I am very aware what happened. Jackson ordered troops to enter indian nations, kill the men that opposed them, and drove the rest off their lands. The refugees had little food or water, lost everything, and headed west. Many died. He then turned around and sold that land for a tidy profit for he and his cronies. He was openly a bigot and a racist and felt the indian didn't deserve to own land. It was the beginning of what later became the indian 'reservations'.

It's really no wonder many tribal nations took a more militant attitude to anyone entering their lands, after they saw what happened to the Cherokee and other tribes.

Do you think you can summarize the history of the indian tribes in one event such as this?


That's what I said - you have absolutely no idea of what happened.


All right...let's hear your version. Do not use links or quotes.


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Edited on 09-06-2017 03:55
18-06-2017 02:35
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litesong wrote:The solar TSI has been languid for decades & low for 10+ years(including a 3+ year period of TSI low, setting a 100 year record). Monthly global temperatures have been over the 20th century average for 388+ months. In essence, even monthly cold weather conditions can no longer penetrate the increasing infra-red energy absorbed & redirected back to Earth by GHGs, now stored in Earth's bio-sphere.
To end wake's quote of my data, present Arctic sea ice VOLUME is 11,000+ cubic kilometers less than average 1980's years for Arctic sea ice VOLUME. NOT till present Arctic sea VOLUME returns to the quantities of the 1980's, can AGW denier liar whiners pretend that ice age conditions have returned..... AND it ain't goin' to happen.

Three of the years of great Arctic sea ice loss(2012, 2016, 2017) showed wide variations of 1.1+ million square kilometers of sea ice loss during the late May-early June periods. However, at this date of those years, the three are within a fifth of a million square miles of each other.... all nice & cozy.... except 2016 is still nearly 2 million square miles less than the average of the 1980's.
18-06-2017 17:46
Wake
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litesong wrote:And more psychotic reactions
18-06-2017 23:20
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litesong wrote:The solar TSI has been languid for decades & low for 10+ years(including a 3+ year period of TSI low, setting a 100 year record). Monthly global temperatures have been over the 20th century average for 388+ months. In essence, even monthly cold weather conditions can no longer penetrate the increasing infra-red energy absorbed & redirected back to Earth by GHGs, now stored in Earth's bio-sphere.
To end wake's quote of my data, present Arctic sea ice VOLUME is 11,000+ cubic kilometers less than average 1980's years for Arctic sea ice VOLUME. NOT till present Arctic sea VOLUME returns to the quantities of the 1980's, can AGW denier liar whiners pretend that ice age conditions have returned..... AND it ain't goin' to happen.
Three of the years of great Arctic sea ice loss(2012, 2016, 2017) showed wide variations of 1.1+ million square kilometers of sea ice loss during the late May-early June periods. However, at this date of those years, the three are within a fifth of a million square miles of each other.... all nice & cozy.... except 2016 is still nearly 2 million square miles less than the average of the 1980's.
Wake wrote:....more psychotic(sic) reactions

Yes, "old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" believes science is psychotic(sic) reactions.
18-06-2017 23:42
Wake
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litesong wrote:And yet more psychotic reactions.


Loony is as loony does. And you spend all your time "does-ing".
19-06-2017 19:18
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Here is a more distinctive set of charts:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming#/media/File:Global_Temperature_Anomaly.svg

This is the chart distributed by NASA.

And yet the satellite data over the most important period of that chart - 1979 to present (also from NASA) says something ENTIRELY different:

http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/UAH_LT_1979_thru_March_2017_v6.jpg

What I want to know is WHY those jackasses in a studio audience are so willing to laugh instead of listen? Why are the people so adamantly FOR the idea of man-made climate change those who have no scientific training whatsoever?

More importantly you might wish to ask: "What could possibly be behind these things?"

https://www.infowars.com/enviroment-eugenics-quotes/

These are people that have the ears of public officials. I was at a talk given by Dr. Paul Ehrlich and I asked him directly, "Do you understand what you are suggesting?" And he said that he knew EXACTLY what he was suggesting.

As for what brought all this about: http://graduateinstitute.ch/files/live/sites/iheid/files/sites/admininst/shared/doc-professors/luterbacher%20chapter%202%20102.pdf

Reading this paper what you can see is politicians began salivating at the idea of additional power.

Karl Marx wrote in Das Kapital which was essentially a work on economics but it was written from a liberal viewpoint. It pointed out how workers were being exploited. The very thought that company owners could make a profit off of their investments to build and maintain a company was painful to Marx.

Inside this large work was more or less a list of how smart people like himself could save the stupid masses from the exploiters. If he could only have power he could save all these people. What indeed was the case was that any power given to ANYONE will end up in that power being abused as we saw in the USSR and communist China and elsewhere.

Marx couldn't even imagine someone like Henry Ford giving his workers a LARGE raise on the idea that if they were making enough money to pay all their bills and have extra they would buy Ford automobiles. Which is exactly what they did.

But the socialists have not relented simply because socialism has been a failure everywhere it's been tried. We will hear of that marvelous Canadian socialist medical system. We will not hear that Canadians are pouring across the American border to receive medical treatment since serious diseases and conditions have waiting lines so long in Canada that death usually intercedes. Or that many conditions simply aren't treated at all.

So climate change has been nothing more than a strike for power by politicians of both stripes in the USA. Obama ORDERED NOAA to generate a report proving AGW and they acquiesced. It was very easy to do.

Since most of the government owned weather reporting stations were in urban areas all they had to do was not correct for the wild urban growth over the last 150 years. The Urban Heat Island Effect took care of the rest.

Now NOAA and NASA cannot back away from their counterfeited data without suffering the consequences of their lies and the effect it would have on the citizens belief in science in general. So they simply carry on with their lies.
21-06-2017 02:24
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"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" woofs: you spend all your time "does-ing".

Someone with the name "old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" knows what "dozing" is all about.
21-06-2017 02:37
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Since mid-November 2016, Arctic sea ice took a dramatic VOLUME downturn, well below all other years of satellite to date data. Now in mid-June 2017, Arctic sea ice VOLUME has once more joined to date recent years "normal" sea ice & is even tied with levels of 2012. However, as is the recent years normality, Arctic sea ice VOLUME is still 11,000+ cubic kilometers LESS than to date quantities of the 1980's.
Edited on 21-06-2017 02:39
26-06-2017 19:13
litesong
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litesong wrote:Since mid-November 2016, Arctic sea ice took a dramatic VOLUME downturn, well below all other years of satellite to date data. Now in mid-June 2017, Arctic sea ice VOLUME has once more joined to date recent years "normal" sea ice & is even tied with levels of 2012. However, as is the recent years normality, Arctic sea ice VOLUME is still 11,000+ cubic kilometers LESS than to date quantities of the 1980's.

As mentioned several times, the Northeast Pacific ocean has been upwelling cold water for 6 months, making for cold fronts moving onto the Canadian terrains, also cooling the Northwest U.S. However, lots of heat the past week, with Seatac almost 10degrees over its previous yesterday's record. Wide spread 95degF temperatures away from the Salish Sea (Puget Sound) region, but still in "cooler" western Washington. Western Washington Renton went to 99deg. Any other temperature records in the area? Of course, nothing like the 120+ temperatures Death Valley.
One of our cars doesn't have a/c. But I did drive it in yesterday's evening. I'd always heard that putting bigger wheels/tires on a car lowers the mpg. Once I put 2 inch larger wheels/tires/treads on one of our cars AND the mpg did go down, but the car drove wonderfully. But now I can't remember if I adjusted for the odometer error. Anyhow, recently I put some larger diameter/tread wheels/tires on two of our cars & adjusted for the odometer error. I'll need more fill-ups, but mpg may have dropped only slightly. We'll see. One car handles better. The other car has more rear wheel hop(always did), due to the heavier wheel/tire combo. But when it grips, it is more positive than previously.
Edited on 26-06-2017 19:25
01-07-2017 19:24
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litesong wrote: Three of the years of great Arctic sea ice loss(2012, 2016, 2017) showed wide variations of 1.1+ million square kilometers of sea ice loss during the late May-early June periods. However, at this date of those years, the three are within a fifth of a million square miles of each other.... all nice & cozy.... except 2016 is still nearly 2 million square miles less than the average of the 1980's.

Now that about 2 weeks have past, these three years of to date low Arctic sea ice loss are ever closer: not a difference of 1/5th of a million square kilometers, but only 1/14th of a million square kilometers separate these three years.
Yeah..... these three years are ALL ~ 2 million square kilometers LESS than the average year of the 1980's.
04-07-2017 16:54
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litesong wrote:
litesong wrote: Three of the years of great Arctic sea ice loss(2012, 2016, 2017) showed wide variations of 1.1+ million square kilometers of sea ice loss during the late May-early June periods. However, at this date of those years, the three are within a fifth of a million square miles of each other.... all nice & cozy.... except 2016 is still nearly 2 million square miles less than the average of the 1980's.

Now that about 2 weeks have past, these three years of to date low Arctic sea ice loss are ever closer: not a difference of 1/5th of a million square kilometers, but only 1/14th of a million square kilometers separate these three years.
Yeah..... these three years are ALL ~ 2 million square kilometers LESS than the average year of the 1980's.

A few days later AND on this day of American Freedom (first for white, old, moneyed & landed white men & still the correct definition for many racist white guys who ARE necessarily NOT rich), present Arctic sea ices consistently & continually show freedom from constraints of the past. The years 2012, 2016, & 2017 now are less than.... not 1/5th, not 1/14th, but a scrapingly low 1/33rd of 1 million square kilometers apart from each other.
AND THE CLUSTER OF YEARS DECLARING FREEDOM FROM THE PAST shout they are 2 million square kilometers LESS THAN the 1980's past.
04-07-2017 22:47
litesong
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litesong wrote: The years 2012, 2016, & 2017... AND THE CLUSTER OF YEARS DECLARING FREEDOM FROM THE PAST shout they are 2 million square kilometers LESS THAN the 1980's past.

Of course, this present to date July, 2 million(+?) square kilometer gap compared to the to date 1980's average Arctic sea ice square kilometers is greater than the ice gap between the 1980's average & the decade of the first 2000's decade.... even during the Arctic sea ice low in September, when sea ice gap losses are the greatest of the year.
Yeah, yer right..... there is a good chance that before the end of this July, to date July 2017 will have less Arctic sea ice than the average yearly Arctic sea ice low in September of the 1980's.
Yeah, yer right, again. Almost two & a half months of Arctic sea ice freezing has disappeared.
04-07-2017 23:34
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litesong wrote: One of our cars doesn't have a/c. But I did drive it in yesterday's evening. I'd always heard that putting bigger wheels/tires on a car lowers the mpg. Once I put 2 inch larger wheels/tires/treads on one of our cars AND the mpg did go down, but the car drove wonderfully. But now I can't remember if I adjusted for the odometer error. Anyhow, recently I put some larger diameter/tread wheels/tires on two of our cars & adjusted for the odometer error. I'll need more fill-ups, but mpg may have dropped only slightly. We'll see. One car handles better. The other car has more rear wheel hop(always did), due to the heavier wheel/tire combo. But when it grips, it is more positive than previously.

I did NOT make mention that the increased tire sizes that I have added to my cars lately, have been used tires. Now, prime tires are great....but they are expensive.... even the Les Schwab & Discount tires. I latterly discovered that many used tires are available. Careful sifting (local papers, Little Nickle, Craigslist, etc) can find some very good buys of good tires. Many people sell cars, wreck cars, or change wheels & tires, ending up with extra wheels/tires. Purchase of such is a good way to keep these serviceable wheels/tires from degrading in backyards or trash heaps & can even spice up your car's look if you buy less premium cars.
Presently driving with inexpensive but good tires. One (come & get it) tire, I got free from a nice fellow who no longer had a car to put that particular tire on. Expect 5000 to 10,000 miles on that tire.
Of course, people in weather extremes or who drive fast & hard, need to stay with new tires. But still, I have some great tires (four 18 inchers for $20 which should go 10,000+miles, large tires which have reduced my highway rpms by 6%, two sweet alloy 18 inch chrome wheels AND tires that'll go 10-15,000+ miles for $60).
06-07-2017 06:45
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litesong wrote:
litesong wrote:May 1, 1979 sea ice VOLUME was ~ 32000 cubic kilometers. Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for May 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~ 30,600 cubic kilometers. May 1, 2013 sea ice VOLUME was ~24,100 cubic kilometers, 6500 cubic kilometers less than the May 1 period for the 1980's. Present May 1, 2017 sea ice VOLUME is ~20,700 cubic kilometers, 9900 cubic kilometers less than the May 1 period for the 1980's.
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner bluffing badnight" is silly, uneducated, & doesn't care to be educated, when it blabs that a new ice age has arrived & AGW is nothin' to worra 'bout.


June 1, 1979 Arctic sea ice VOLUME was ~ 30000 cubic kilometers. Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for June 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~29,500 cubic kilometers. Present June 1, 2017 Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~18,000 cubic kilometers, ~ 11,500 cubic kilometers less than the June 1 period for the 1980's. June 1, 2017 Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~ 12,000 cubic kilometers LESS than that of the same date for 1979. The energy to melt such a VOLUME of ice is almost 37 times the annual energy consumption of the U.S.

Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for July 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~ 24,700 cubic kilometers. Present July 1, 2017 sea ice VOLUME is ~12,100 cubic kilometers, 12,600 cubic kilometers less than the 1980-89 period for July 1. The excess AGW infra-red energy absorbed by 12,600 cubic kilometers of ice to melt it, is ~ 38+ times the yearly U.S. energy consumption.
06-07-2017 14:45
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Global warming is a real problem of nowadays. Without action, the impacts of climate change catastrophically damage our world. Learn more about the future challenges - http://planetaryproject.com/global_problems/future/analytics/major-future-challenges/
06-07-2017 17:24
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Flill wrote:
Global warming is a real problem of nowadays. Without action, the impacts of climate change catastrophically damage our world. Learn more about the future challenges - http://planetaryproject.com/global_problems/future/analytics/major-future-challenges/


Get your head out of your posterior - AGW is a hoax and always has been.
06-07-2017 17:58
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Flill wrote:
Global warming is a real problem of nowadays. Without action, the impacts of climate change catastrophically damage our world.....


Flill,
Please name one real problem HAPPENING TODAY.
Explain how this problem is the result of a warmer Earth.
If you had control of everyone, what would you do to stop the problem immediately?


Radiation will not penetrate a perfect insulator, thus as I said space is not a perfect insulator.- Swan
06-07-2017 20:50
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Flill wrote:
Global warming is a real problem of nowadays. Without action, the impacts of climate change catastrophically damage our world. Learn more about the future challenges - http://planetaryproject.com/global_problems/future/analytics/major-future-challenges/


Define 'global warming' without using circular arguments, links, or quotes.

What exactly IS 'global warming'?


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08-07-2017 02:14
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litesong wrote:
litesong wrote:
litesong wrote:May 1, 1979 sea ice VOLUME was ~ 32000 cubic kilometers. Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for May 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~ 30,600 cubic kilometers. May 1, 2013 sea ice VOLUME was ~24,100 cubic kilometers, 6500 cubic kilometers less than the May 1 period for the 1980's. Present May 1, 2017 sea ice VOLUME is ~20,700 cubic kilometers, 9900 cubic kilometers less than the May 1 period for the 1980's.
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner bluffing badnight" is silly, uneducated, & doesn't care to be educated, when it blabs that a new ice age has arrived & AGW is nothin' to worra 'bout.


June 1, 1979 Arctic sea ice VOLUME was ~ 30000 cubic kilometers. Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for June 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~29,500 cubic kilometers. Present June 1, 2017 Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~18,000 cubic kilometers, ~ 11,500 cubic kilometers less than the June 1 period for the 1980's. June 1, 2017 Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~ 12,000 cubic kilometers LESS than that of the same date for 1979. The energy to melt such a VOLUME of ice is almost 37 times the annual energy consumption of the U.S.

Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for July 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~ 24,700 cubic kilometers. Present July 1, 2017 sea ice VOLUME is ~12,100 cubic kilometers, 12,600 cubic kilometers less than the 1980-89 period for July 1. The excess AGW infra-red energy absorbed by 12,600 cubic kilometers of ice to melt it, is ~ 38+ times the yearly U.S. energy consumption.

Nice neat graph of Arctic sea ice, not of its square area, BUT of its time dependent VOLUME:
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=95V9E%2bjf&id=4FC0BEEDAF541FE3EDF1A01694FDEE4CCC8A3E34&q=Arctic+Sea+Ice+Volume+Graph+feb+2017&simid=608038143506452087&selectedIndex=9&ajaxhist=0
16-07-2017 00:16
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litesong wrote:
litesong wrote:
litesong wrote:
litesong wrote:May 1, 1979 sea ice VOLUME was ~ 32000 cubic kilometers. Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for May 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~ 30,600 cubic kilometers. May 1, 2013 sea ice VOLUME was ~24,100 cubic kilometers, 6500 cubic kilometers less than the May 1 period for the 1980's. Present May 1, 2017 sea ice VOLUME is ~20,700 cubic kilometers, 9900 cubic kilometers less than the May 1 period for the 1980's.
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner bluffing badnight" is silly, uneducated, & doesn't care to be educated, when it blabs that a new ice age has arrived & AGW is nothin' to worra 'bout.


June 1, 1979 Arctic sea ice VOLUME was ~ 30000 cubic kilometers. Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for June 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~29,500 cubic kilometers. Present June 1, 2017 Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~18,000 cubic kilometers, ~ 11,500 cubic kilometers less than the June 1 period for the 1980's. June 1, 2017 Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~ 12,000 cubic kilometers LESS than that of the same date for 1979. The energy to melt such a VOLUME of ice is almost 37 times the annual energy consumption of the U.S.

Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for July 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~ 24,700 cubic kilometers. Present July 1, 2017 sea ice VOLUME is ~12,100 cubic kilometers, 12,600 cubic kilometers less than the 1980-89 period for July 1. The excess AGW infra-red energy absorbed by 12,600 cubic kilometers of ice to melt it, is ~ 38+ times the yearly U.S. energy consumption.

Nice neat graph of Arctic sea ice, not of its square area, BUT of its time dependent VOLUME:
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=95V9E%2bjf&id=4FC0BEEDAF541FE3EDF1A01694FDEE4CCC8A3E34&q=Arctic+Sea+Ice+Volume+Graph+feb+2017&simid=608038143506452087&selectedIndex=9&ajaxhist=0


http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

It appears that the Arctic ice started out lower than normal but has been melting off at a slower than normal rate.

So Chief litebrains continues to pass off all of the BS possible.
16-07-2017 08:16
litesong
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"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" woofed: It appears that the Arctic ice started out lower than normal but has been melting off at a slower than normal rate.

When all the other AGW denier liar whiners saw the lower solar TSI rates 10+ years ago (& before), they ran up the flag & holleried, "ice age". "old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" is way behind the times, & pretends it can do science by declaring a lessening of the disappearance of Arctic sea ice. Of course, AGW denier liar whiner ice agers are wrong by an about-face. "old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" still can't hit the target, even when it sends a torpedo spread. Along with all that reversal thinking, no AGW denier liar whiner mentions that a thousand thousand thousand thousand ton chunk of ice just undocked from the Antarctic, along with a dozen (more?) other monster ice cubes over 20 years.
Edited on 16-07-2017 08:19
22-07-2017 20:37
litesong
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From another thread, & appropriately posted here:
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With the Larsen C iceberg undocking from Antarctica, the Larsen C Ice Shelf showing disintegration problems, & further disappearance of Arctic sea ice, this article highlights the continued AND INCREASING maneuvers of countries to NOT ONLY claim Arctic rights, but efforts to deny other countries rights from international waters.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/lake-county-news-sun/opinion/ct-lns-cyr-climate-challenges-st-0721-20170720-story.html
It appears that the future Arctic will be exploited, exploded, & badly polluted with "wild-west international politics".
The only question is which countries have the greatest lusting audacity to start the first rapes & destructions to the Arctic, & lack any desire to brake & break away from the total desecration of the Arctic. Once the first wave of countries begin their Arctic pollutions, other countries will pile on.
Edited on 22-07-2017 20:38
25-07-2017 16:00
litesong
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From another thread, & appropriately posted here:
Robert Hunziker, not only highlights the recent Larsen C iceberg undocking from Antarctica, but "the Great Acceleration" of other incredibly sized icebergs, blowing gaskets in Antarctica for the last two+ decades, the 8000 flourishing supraglacial lakes (as copied from Greenland) in East Antartica, the continuing expansion of 7000 permafrost pingos in Siberia(possibly 100,000 in the entire Arctic permafrost), declining global sea ice even in Antarctica & subsea permafrost, raising local atmospheric methane levels.
http://dissidentvoice.org/2017/07/extremely-nasty-climate-wake-up-calls/

The term pingos sound cute, but "alternative pingos" are the development of methane gas deposits, caused by man-made global warming, which explosively(?) release methane, causing sudden vertical shafts in the landscape, often stunningly large. The sudden research into these new "alternative pingos" has raised the conjecture that "alternative pingos" may lie underneath Siberian gas pipelines. Depending how many future "alternative pingos" create under gas pipelines & how often they may erupt, could be a coming additional repair cost to natural gas delivery or worse developments.
http://robinwestenra.blogspot.com/2017/07/a-dire-warning-from-siberia.html
Edited on 25-07-2017 16:53
02-08-2017 03:34
litesong
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From ~ a month ago, what is believed to be two new methane out-gassing craters (alternative pingos) have been detected (witnesses saw seeming explosive results). http://siberiantimes.com/other/others/news/big-bang-and-pillar-of-fire-as-latest-of-two-new-craters-forms-this-week-in-arctic/
04-08-2017 18:38
litesong
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"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" woofs: So Chief litebrains continues to....

"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" continues to be an old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner.

Arctic sea ice VOLUME continues to decrease. https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=95V9E%2bjf&id=4FC0BEEDAF541FE3EDF1A01694FDEE4CCC8A3E34&q=Arctic+Sea+Ice+Volume+Graph+feb+2017&simid=608038143506452087&selectedIndex=9&ajaxhist=0
Average 1980's Arctic sea ice average for August 1, was ~ 17,000 cubic kilometers. Present 2017 to date August 1 Arctic sea ice is ~6800 cubic kilometers, about 40% of the 1980's VOLUME.
14-08-2017 04:54
litesong
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litesong wrote:
From ~ a month ago, what is believed to be two new methane out-gassing craters (alternative pingos) have been detected (witnesses saw seeming explosive results). http://siberiantimes.com/other/others/news/big-bang-and-pillar-of-fire-as-latest-of-two-new-craters-forms-this-week-in-arctic/

Here's an article that predicted we would have more methane craters, as the two newly discovered above:
http://siberiantimes.com/science/casestudy/news/n0415-danger-of-methane-explosions-on-yamal-peninsula-scientists-warn/
Edited on 14-08-2017 04:55
23-08-2017 20:21
litesong
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Returning to this interesting decades long Arctic sea ice VOLUME graph showing monthly Arctic sea ice MONTHLY levels as determined from satellites, plotted as percentage losses from the months of the year 1979.
http://iwantsomeproof.com/extimg/siv_monthly_average_percentage_of_79_polar.png
In its beginning years, 1981 & 1982 appeared that down trending Arctic sea ice VOLUME would be established quickly, with some months in 1981, even below the 80% level. All months of 1979 even seemed to be outliers to the general sea ice levels of early & earlier 1980's. However, 1983 re-established that 1979 wasn't an outlier. Arctic sea ice VOLUME levels, in a few months of 1986, even rose to within 95% of the levels of 1979. To 1992, Arctic sea levels held steady, many months & years holding to ~ 90% of 1979 monthly VOLUME levels.
However, between 1993 to 1996, percentage monthly fluctuations occurred. 1995 monthly VOLUME variations ranged from sub-90% to as low as sub-70%. From 1996 to 2001, monthly Arctic sea ice VOLUME levels became more stable. However, ALL monthly averages were sub-90% & some September months sagged again, below 70%.
From 2002 to 2006, stability tried to be the norm. But, during this period became the last time, ANY monthly VOLUME averages were ever over 80% & Septembers would never see 60% again.
Since 2007, monthly VOLUME percentages compared to 1979 became ever more erratic. Some months of years tried to hold near the mid-70% level (most unsuccessfully). But yearly lows plunged months below 40% (even below 25%), WITHOUT any notice of the 50% level at all.
AGW denier liar whiners made hoopla about 2013-15 returning us to the ice ages. However, ALL YEARLY SEA ICE VOLUME LOW MONTHS in that period, showed Arctic sea ice NOT returned to 50% levels & most below 40%.
Edited on 23-08-2017 20:31
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