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Apocalyptic Hurricane to Make Landfall26-08-2020 19:41
HarveyH55
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https://www.wftv.com/news/laura-now-forecast/Q7ZIXYYEJQUSARGH5VIGEX5AHI/

Long story, forecasting a very bleak future for much of the Gulf coast tomorrow morning. All the catastrophic effects of climate change, slowly churning it's way into the Gulf of Mexico.

GALVESTON, Texas — (AP) — Hurricane Laura rapidly gained strength on Wednesday, forecast to become an "extremely powerful Category 4 hurricane" when it strikes Texas and Louisiana. Officials implored coastal residents to flee before it's too late.
Satellite images show Laura's remarkable intensification into "a formidable hurricane" that can smash homes and sink entire communities with a storm surge reaching as high as 20 feet (6.10 meters), the National Hurricane Center said.


In the largest U.S. evacuation during this pandemic era, more than half a million people were ordered Tuesday to flee from their homes near the Texas-Louisiana state line, including the Texas cities of Beaumont, Galveston and Port Arthur, and the low-lying Calcasieu and Cameron parishes in southwestern Louisiana, where forecasters said storm surge topped by waves could submerge whole communities.


The forward speed is 16 MPH, which is usually sufficient to keep it on track, should make landfall, pretty close to the forecast. Slower moving storms can bounce around in the Gulf, until they get up enough speed. This one is following the tropical storm we had pass through a couple of days ago, so a little of something new. Wouldn't lean on the computer models too heavy. Mostly, I'm interested in how over-hyped this one turns out to be. We are heading into the peak of hurricane season, but that's more in the frequency, not intensity.
26-08-2020 21:14
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★☆
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Damn Global Warming and his war on Climate...

If only we deniers didn't drive sooooo many evil SUV's and trucks around, guzzling up fossil fuels like no tomorrow...

But then again, I contacted CCLA not too long ago and brought to their attention the benefits of solar technology in cars and offered to be a financial supporter of such technology, but they weren't interested in that because they couldn't tax the f*** out of it like they wish to do with carbon emissions...

That correspondence can be found HERE.
Edited on 26-08-2020 21:16
26-08-2020 23:34
duncan61
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Keep us posted Harvey its hard to make sense of the news reports
27-08-2020 01:19
James___
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duncan61 wrote:
Keep us posted Harvey its hard to make sense of the news reports



This is an actual weather report. Also it's wind speeds are what hit Iowa about 2 weeks ago. Am kind of surprised you guys aren't making fun of that as well.

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/2020-08-26-hurricane-laura-forecast-rapid-intensification-texas-louisiana

And here they're saying $12 Billion in damage to be expected after Iowa suffered $10 Billion in damage.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/finance/markets/hurricane-laura-threatens-us-with-2412-billion-in-damage/ar-BB18jKMl
27-08-2020 01:50
HarveyH55
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duncan61 wrote:
Keep us posted Harvey its hard to make sense of the news reports


It's dry here in Florida, so the storm is likely sucking up a lot of moisture. Basically, not us, unless the storm turns east. Last I checked, it wast heading NNW 16 MPH, so turning west, unlikely. My Guess is that Texas, is likely to take the worst of it, mostly rain though. Hopefully, they spent time and money on their storm water management. They had two storms in the recent past, and got caught snoozing, and had some bad flooding issues. They don't get hit by many big storms, so they tend to slack off a little on maintaining their storm water management, money, they figure better spent on other things.

Pretty sure the wind speed isn't accurate, in terms of the traditional measurements. Basically, they fly aircraft though the storm, and find the highest measurements. Traditional measurements were always done outside the storm, and lower wind speeds. Basically, a Cat 3 hurricane, will actually be a weak Cat 2, at best. When they make landfall, they quickly drop another Cat number. Cat 3 and higher, are classified major hurricanes, and they seem to be really stretching lately, to obtain Cat 3 or stronger, on paper anyway.

These storms do tend to defy prediction, specially in the Gulf. I'm just going on past observations. We've been fortunate to have very few storms, with high damage, maybe 2-3 a year. I do pay attention to the storms, even with the media hype, because there is no way to tell, how much hype they have to add. I've never had to evacuate, but I do need to plan a few things in advance. Lot of people buy into the media hype, and go out and buy everything they can carry of store shelves. Makes it hard to do the normal, weekly grocery shopping. Never really could make sense of the panic. If these people do need to evacuate, they can only pack so much stuff into a car. They'll need to leave a lot of stuff behind. Even when we had bad storms go straight through the state, spawned tornadoes, worst of the worst, roads and business were restored in under a week in most cases, in most areas. Generally, 3-4 days, is usually the max, before you can get to food and water.

Storm surge is always over blown. Not really sure what they base it on. Seems like 6 feet is about the average for a monster storm. The warnings are in the 15-20 foot range, but never heard of anything even close. I don't live near the coast, so don't pay that close attention to it.
27-08-2020 16:24
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https://www.wftv.com/news/latest-6-hours/Z22OQRPC3IYVU3ZELKOVBDM53M/

MIAMI — Forecasters say Laura remained a Category 2 hurricane about 6 hours after making landfall.
The National Hurricane Center said the hurricane still packed sustained winds of 100 mph, according to an update Thursday morning. That makes it a Category 2 hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Wind Scale.


In Holly Beach, Louisiana, many residents raised the level of their homes after Hurricane Rita, but there were fears that the houses still were not high enough to withstand up to 20 feet of storm surge, Louisiana Lt. Gov. Billy Nungesser told ABC's "Good Morning America."
"We're hopeful those people got out, but as soon as it's safe for the first responders to get in there, we're hopeful that we don't find people that didn't make it," Nungesser said Thursday.
Dick Gremillion, director for Calcasieu Parish Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness, said his office hasn't been able to start assessing the damage yet because of high winds and the need for daylight.
But he cited the tide gauge further south in Cameron Parish, which appears to have been less than the predicted 20 feet of surge.


Not a whole lot of details on damage, or the storm surge estimate. A Cat 2 is still a powerful storm, but not really much, if you live in an area prone to hurricanes. Doubt there will be the massive destruction predicted yesterday. Mostly it depends on how much rain the storm dumps. Think Marco used up some of the moisture, so don't expected extreme flooding.

Here in Central Florida, no sign of a storm going on. Should stay dry, and sunny for a few days.
27-08-2020 17:09
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It made landfall as a Category 4. Then weakened and became a Category 2.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/27/weather/laura-gulf-coast-weather-forecast-thursday/index.html
27-08-2020 19:03
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gfm7175 wrote:Damn Global Warming and his war on Climate...

Yeah, I'm rethinking my entire position on this whole Global Warming thing. There just might be something to this "extreme weather" line of reasoning.

I ran a few numbers regarding hurricanes making landfall. Last week there was nothing and then this week there was a huge spike. What changed? International flights to and from India resumed, of course. There's really no debate about that.

What's up next for denial? Contrails?

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A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
Edited on 27-08-2020 19:04
27-08-2020 19:45
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★☆
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IBdaMann wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:Damn Global Warming and his war on Climate...

Yeah, I'm rethinking my entire position on this whole Global Warming thing. There just might be something to this "extreme weather" line of reasoning.

I ran a few numbers regarding hurricanes making landfall. Last week there was nothing and then this week there was a huge spike. What changed? International flights to and from India resumed, of course. There's really no debate about that.

What's up next for denial? Contrails?

.

... not just a huge spike, but an UNPRECEDENTED spike as well... That makes it scarier sounding...
27-08-2020 19:53
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gfm7175 wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:Damn Global Warming and his war on Climate...

Yeah, I'm rethinking my entire position on this whole Global Warming thing. There just might be something to this "extreme weather" line of reasoning.

I ran a few numbers regarding hurricanes making landfall. Last week there was nothing and then this week there was a huge spike. What changed? International flights to and from India resumed, of course. There's really no debate about that.

What's up next for denial? Contrails?

.

... not just a huge spike, but an UNPRECEDENTED spike as well... That makes it scarier sounding...

Yes, thank you. I was so overcome with Climate Justice that I completely forgot to meet requirements. It is reassuring to know that there are people like you keeping me out of trouble.

Imagine if DRATS had discovered my error first!

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A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
27-08-2020 20:59
James___
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IBdaMann wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:Damn Global Warming and his war on Climate...

Yeah, I'm rethinking my entire position on this whole Global Warming thing. There just might be something to this "extreme weather" line of reasoning.

I ran a few numbers regarding hurricanes making landfall. Last week there was nothing and then this week there was a huge spike. What changed? International flights to and from India resumed, of course. There's really no debate about that.

What's up next for denial? Contrails?

.



Don't forget to include GasGuzzler and Iowa. Somehow both you and 5717mfg are forgetting about your friend.
27-08-2020 22:03
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★☆
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James___ wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:Damn Global Warming and his war on Climate...

Yeah, I'm rethinking my entire position on this whole Global Warming thing. There just might be something to this "extreme weather" line of reasoning.

I ran a few numbers regarding hurricanes making landfall. Last week there was nothing and then this week there was a huge spike. What changed? International flights to and from India resumed, of course. There's really no debate about that.

What's up next for denial? Contrails?

.



Don't forget to include GasGuzzler and Iowa. Somehow both you and 5717mfg are forgetting about your friend.

He made a post two days ago... I think he's fine.
27-08-2020 23:08
James___
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gfm7175 wrote:
James___ wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:Damn Global Warming and his war on Climate...

Yeah, I'm rethinking my entire position on this whole Global Warming thing. There just might be something to this "extreme weather" line of reasoning.

I ran a few numbers regarding hurricanes making landfall. Last week there was nothing and then this week there was a huge spike. What changed? International flights to and from India resumed, of course. There's really no debate about that.

What's up next for denial? Contrails?

.



Don't forget to include GasGuzzler and Iowa. Somehow both you and 5717mfg are forgetting about your friend.

He made a post two days ago... I think he's fine.


I didn't see it. Please post a link. Thank You
28-08-2020 00:04
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★☆
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James___ wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
James___ wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:Damn Global Warming and his war on Climate...

Yeah, I'm rethinking my entire position on this whole Global Warming thing. There just might be something to this "extreme weather" line of reasoning.

I ran a few numbers regarding hurricanes making landfall. Last week there was nothing and then this week there was a huge spike. What changed? International flights to and from India resumed, of course. There's really no debate about that.

What's up next for denial? Contrails?

.



Don't forget to include GasGuzzler and Iowa. Somehow both you and 5717mfg are forgetting about your friend.

He made a post two days ago... I think he's fine.


I didn't see it. Please post a link. Thank You


https://www.climate-debate.com/forum/septic-tanks-and-water-pollution-d9-e3258-s120.php#post_61227

No cracks in my driveway or garage slab. 17 years old. It has been exposed to -40F up 105F, frost around 50 inches, and a 7,000lb truck parked on it every day. Guess my concrete guys did something right.
28-08-2020 00:24
James___
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gfm7175 wrote:
James___ wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
James___ wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:Damn Global Warming and his war on Climate...

Yeah, I'm rethinking my entire position on this whole Global Warming thing. There just might be something to this "extreme weather" line of reasoning.

I ran a few numbers regarding hurricanes making landfall. Last week there was nothing and then this week there was a huge spike. What changed? International flights to and from India resumed, of course. There's really no debate about that.
https://www.climate-debate.com/forum/post.php?action=edit&forum_id=6&thread_id=3293&post_id=61340
What's up next for denial? Contrails?

.



Don't forget to include GasGuzzler and Iowa. Somehow both you and 5717mfg are forgetting about your friend.

He made a post two days ago... I think he's fine.


I didn't see it. Please post a link. Thank You


https://www.climate-debate.com/forum/septic-tanks-and-water-pollution-d9-e3258-s120.php#post_61227

No cracks in my driveway or garage slab. 17 years old. It has been exposed to -40F up 105F, frost around 50 inches, and a 7,000lb truck parked on it every day. Guess my concrete guys did something right.



And no mention of a storm passing through Iowa. I guess the storm didn't happen. After all, GasGuzzler was our "witness" in Iowa. And as he "said", nothing happened to anyone he knows. He is concerned however about concrete.
And gfm7175, from now on, you, ITN, IBDM, Harvey55 have no voice. I will only listen to GasGuzzler. And as he said, no damage to any concrete in Iowa. No foundations and no property have been damaged in Iowa.
And I accept your word GMF, no problem anywhere. And if Iowa receives any federal disaster relief funds, it proves that you and your friends are lying. And since you are a Christian GMF, there is no Jesus.
And you are at the same time saying Pilate adhered to the law as you are doing.
Storm damage is not an act of God because there is no God. Your words and you are witness. We can't prove a storm or an "Act of God" moved through Iowa.
Just no proof so no one in Iowa should receive any assistance for damage they allowed for. Yours and Harvey's words. They can work and they can clean up their own mess unless they say an "Act of God" caused it.
Your choice Mr. Christian.
And please quote scripture. We'll have a Hell of a good time together. And no scripture, then say you're an atheist. Even Lucifer knows the Bible because his father wrote it.

Edited on 28-08-2020 00:45
28-08-2020 02:09
HarveyH55
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https://www.wftv.com/news/trending/hurricane-laura-live-updates-catastrophic-category-4-storm-nears-landfall-along-louisiana-coast/7WNKQ56LCFAQTJDN4TNX5AQW5U/


Update 5:12 p.m. EDT Aug. 27: Tropical Storm Laura weakened further Thursday afternoon but continued to dump rains and cause heavy winds as the storm spread into Arkansas.
In its 5 p.m. EDT advisory, the National Hurricane Center said Laura had maximum sustained winds and was located about 130 miles south-southwest of Little Rock, Arkansas, moving north-northeast at 15 mph.
More than 600,000 homes and businesses in Louisiana were without power, The Advocate reported. A riverboat casino boat was jostled loose and got wedged under the Lake Charles bridge on Interstate 10, the newspaper reported. The highway will require inspections before the highway reopens.
Among the problems is a riverboat casino that was jostled loose and got wedged under the Lake Charles bridge on Interstate 10, requiring inspections before the interstate reopens. Plus, more than 600,000 homes and businesses without power.


Guess Louisiana should have relied on solar, or any 'green energy' scheme... Least, they have those gas powered, Home Depot generators to get them by for a while...

Really haven't seen any storm surge number yet, other than the foretasted 20 feet high, and 40 miles inland crap. Good news is the Laura continues to weaken, probably won't even be a tropical storm, by the time it reaches Kentucky (and it's extra greasy fried chicken).

Power outages are common, and usually most is restored in a day or two, usually just need to reset a manual breaker on ever utility pole, after a quick inspection for damage, or downed limbs bridging.
28-08-2020 02:29
James___
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HarveyH55 wrote:
https://www.wftv.com/news/trending/hurricane-laura-live-updates-catastrophic-category-4-storm-nears-landfall-along-louisiana-coast/7WNKQ56LCFAQTJDN4TNX5AQW5U/


Update 5:12 p.m. EDT Aug. 27: Tropical Storm Laura weakened further Thursday afternoon but continued to dump rains and cause heavy winds as the storm spread into Arkansas.
In its 5 p.m. EDT advisory, the National Hurricane Center said Laura had maximum sustained winds and was located about 130 miles south-southwest of Little Rock, Arkansas, moving north-northeast at 15 mph.
More than 600,000 homes and businesses in Louisiana were without power, The Advocate reported. A riverboat casino boat was jostled loose and got wedged under the Lake Charles bridge on Interstate 10, the newspaper reported. The highway will require inspections before the highway reopens.
Among the problems is a riverboat casino that was jostled loose and got wedged under the Lake Charles bridge on Interstate 10, requiring inspections before the interstate reopens. Plus, more than 600,000 homes and businesses without power.


Guess Louisiana should have relied on solar, or any 'green energy' scheme... Least, they have those gas powered, Home Depot generators to get them by for a while...

Really haven't seen any storm surge number yet, other than the foretasted 20 feet high, and 40 miles inland crap. Good news is the Laura continues to weaken, probably won't even be a tropical storm, by the time it reaches Kentucky (and it's extra greasy fried chicken).

Power outages are common, and usually most is restored in a day or two, usually just need to reset a manual breaker on ever utility pole, after a quick inspection for damage, or downed limbs bridging.



What about Iowa? Did they have a storm surge? And it was a typical summer storm, right? This should be included in your posts about how and why storms are trivial.
28-08-2020 02:44
HarveyH55
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James___ wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
https://www.wftv.com/news/trending/hurricane-laura-live-updates-catastrophic-category-4-storm-nears-landfall-along-louisiana-coast/7WNKQ56LCFAQTJDN4TNX5AQW5U/


Update 5:12 p.m. EDT Aug. 27: Tropical Storm Laura weakened further Thursday afternoon but continued to dump rains and cause heavy winds as the storm spread into Arkansas.
In its 5 p.m. EDT advisory, the National Hurricane Center said Laura had maximum sustained winds and was located about 130 miles south-southwest of Little Rock, Arkansas, moving north-northeast at 15 mph.
More than 600,000 homes and businesses in Louisiana were without power, The Advocate reported. A riverboat casino boat was jostled loose and got wedged under the Lake Charles bridge on Interstate 10, the newspaper reported. The highway will require inspections before the highway reopens.
Among the problems is a riverboat casino that was jostled loose and got wedged under the Lake Charles bridge on Interstate 10, requiring inspections before the interstate reopens. Plus, more than 600,000 homes and businesses without power.


Guess Louisiana should have relied on solar, or any 'green energy' scheme... Least, they have those gas powered, Home Depot generators to get them by for a while...

Really haven't seen any storm surge number yet, other than the foretasted 20 feet high, and 40 miles inland crap. Good news is the Laura continues to weaken, probably won't even be a tropical storm, by the time it reaches Kentucky (and it's extra greasy fried chicken).

Power outages are common, and usually most is restored in a day or two, usually just need to reset a manual breaker on ever utility pole, after a quick inspection for damage, or downed limbs bridging.



What about Iowa? Did they have a storm surge? And it was a typical summer storm, right? This should be included in your posts about how and why storms are trivial.


Why Iowa? They aren't even in the forecaster path, like Kentucky. You geography is a little weak, maybe you should ease up on that cheap-ass, nasty, Kentucky corn liquor, and hit the books. Only coastal states are effected by storm surge, which usually only runs inland a mile or two, if there is a river or canal near. Nothing really happens in Iowa. Their local new is is a something about farmer Brown's best milking cow scratching her leg on the barbed wire, but expected to recover.
28-08-2020 03:54
James___
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HarveyH55 wrote:
James___ wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
https://www.wftv.com/news/trending/hurricane-laura-live-updates-catastrophic-category-4-storm-nears-landfall-along-louisiana-coast/7WNKQ56LCFAQTJDN4TNX5AQW5U/


Update 5:12 p.m. EDT Aug. 27: Tropical Storm Laura weakened further Thursday afternoon but continued to dump rains and cause heavy winds as the storm spread into Arkansas.
In its 5 p.m. EDT advisory, the National Hurricane Center said Laura had maximum sustained winds and was located about 130 miles south-southwest of Little Rock, Arkansas, moving north-northeast at 15 mph.
More than 600,000 homes and businesses in Louisiana were without power, The Advocate reported. A riverboat casino boat was jostled loose and got wedged under the Lake Charles bridge on Interstate 10, the newspaper reported. The highway will require inspections before the highway reopens.
Among the problems is a riverboat casino that was jostled loose and got wedged under the Lake Charles bridge on Interstate 10, requiring inspections before the interstate reopens. Plus, more than 600,000 homes and businesses without power.


Guess Louisiana should have relied on solar, or any 'green energy' scheme... Least, they have those gas powered, Home Depot generators to get them by for a while...

Really haven't seen any storm surge number yet, other than the foretasted 20 feet high, and 40 miles inland crap. Good news is the Laura continues to weaken, probably won't even be a tropical storm, by the time it reaches Kentucky (and it's extra greasy fried chicken).

Power outages are common, and usually most is restored in a day or two, usually just need to reset a manual breaker on ever utility pole, after a quick inspection for damage, or downed limbs bridging.



What about Iowa? Did they have a storm surge? And it was a typical summer storm, right? This should be included in your posts about how and why storms are trivial.


Why Iowa? They aren't even in the forecaster path, like Kentucky. You geography is a little weak, maybe you should ease up on that cheap-ass, nasty, Kentucky corn liquor, and hit the books. Only coastal states are effected by storm surge, which usually only runs inland a mile or two, if there is a river or canal near. Nothing really happens in Iowa. Their local new is is a something about farmer Brown's best milking cow scratching her leg on the barbed wire, but expected to recover.



This is sad harvey55. With your post, Iowa should not be requesting any disaster relief funds. Yet you'll say that Iowa suffered a disaster.
It's like you got laid. Your mother laid an egg. Thus you were laid. It's a shame that her "egg" died when she "laid" it.
That is your argument. Your argument has been accepted and it is acknowledged that you were not a "live" birth.
28-08-2020 04:04
HarveyH55
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James___ wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
James___ wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
https://www.wftv.com/news/trending/hurricane-laura-live-updates-catastrophic-category-4-storm-nears-landfall-along-louisiana-coast/7WNKQ56LCFAQTJDN4TNX5AQW5U/


Update 5:12 p.m. EDT Aug. 27: Tropical Storm Laura weakened further Thursday afternoon but continued to dump rains and cause heavy winds as the storm spread into Arkansas.
In its 5 p.m. EDT advisory, the National Hurricane Center said Laura had maximum sustained winds and was located about 130 miles south-southwest of Little Rock, Arkansas, moving north-northeast at 15 mph.
More than 600,000 homes and businesses in Louisiana were without power, The Advocate reported. A riverboat casino boat was jostled loose and got wedged under the Lake Charles bridge on Interstate 10, the newspaper reported. The highway will require inspections before the highway reopens.
Among the problems is a riverboat casino that was jostled loose and got wedged under the Lake Charles bridge on Interstate 10, requiring inspections before the interstate reopens. Plus, more than 600,000 homes and businesses without power.


Guess Louisiana should have relied on solar, or any 'green energy' scheme... Least, they have those gas powered, Home Depot generators to get them by for a while...

Really haven't seen any storm surge number yet, other than the foretasted 20 feet high, and 40 miles inland crap. Good news is the Laura continues to weaken, probably won't even be a tropical storm, by the time it reaches Kentucky (and it's extra greasy fried chicken).

Power outages are common, and usually most is restored in a day or two, usually just need to reset a manual breaker on ever utility pole, after a quick inspection for damage, or downed limbs bridging.



What about Iowa? Did they have a storm surge? And it was a typical summer storm, right? This should be included in your posts about how and why storms are trivial.


Why Iowa? They aren't even in the forecaster path, like Kentucky. You geography is a little weak, maybe you should ease up on that cheap-ass, nasty, Kentucky corn liquor, and hit the books. Only coastal states are effected by storm surge, which usually only runs inland a mile or two, if there is a river or canal near. Nothing really happens in Iowa. Their local new is is a something about farmer Brown's best milking cow scratching her leg on the barbed wire, but expected to recover.



This is sad harvey55. With your post, Iowa should not be requesting any disaster relief funds. Yet you'll say that Iowa suffered a disaster.
It's like you got laid. Your mother laid an egg. Thus you were laid. It's a shame that her "egg" died when she "laid" it.
That is your argument. Your argument has been accepted and it is acknowledged that you were not a "live" birth.


Far as I know there is no storm in Iowa, no rioting and looting, no emergency, to request funds. What the hell are you talking about? Sounds like Drunken Sailor talk, and nothing more. You best sober up enough, to get to the liquor store, and stock up. Tropical Storm Laura is heading your way...
28-08-2020 04:29
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HarveyH55 wrote:
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Far as I know there is no storm in Iowa, no rioting and looting, no emergency, to request funds. What the hell are you talking about? Sounds like Drunken Sailor talk, and nothing more. You best sober up enough, to get to the liquor store, and stock up. Tropical Storm Laura is heading your way...



This is sad Harvey55. An estimated $10 Billion in losses caused by storm damage and you say nothing happened.
As for Tropical Storm Laura, I am handicapped. It's passing through Kentucky won't mean much if anything to me. I can't go out for a 10K run because my doctors want me at home resting.
It's about lowering your tax rates. I mean if I were healthy,could work and go for a run, your taxes might increase. And we don't want that, do we?
So you see Harvey55, if I stay handicapped and don't work, I am protecting you from the taxes I might pay if I am healthy.

Edited on 28-08-2020 04:32
28-08-2020 04:42
HarveyH55
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James___ wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
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Far as I know there is no storm in Iowa, no rioting and looting, no emergency, to request funds. What the hell are you talking about? Sounds like Drunken Sailor talk, and nothing more. You best sober up enough, to get to the liquor store, and stock up. Tropical Storm Laura is heading your way...



This is sad Harvey55. An estimated $10 Billion in losses caused by storm damage and you say nothing happened.
As for Tropical Storm Laura, I am handicapped. It's passing through Kentucky won't mean much if anything to me. I can't go out for a 10K run because my doctors want me at home resting.
It's about lowering your tax rates. I mean if I were healthy,could work and go for a run, your taxes might increase. And we don't want that, do we?
So you see Harvey55, if I stay handicapped and don't work, I am protecting you from the taxes I might pay if I am healthy.


So drinking is a handicap, and a couple months of AA meetings, you could get a job?
29-08-2020 17:03
HarveyH55
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https://www.wftv.com/news/science/wobble-luck/NBRARJBWXGPKM6XW4LSM22EL6I/

What a lot of back-walking crap...

ust before striking Louisiana, Laura wobbled. It wasn't much, maybe 15 miles (24 kilometers) for a Category 4 storm that was nearly the width of two states. But it was enough to move the worst of the storm surge east of Lake Charles and into a far less populated area.


!5 miles don't mean squat in terms of the immense size of a hurricane. These storms extend 150-250 miles wide. The eye wall isn't the most damaging. Surprisingly, as the eye passes directly over you, it gets really calm, the sun comes out, almost seems like the storm is over, if you aren't paying attention. Walked my dog for 20 minutes, in 2004, during such an event. Could have stayed out closer to an hour, didn't know, and didn't want to press my luck. I just knew I should have 30-40 minutes. The eye is about 50 miles wide...

"On the TV, the picture kept getting worse and worse. They said it was going to be 9 feet and above. It was freaking me out so much," Sylvester said Friday. "I didn't want to be stuck in my attic with no way to get out."
Her home was right in the "red zone" of 9 feet (2.7 meters) of flooding, but "it didn't happen," she said.
She came home to some lost shingles and downed trees. There was no water damage.



Before the storm arrived, the hurricane center warned of up to 20 feet (6 meters) of storm surge, and Rhome said it was in that ballpark.
Storm surge warnings and estimates represent the most reasonable bad scenario, or the worst 10% of the thousands of calculations meteorologists make, Rhome said.


Obviously didn't get close to the 9 feet level. They never actually said what they measured. Probably would believe them anyway, since you can tell by coastal damage to structures.

It's a long article, but you can see why I don't buy the hype on these storms anymore. These storms are bad enough, even if accurately reported. All the extra hype, isn't necessary.
29-08-2020 22:16
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HarveyH55 wrote:
Far as I know there is no storm in Iowa, no rioting and looting, no emergency, to request funds. What the hell are you talking about? Sounds like Drunken Sailor talk, and nothing more. You best sober up enough, to get to the liquor store, and stock up. Tropical Storm Laura is heading your way...


Actually Iowa and Illinois got popped pretty good. We were hit on August 10th with a type of storm known as a derecho. These are not that uncommon, happening about once every couple years. The difference with this storm was that it was extremely strong and it hit Cedar Rapids, which hasn't taken a direct hit in like this in over a century or more. This is a river valley city with thousands of huge old Oaks and Maple trees. It is estimated that about half of the total tree canopy is gone.

Highest measured winds were 126, but a radio transmission tower rated for 130mph went down. National Weather Service is estimating 140 peak gusts. Wasn't just a couple gusts like you'd find common with a Midwest storm. It was 70mph+ for a solid 40 minutes, with higher gusts throughout the storm. I can tell you it's an absolute mess over here. 3 weeks later power is still not restored to all the residents. We had linemen crews in here from all over the country. Some said Joplin was cake compared to our mess.

I think our Gov requested 4 or 5 billion federal aid. A big part of that went to power line infrastructure as much of it was destroyed.

I did go golfing the other day on my favorite course, and a few of those par 3s are playing much easier now with some trees missing.



All the time the base and surface are at equal temperature as the equilibrium graduates to establish the temperature development--Pete Rogers
30-08-2020 00:09
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HarveyH55 wrote:
James___ wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
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Far as I know there is no storm in Iowa, no rioting and looting, no emergency, to request funds. What the hell are you talking about? Sounds like Drunken Sailor talk, and nothing more. You best sober up enough, to get to the liquor store, and stock up. Tropical Storm Laura is heading your way...



This is sad Harvey55. An estimated $10 Billion in losses caused by storm damage and you say nothing happened.
As for Tropical Storm Laura, I am handicapped. It's passing through Kentucky won't mean much if anything to me. I can't go out for a 10K run because my doctors want me at home resting.
It's about lowering your tax rates. I mean if I were healthy,could work and go for a run, your taxes might increase. And we don't want that, do we?
So you see Harvey55, if I stay handicapped and don't work, I am protecting you from the taxes I might pay if I am healthy.


So drinking is a handicap, and a couple months of AA meetings, you could get a job?



One thing I have become aware of is that Americans don't care for problem solving. They're afraid it might require something of them. You know, everything is fine just the way it is.
While my father was from Norway and was in the Merchant Marines, I mentioned to him that while serving in the Navy, we spent a lot of time doing maintenance and keeping things working.
In our country, we need to understand what supports our way of life if we like what we have. That's as a country.
And if you consider poor resource management, not properly understanding climate change and how trade adversely affects the US economy, we're on a sinking ship.
Then again Rome fell and became Italy.
30-08-2020 00:30
HarveyH55
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GasGuzzler wrote:
HarveyH55 wrote:
Far as I know there is no storm in Iowa, no rioting and looting, no emergency, to request funds. What the hell are you talking about? Sounds like Drunken Sailor talk, and nothing more. You best sober up enough, to get to the liquor store, and stock up. Tropical Storm Laura is heading your way...


Actually Iowa and Illinois got popped pretty good. We were hit on August 10th with a type of storm known as a derecho. These are not that uncommon, happening about once every couple years. The difference with this storm was that it was extremely strong and it hit Cedar Rapids, which hasn't taken a direct hit in like this in over a century or more. This is a river valley city with thousands of huge old Oaks and Maple trees. It is estimated that about half of the total tree canopy is gone.

Highest measured winds were 126, but a radio transmission tower rated for 130mph went down. National Weather Service is estimating 140 peak gusts. Wasn't just a couple gusts like you'd find common with a Midwest storm. It was 70mph+ for a solid 40 minutes, with higher gusts throughout the storm. I can tell you it's an absolute mess over here. 3 weeks later power is still not restored to all the residents. We had linemen crews in here from all over the country. Some said Joplin was cake compared to our mess.

I think our Gov requested 4 or 5 billion federal aid. A big part of that went to power line infrastructure as much of it was destroyed.

I did go golfing the other day on my favorite course, and a few of those par 3s are playing much easier now with some trees missing.


70 MPH winds are strong tropical storm winds. 40 minutes ain't nothing down here during a hurricane. The storms cover a lot of ground, and takes all day to pass. The stronger gusts are closer in toward the eye wall, but the outer bands are still tropical storm strength, and stronger. The eye could be over 100 miles away, and you still get hit pretty hard by the wind and rain.

The bummer up north, is that they rarely get these kinds of storms, so the don't waste time and money. We get hit, pretty much every year, by at least a couple tropical storms. Even our normal afternoon thunderstorms can get severe for some areas. We never really know where the sea breeze will collide, though they are getting better a gauging the severity, before it happens. Most everything is built to stand a Cat 3 hurricane, minimum. Most people don't replace stuff, that can't hold up to a tropical storm.

Nature sucks at times, but it keep life interesting...
30-08-2020 19:35
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James wrote:
I think "God" did a pretty good job of Iowa, eh? Over 14 million of 36 million acres levelled. He sure as heck wiped their floor. And now people like GasGuzzler are asking for your hard earned tax dollars. You can say "NO" Harvey. Iowans can work for their money, right?
Just one question. Why do you guys make this so easy?


Yup, God sent the Norwegian Jet Stream over to Iowa for a few hours. It was impressive!

Hey james, I didn't ask anyone for any money, dumbass.
30-08-2020 22:11
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James lives in a state of rainbow flags, and unicorns. Things it's the federal responsibility, to make everything 'right' in the world. Just doesn't get that we have never controlled the forces of nature, and never will. We barely have the capacity, to get a little forewarning, occasionally.

Guess the price of corn liquor is going up this year... No big deal, never touch the stuff. My Ford Explorer though, guzzles that crap, about 16 gallons a week, about 10% by volume.




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