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01-01-2020 20:05
Xadoman
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Has anyone noticed that right now most interactions with business or govt involve a person at the other end that is interacting with a computer.
Guess what - that person you are interacting with will do what the computer tells them to do every time. That person at the other end of the conversation won't think for them self. These computers are in charge and it's getting worse.
Watch out.


Yes I do. I would not be suprised if we are used by a AI as biorobots working for it to keep the network going. The only problem it has is a future depletion problem of coal, oil etc that could end its existence and therefore I would not be suprised if in the nearest future we hear about the breakthrough in fusion energy. That moment we hear about it I am sure we a ruled by a AI.
01-01-2020 20:10
keepit
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Whoa Xadoman, that's way above my pay grade.
01-01-2020 20:12
keepit
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Thanks for the info James.
01-01-2020 20:30
James___
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keepit wrote:
Thanks for the info James.


Your Welcome.
01-01-2020 23:33
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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James___ wrote:
keepit wrote:
The thing with AI is that the computers are doing more thinking than we are.
If they could tell us when the Ross Ice Shelf was going to crack off that would be helpful. The Ross is holding back a huge amount of glacier in antarctica from sliding into the ocean, enough to raise the sea level 10 feet everywhere.


It would need to have a volume of 264,583 cubic miles.

Argument from randU fallacy. You are making up numbers again.
James___ wrote:
Antarctica has a surface area of 5,410,000 square miles. That means that Antarctica would need lose an amount of ice equal to 258 feet in depth across it's entire surface.
The information I found states that the Ross Ice Shelf is comparable in size to Spain and is about 0.62 miles deep. If so then it's volume is about 121,172 cubic miles. That comes out as about 4.6 feet. Isn't math fun

No math here...move along...move along...
James___ wrote:
They say 40 ft if it slides into the ocean.
The Ross Ice shelf is floating.
James___ wrote:
There's little we can do to stop Mother Nature.
Why would you want to?
James___ wrote:
And if the Ross ice shelf breaks loose, this doesn't mean that other ice is going to melt as well and flow into the ocean.
...deleted irrelevant material...

True. Especially since it breaks loose and refreezes each year.


The Parrot Killer
Edited on 01-01-2020 23:34
02-01-2020 01:27
James___
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Into the Night wrote:
James___ wrote:
keepit wrote:
The thing with AI is that the computers are doing more thinking than we are.
If they could tell us when the Ross Ice Shelf was going to crack off that would be helpful. The Ross is holding back a huge amount of glacier in antarctica from sliding into the ocean, enough to raise the sea level 10 feet everywhere.


It would need to have a volume of 264,583 cubic miles.

Argument from randU fallacy. You are making up numbers again.
James___ wrote:
Antarctica has a surface area of 5,410,000 square miles. That means that Antarctica would need lose an amount of ice equal to 258 feet in depth across it's entire surface.
The information I found states that the Ross Ice Shelf is comparable in size to Spain and is about 0.62 miles deep. If so then it's volume is about 121,172 cubic miles. That comes out as about 4.6 feet. Isn't math fun

No math here...move along...move along...
James___ wrote:
They say 40 ft if it slides into the ocean.
The Ross Ice shelf is floating.
James___ wrote:
There's little we can do to stop Mother Nature.
Why would you want to?
James___ wrote:
And if the Ross ice shelf breaks loose, this doesn't mean that other ice is going to melt as well and flow into the ocean.
...deleted irrelevant material...

True. Especially since it breaks loose and refreezes each year.



Счто? По Английски пожалуйста! We can stop Mother Nature. It's called deforestation and polluting our oceans and streams. And we're doing really good right now.
Whatta ya mean you don't like math. You remind me a lot of my American brother. That's a compliment
02-01-2020 03:19
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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James___ wrote:

James___ wrote:
It would need to have a volume of 264,583 cubic miles.


Whatta ya mean you don't like math. You remind me a lot of my American brother. That's a compliment


James__, as general heuristic, I don't do number-crunching ... but I'll do this one for you.

The earth's radius is 20,924,640 feet at the equator, establishing an upper limit.
The earth's radius is 20,924,640 feet at the poles, establishing a lower limit.

The volume of water required to raise the ocean 10 feet in each case is

[ 4/3 * pi * Radius+10feet^3 - 4/3 * pi * Radius^3 ] * 71% (percentage of ocean)

Ergo:

71% * pi * 4/3 * [Radius+10feet^3 - Radius^3] cubic feet
2.94 * [ (Radius+10)^3 - (Radius)^3 ] cubic feet

Upper Limit: 2.94 * [ 20924650^3 - 20924640^3 ] cubic feet
Lower Limit: 2.94 * [ 20856010^3 - 20856000^3 ] cubic feet

Upper Limit: 2.94 * [ 9.1617E+21 - 9.16166E+21 ] cubic feet
Lower Limit: 2.94 * [ 9.0718E+21 - 9.07179E+21 ] cubic feet

Upper Limit: 2.94 * [ 1.31352E+16 ] cubic feet
Lower Limit: 2.94 * [ 1.30492E+16 ] cubic feet

Upper Limit: 2.94 * 89235.09378 = 262351.1757 cubic miles
Lower Limit: 2.94 * 88650.61069 = 260632.7954 cubic miles

Your estimate of 264,583 cubic miles seems to exceed the upper limit ... but not by much. I think your number is OK to throw around, but I would recommend adjusting it to within the above limits first.

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02-01-2020 06:20
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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James___ wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
James___ wrote:
keepit wrote:
The thing with AI is that the computers are doing more thinking than we are.
If they could tell us when the Ross Ice Shelf was going to crack off that would be helpful. The Ross is holding back a huge amount of glacier in antarctica from sliding into the ocean, enough to raise the sea level 10 feet everywhere.


It would need to have a volume of 264,583 cubic miles.

Argument from randU fallacy. You are making up numbers again.
James___ wrote:
Antarctica has a surface area of 5,410,000 square miles. That means that Antarctica would need lose an amount of ice equal to 258 feet in depth across it's entire surface.
The information I found states that the Ross Ice Shelf is comparable in size to Spain and is about 0.62 miles deep. If so then it's volume is about 121,172 cubic miles. That comes out as about 4.6 feet. Isn't math fun

No math here...move along...move along...
James___ wrote:
They say 40 ft if it slides into the ocean.
The Ross Ice shelf is floating.
James___ wrote:
There's little we can do to stop Mother Nature.
Why would you want to?
James___ wrote:
And if the Ross ice shelf breaks loose, this doesn't mean that other ice is going to melt as well and flow into the ocean.
...deleted irrelevant material...

True. Especially since it breaks loose and refreezes each year.



Счто? По Английски пожалуйста! We can stop Mother Nature. It's called deforestation and polluting our oceans and streams. And we're doing really good right now.
Whatta ya mean you don't like math. You remind me a lot of my American brother. That's a compliment

RDCF. I never said I don't like math. You weren't using any math.


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