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Action that we all should take urgently!09-10-2020 01:10
Nemohawk
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We need to stop believing that excess is successful, and ridicule people who believe this is how to get adoration and positive affirmation. Taking what you need and nothing more is the socially responsible and fashionable way to live now and this needs to be expressed by all that want the human race to survive. We all need to work together regardless of colour, country, religion or any other differences we have that are inconsequential to survival of a civilised society dedicated to providing a healthy environment for all species and life on this planet. As individuals we can stop buying things we really don't need, especially from foreign countries. Buy locally produced food as much as possible. Stop using electric, gas, diesel, petrol or anything you burn as much as possible. Don't expect the government to save you, democratic society is about creating your own decisions and being considerate of you fellow man. Doing things just for the fun, because we have the money or time and desire attention, for the excessive anti-social behaviour promoted needs to be shameful. Just don't buy into it!!
09-10-2020 03:50
GasGuzzlerProfile picture★★★★☆
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Nemoturd wrote:
democratic society is about creating your own decisions and being considerate of you fellow man.


Nemoturd wrote:
We need to....ridicule people who believe this is how to get adoration and positive affirmation.


Nemoturd wrote:
Doing things just for the fun, because we have the money or time and desire attention, for the excessive anti-social behaviour promoted needs to be shameful.


So you will be considerate of me (your fellow man) as long as I live my life as YOU see fit? Who the hell are you?

What's wrong with burning fuel anyway??
09-10-2020 03:52
HarveyH55
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Nemohawk wrote:
We need to stop believing that excess is successful, and ridicule people who believe this is how to get adoration and positive affirmation. Taking what you need and nothing more is the socially responsible and fashionable way to live now and this needs to be expressed by all that want the human race to survive. We all need to work together regardless of colour, country, religion or any other differences we have that are inconsequential to survival of a civilised society dedicated to providing a healthy environment for all species and life on this planet. As individuals we can stop buying things we really don't need, especially from foreign countries. Buy locally produced food as much as possible. Stop using electric, gas, diesel, petrol or anything you burn as much as possible. Don't expect the government to save you, democratic society is about creating your own decisions and being considerate of you fellow man. Doing things just for the fun, because we have the money or time and desire attention, for the excessive anti-social behaviour promoted needs to be shameful. Just don't buy into it!!


If I buy less, use less, would there be less jobs for other people? Maybe my own job would get cut, since people aren't buying as much. How are people even going to afford the bare necessities to survive, if there aren't enough jobs? Maybe, we could tax the hell out of those rich companies and corporations, and the people working for them. You know, the people that provide jobs, so we can earn money, to pay for what we want and need. If people aren't buying their products and services, why pay people to sit around waiting for customers? Why work, if the government is collecting taxes, just to pass out to the non-working people?
09-10-2020 05:56
HarveyH55
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GasGuzzler wrote:
Nemoturd wrote:
democratic society is about creating your own decisions and being considerate of you fellow man.


Nemoturd wrote:
We need to....ridicule people who believe this is how to get adoration and positive affirmation.


Nemoturd wrote:
Doing things just for the fun, because we have the money or time and desire attention, for the excessive anti-social behaviour promoted needs to be shameful.


So you will be considerate of me (your fellow man) as long as I live my life as YOU see fit? Who the hell are you?

What's wrong with burning fuel anyway??


You might derive some sort of pleasure from burning fuels, using electricity. They only joy in life, should come on the days the socialist government feels generous enough to pass out food and toilet paper every month (or so). You'll appreciate having a generous, and government most, on those days. Gives you something to look forward to, over the next month or so. Takes longer, if you whine and complain. But, if you cheer, and appreciate enough, they might give you two rolls of toilet paper.

Remember last winter, when the did the lockdown thing, and people instinctively hoarded toilet paper...
10-10-2020 05:29
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Nemohawk wrote: We need to stop believing that excess is successful,


Were you going to define "excess"?


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A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
10-10-2020 08:14
HarveyH55
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IBdaMann wrote:
Nemohawk wrote: We need to stop believing that excess is successful,


Were you going to define "excess"?


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Think it means you can't have a bowl of rice, until everyone else on the planet has a bowl of rice. Having a beer and a ribeye steak, would be 'excess', if someone else didn't get their bowl of rice for the day's labor. Does matter how hard you work, or how many hours, you are still only entitled to one bowl of rice, unless everyone gets more.
10-10-2020 16:42
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GasGuzzler wrote:What's wrong with burning fuel anyway??

I think he means don't burn FOSSILS.

He-he, the joke's on him. Fossils don't burn. Ssshhhh. Don't tell him.

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A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
10-10-2020 17:23
HarveyH55
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If course fossils don't burn... But, what happened to the organic matter, that created the void, in which the mineralized water settled, to form the fossil? Had to seep out to form the void? where'd it go, what happened to it? An assortment of carbon-based molecules doesn't just vanish, like magic.
10-10-2020 18:51
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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And now a demonstration of jealousy.
Nemohawk wrote:
We need to stop believing that excess is successful,

You don't get to define 'excess' or what 'successful' is for anyone but yourself. You are not the king.
Nemohawk wrote:
and ridicule people who believe this is how to get adoration and positive affirmation.

You are ridiculing people. You must believe this is how you get adoration and positive affirmation.
Nemohawk wrote:
Taking what you need and nothing more is the socially responsible and fashionable way to live now

You don't get to decide what anyone needs for anyone other than yourself. You are not the king. You also don't get to decide what 'taking' is.
Nemohawk wrote:
and this needs to be expressed by all that want the human race to survive.

I am still alive. I also produce stuff. I also don't think you are successful (at least by my standards). I think you are a whiny sort that is jealous of the wealth and success of others around you. I think you don't produce much of anything...probably a student in some school that has filled your head with this crap.
Nemohawk wrote:
We all need to work together regardless of colour, country, religion or any other differences we have that are inconsequential to survival of a civilised society dedicated to providing a healthy environment for all species and life on this planet.

All species already live on this planet. Your lame attempt to bring up the race issue to appear 'innocent' is bigotry and racism. Disgusting.
Nemohawk wrote:
As individuals we can stop buying things we really don't need,

You don't get to decide what anyone needs or wants to buy other than for yourself. You are not the king.
Nemohawk wrote:
especially from foreign countries.

You don't get to decide what country anyone buys things from other than for yourself. You are not the king.
Nemohawk wrote:
Buy locally produced food as much as possible.

We already eat locally produced food most of the time. You need to get out to the country more and look at all the farms and ranches around your city. You don't get to decide what everyone gets to import or export. You are not the king.
Nemohawk wrote:
Stop using electric, gas, diesel, petrol or anything you burn as much as possible.

So you want to shut down the vary local farms that are producing your food. They can't produce that food without the use of these fuels, nor even ship it to your local market so you can buy it and eat it. You don't get to control the energy markets. You are not the king.
Nemohawk wrote:
Don't expect the government to save you,

I don't. I don't need saving.
Nemohawk wrote:
democratic society is about creating your own decisions and being considerate of you fellow man.

Bald faced lie. You are despising decisions made by others than you. You are not considerate of anyone. You want to rule them. You don't get to. You are not the king. You are obviously a Democrat.
Nemohawk wrote:
Doing things just for the fun, because we have the money or time and desire attention, for the excessive anti-social behaviour promoted needs to be shameful.

You don't like fun? You don't like money? You do crave attention, but ridiculing people is not a good way to have fun. It is not only shameful, It is a fallacy. You seem to be very anti-social. You think you have the right to rule over others and dictate to them what they can produce, buy, eat, use for fuel, or how much they can make. You care not for what others have done to provide for your whiny lifestyle.
Nemohawk wrote:
Just don't buy into it!!

I'll buy what I want. I'll produce what I want. I will live the way I want to. You don't get to decide that for me or anyone else. You only get to decide for you. You are not the king.

Socialism. Scripture from the Church of Green and the Church of Karl Marx.


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10-10-2020 19:01
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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Nemohawk wrote:
We need to stop believing that excess is successful, and ridicule people who believe this is how to get adoration and positive affirmation. Taking what you need and nothing more is the socially responsible and fashionable way to live now and this needs to be expressed by all that want the human race to survive. We all need to work together regardless of colour, country, religion or any other differences we have that are inconsequential to survival of a civilised society dedicated to providing a healthy environment for all species and life on this planet. As individuals we can stop buying things we really don't need, especially from foreign countries. Buy locally produced food as much as possible. Stop using electric, gas, diesel, petrol or anything you burn as much as possible. Don't expect the government to save you, democratic society is about creating your own decisions and being considerate of you fellow man. Doing things just for the fun, because we have the money or time and desire attention, for the excessive anti-social behaviour promoted needs to be shameful. Just don't buy into it!!


Spam.


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10-10-2020 19:13
AMinterx
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The sad fact is that we will never be able to rely on everybody around the world (or even a significant proportion) changing their habits. It's an unrealistic expectation

Firstly, there are the climate change deniers who will refuse to do so.

Then there will be people who acknowledge there's a problem but won't do anything about it.

The solution has be a scientific/technological one.

Unfortunately, I don't see how artificial trees can be the answer as they can only remove ambient CO2 and will have relatively little effect.

Wind power seems to be an increasingly appealing option but not all countries have the climate or terrain to make this possible.

Maybe there will come a time when countries where wind power isn't feasible will buy electricity off other countries who can produce an amount that exceeds their needs and can sell the surplus.

It looks like carbon capture and storage is the option that will have the biggest impact but I would imagine that capture is easier to accomplish than storage.

Therefore, is it theoretically possible to capture carbon and store it temporarily until there is a infrastructure in place that allows for permanent storage?

P.S. Climate change deniers need not reply.
Edited on 10-10-2020 19:59
10-10-2020 20:33
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AMinterx wrote:Firstly, there are the climate change deniers who will refuse to do so.

Who are they, exactly? Can one "deny" that which does not exist?

AMinterx wrote:Then there will be people who acknowledge there's a problem but won't do anything about it.

What problem specifically do they acknowledge? Can one "acknowledge" a problem that doesn't exist?

AMinterx wrote:The solution has be a scientific/technological one.

Doesn't there have to be an actual problem that exists in order to have a "solution"?

AMinterx wrote:Unfortunately, I don't see how artificial trees can be the answer as they can only remove ambient CO2 and will have relatively little effect.

What beneficial purpose can be achieved by removing this planet's life-essential compound from the atmosphere?

AMinterx wrote: Maybe there will come a time when countries where wind power isn't feasible will buy electricity off other countries who can produce an amount that exceeds their needs and can sell the surplus.

I hate to throw cold water on your hopes and dreams but ...

AMinterx wrote:It looks like carbon capture and storage is the option that will have the biggest impact...

Absolutely. If you are completely successful you will kill all the life on the planet. You sound like an evil supervillain trying to destroy humanity.

URN -utcase

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A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
10-10-2020 21:05
AMinterx
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I think you missed the postscript that time.

I'll be putting it at the end of all my posts.

P.S. Climate change deniers need not reply.

IBdaMann wrote:
AMinterx wrote:Firstly, there are the climate change deniers who will refuse to do so.

Who are they, exactly? Can one "deny" that which does not exist?

AMinterx wrote:Then there will be people who acknowledge there's a problem but won't do anything about it.

What problem specifically do they acknowledge? Can one "acknowledge" a problem that doesn't exist?

AMinterx wrote:The solution has be a scientific/technological one.

Doesn't there have to be an actual problem that exists in order to have a "solution"?

AMinterx wrote:Unfortunately, I don't see how artificial trees can be the answer as they can only remove ambient CO2 and will have relatively little effect.

What beneficial purpose can be achieved by removing this planet's life-essential compound from the atmosphere?

AMinterx wrote: Maybe there will come a time when countries where wind power isn't feasible will buy electricity off other countries who can produce an amount that exceeds their needs and can sell the surplus.

I hate to throw cold water on your hopes and dreams but ...

AMinterx wrote:It looks like carbon capture and storage is the option that will have the biggest impact...

Absolutely. If you are completely successful you will kill all the life on the planet. You sound like an evil supervillain trying to destroy humanity.

URN -utcase

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Edited on 10-10-2020 21:09
11-10-2020 00:04
HarveyH55
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It's a very dynamic world we live on, for which we have very little understanding of how it all comes together so perfectly, as to support life. Seems most agree this spinning hunk of rock has been supporting life, a great deal longer, than the humans have been fouling it, always burning stuff. Look at California, nasty bastards... I don't know much about all this 'denier' crap, or 'climate change' crap. We are just on this rock, for the free ride. We have no influence over how that trip goes, or where it ends. We can just roll with it, and deal with what happens the best we can. Fortunately, the human population is pretty good with tools, and building stuff, so we are highly adaptive. This is our first inter-glacial period, as a cognitive, and aware species, so we really don't know what to normally expect, or when something is going horribly wrong. That's just politics. Hell, 8 months ago, the politician were telling us 2 million people would die of covid-19, if we didn't hide in the basement, from the deadliest cold virus, ever to infect the human population. Only a Joe Biden supporter would accept basement confinement forever, and ever, or until a holy vaccine could be administered to the ignorant masses. Don't think we are going to get any where near 2 million deaths from covid in America, probably not even the entire world, for that matter. Most recently, the well respect prophet, Dr. Fauci predicts 400,000 deaths by the end of the year. Don't see that happening either. These predictions, are based on the same flawed computer modeling scam/scheme. Probably on the same computers running the climate change, video games.

I don't know if there is any actual 'problem', but I do know that the political-panic, doesn't rise to crisis level. I like a warmer climate anyway. Probably just polar bears and penguins might take issue. Not sure if any Eskimo will miss polar bears knocking over their trashcans, scattering garbage all over the neighborhood.

Why waste energy on carbon capture? We barely produce what we need, buy burning fossil fuels. We are going to to take a huge reduction, when we go to solar panels and pinwheels. Not to mention the huge jump in demand for electricity. Got a charge all those electric cars off something.

Can't stand the heat, buy a damn Air Conditioner. Of course, it's basically useless in California, rolling blackouts daily... And the still burning fossil fuels, and apparently everything else.
11-10-2020 02:54
AMinterx
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Can anyone recommend any other forums on climate change and renewable energy?

My first impression of this forum based on the responses I've had so far is not a good one.

P.S. Climate change deniers or people who want to get on their political soap box need not reply.
11-10-2020 03:48
duncan61
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I can help.Go to Skeptical Science they will love you over there.I posted 2 questions about sea level rise and was blocked for daring to question the faith
11-10-2020 20:31
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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AMinterx wrote:
The sad fact is that we will never be able to rely on everybody around the world (or even a significant proportion) changing their habits. It's an unrealistic expectation

Firstly, there are the climate change deniers who will refuse to do so.

You have to define 'climate change' before anyone can deny it or propose so-called solutions for it.
AMinterx wrote:
Then there will be people who acknowledge there's a problem but won't do anything about it.
There is no problem. It is not possible to create energy out of nothing. No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth.
AMinterx wrote:
The solution has be a scientific/technological one.
You deny science, so that writes you off right there.
AMinterx wrote:
Unfortunately, I don't see how artificial trees can be the answer as they can only remove ambient CO2 and will have relatively little effect.

Artificial trees are plastic. They have no effect. It is not necessary to capture CO2.
AMinterx wrote:
Wind power seems to be an increasingly appealing option but not all countries have the climate or terrain to make this possible.
Piddle power and expensive.
AMinterx wrote:
Maybe there will come a time when countries where wind power isn't feasible will buy electricity off other countries who can produce an amount that exceeds their needs and can sell the surplus.
There is no such thing as surplus electricity. Use it or lose it.
AMinterx wrote:
It looks like carbon capture and storage is the option that will have the biggest impact but I would imagine that capture is easier to accomplish than storage.
It's easy to extract CO2 out of the atmosphere. Gas liquification plants use the atmosphere as raw material to liquify CO2, oxygen, hydrogen, and other gasses sold to industry in bottles.
AMinterx wrote:
Therefore, is it theoretically possible to capture carbon and store it temporarily until there is a infrastructure in place that allows for permanent storage?
There is no need to reduce CO2 in the atmosphere. It is a necessary gas for life on this planet. It has no capability to warm the Earth. You cannot create energy out of nothing.
AMinterx wrote:
P.S. Climate change deniers need not reply.

You don't get to dictate where people can reply. You are not the king.
You don't get to dictate energy markets. You are not the king.


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11-10-2020 20:33
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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AMinterx wrote:
I think you missed the postscript that time.

I'll be putting it at the end of all my posts.

P.S. Climate change deniers need not reply.


No, I ignore your postscript. First, it is meaningless. You have not yet defined 'global warming'. Second, you do not get to dictate who can post where. You are not the king.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit
11-10-2020 20:34
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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AMinterx wrote:
Can anyone recommend any other forums on climate change and renewable energy?

My first impression of this forum based on the responses I've had so far is not a good one.

P.S. Climate change deniers or people who want to get on their political soap box need not reply.


None better than here. You will learn a lot here, if you are willing to learn science and mathematics.

Define 'climate change'.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit
12-10-2020 01:38
duncan61
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Into the Night wrote:
AMinterx wrote:
Can anyone recommend any other forums on climate change and renewable energy?

My first impression of this forum based on the responses I've had so far is not a good one.

P.S. Climate change deniers or people who want to get on their political soap box need not reply.


None better than here. You will learn a lot here, if you are willing to learn science and mathematics.

Define 'climate change'.


Plus 1.I am finding all I need on this site.I visit watts up with that when I wish


duncan61
12-10-2020 18:21
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Nemohawk wrote:
We need to stop believing that excess is successful,

Why do you feel that you get to determine "excess" and/or "success" for others?

Nemohawk wrote:
and ridicule people who believe this is how to get adoration and positive affirmation.

Ridicule people who have more possessions than you do?? Ahhhh, the Democrat way...

Nemohawk wrote:
Taking what you need and nothing more is the socially responsible and fashionable way to live now and this needs to be expressed by all that want the human race to survive.

Who gets to determine "what one needs"? Why should they have such power over oneself? Once again, this is where the Holy Bible can provide great insight (even to non-believers)... Read up on 1st Samuel 8... Israel wanted a King as all of the other nations had (they were thus rejecting God as their King). Israel was warned of the bad things that would result from having an Earthly King rule over them, rather than being a free people able to govern themselves under God. They wanted an Earthly King anyway, and God obliged... Those bad things that Israel was warned about all soon came to be...


The following thoughts mix in my own conjecture about what will seemingly "come to be" within a few short years: Currently, the reprobate citizenry within the USA are acting in a way that is strikingly similar to how Ancient Israel acted in that particular passage that I mentioned above. For almost 250 years, the USA has been, as we say in our Pledge, "one nation, under God". The USA was founded in a similar self-governance sort of manner, where one was free to govern over oneself under the U.S. Constitution, and ultimately under God.

Now, the reprobate citizenry within the USA wishes to be like the other nations of the world and are "calling for a King". They wish to be slaves, externally ruled over, rather than being free and able to internally govern over themselves. They clamor for King Biden (which would actually be Queen Kamala and Queen Nancy, and their demonic underlings). The aforementioned "rulers" would thus likewise turn us over to global governance, whereby every nation is to be globally ruled over by the head(s) of the United Nations. The same bad things that were warned about in 1 Samuel (and much, much worse) will likewise shortly come to be (this time on a global scale).

In conclusion, "there is nothing new under the Sun"... We are simply repeating the same mistakes that we have already made throughout history... I will leave you with the words of Ecclesiastes 1:9-11 (NIV) ...

(9) What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun. (10) Is there anything of which one can say, "Look! This is something new"? It was here already, long ago; it was here before our time. (11) No one remembers the former generations, and even those yet to come
will not be remembered by those who follow them.


Nemohawk wrote:
We all need to work together regardless of colour, country, religion or any other differences we have that are inconsequential to survival of a civilised society dedicated to providing a healthy environment for all species and life on this planet.

Tell that to the Democrats who actively divide people up by color, religion, wealth, gender, orientation, etc. etc. and additionally sow seeds of hatred against one another...

Nemohawk wrote:
As individuals we can stop buying things we really don't need, especially from foreign countries.

Again, who are you to decide the needs of someone else? Would you like ME to determine YOUR needs? Guess what... I have now officially determined that you do not need a car nor a house... A bicycle and a tent should get you by from now on... Sucks to be you, eh?


This sort of thing is what the Demonrats want for the USA... This is the sort of thing that Satan wants for the whole world... It would be wise for us to immediately reject the notion of submitting ourselves to the external rule of the United Nations before it is too late... At such a point, it is my conjecture that God will not listen to the cries of those who denounced his rule and instead willingly submitted their wrists into the shackles of the United Nations...

Nemohawk wrote:
Buy locally produced food as much as possible.

I already do, as do many other people. You really need to get out of the city and take a good gander at what "flyover country" does for your well-being... With that said, people can buy food as they see fit, no matter where it comes from. You don't get to control them...

Nemohawk wrote:
Stop using electric, gas, diesel, petrol or anything you burn as much as possible.

Not feasible.

You can't have the local farms that you just promoted above, (producing enough food to feed the populace), if you don't allow them to make use of the electric, gas, diesel, petrol, etc. that is necessary to run the equipment that is used to dig up the ground, plant the crop, spray the weeds, water the crop, harvest the crop, transport the crop, store the crop, etc. etc...

You really do need to get outside of the city more often before you start mindlessly spouting off such things...

Nemohawk wrote:
Don't expect the government to save you,

I don't. I am one of them "flyover country folk"... I can take care of myself.

Nemohawk wrote:
democratic society is about creating your own decisions and being considerate of you fellow man.

LIE. You wish to be externally ruled over by an Earthly King, rather than internally ruled (self-governed), under God (as I have explained in detail above). You have, within this very comment alone, been advocating for external governmental forces to make people's decisions FOR them, rather than allowing people to make their own decisions for themselves. I personally consider such a compulsory and dictatorial viewpoint to be downright Satanic.

Nemohawk wrote:
Doing things just for the fun, because we have the money or time and desire attention, for the excessive anti-social behaviour promoted needs to be shameful. Just don't buy into it!!

You really do seem to hate those who have enabled you to have your current whiny lifestyle, eh?
Edited on 12-10-2020 18:39
12-10-2020 18:49
HarveyH55
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How come he get's a bicycle and a tent, and the guys in the undeveloped lot have to walk, and live under cardboard boxes?
13-10-2020 04:39
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HarveyH55 wrote:
How come he get's a bicycle and a tent, and the guys in the undeveloped lot have to walk, and live under cardboard boxes?

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