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A Historical Perspective of Climate Change15-03-2020 16:53
James___
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http://www.co2science.org/subject/d/summaries/dacpeurope.php
17-03-2020 05:04
Amanbir GrewalProfile picture★☆☆☆☆
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who are you talking to? and about what?

the east is open, you want me to land on it when you've dyked,

the south is a wide flank, something i would fall into,

the west is poor and vulnerable,

and the north has vantages that you are well aware off.





listen to me, champ. i'll break you.



anytime we have a line of communication about the STRATEGY OF BUSINESS,

we can address Environmental Concerns through the FREE MARKET.

anytime.
17-03-2020 05:05
Amanbir GrewalProfile picture★☆☆☆☆
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who are you talking to? and about what?

the east is open, you want me to land on it when you've dyked,

the south is a wide flank, something i would fall into,

the west is poor and vulnerable,

and the north has vantages that you are well aware off.





listen to me, champ. i'll break you.



anytime we have a line of communication about the STRATEGY OF BUSINESS,

we can address Environmental Concerns through the FREE MARKET.

anytime.
17-03-2020 05:36
duncan61
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You are not suggesting that the Romans cutting down a few trees changed the climate.What I got from that article is the climate /weather cycles all on its own regardless of mankinds influence
18-03-2020 01:50
James___
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Amanbir Grewal wrote:





listen to me, champ. i'll break you.



anytime we have a line of communication about the STRATEGY OF BUSINESS,

we can address Environmental Concerns through the FREE MARKET.

anytime.



I've actually been pursuing the possibility of technological innovation which creates jobs and pays for itself. Of course in the US they call me a Socialist for suggesting people work together to create value in an idea.
18-03-2020 02:01
James___
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duncan61 wrote:
You are not suggesting that the Romans cutting down a few trees changed the climate.What I got from that article is the climate /weather cycles all on its own regardless of mankinds influence



For the most part that is why I posted that link. It's something I think I can prove through science and enjoy doing. Basically if we don't understand natural climate variation then how can we understand how we influence it? That's kind of my issue.
With that said, we need our ozone layer. It allows for life on our planet. The links are so you will know my own personal bias.
This covers the basics. A significant decrease in stratospheric ozone could harm phytoplankton which is at the bottom of the food chain in the sea and the ability for food to grow. And this is where ODSs (ozone depleting substances) are what I'm mostly interested in.
https://www.nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/ozone-layer/

And if you've noticed, the only people who might care are Australians because of the issues with the hole in the ozone layer above Antarctica. That influences the weather in south Africa (the continent). And with this, it could influence the southern oscillation which has a significant impact on the weather in Australia. Don't know if you care about that.
Ozone Hole Over Antarctica Caused Southern Africa Warming
https://www.livescience.com/40388-ozone-hole-caused-southern-africa-warming.html
18-03-2020 04:12
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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James___ wrote:
Amanbir Grewal wrote:





listen to me, champ. i'll break you.



anytime we have a line of communication about the STRATEGY OF BUSINESS,

we can address Environmental Concerns through the FREE MARKET.

anytime.



I've actually been pursuing the possibility of technological innovation which creates jobs and pays for itself. Of course in the US they call me a Socialist for suggesting people work together to create value in an idea.


Nope. Not the definition of a socialist.


The Parrot Killer

Debunked in my sig. - tmiddles

Google keeps track of paranoid talk and i'm not on their list. I've been evaluated and certified. - keepit
18-03-2020 05:36
Amanbir GrewalProfile picture★☆☆☆☆
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i've finished everything DOMINIC and HIS ORDER have churned in that seminary there in the MIDWEST Desert. regarding the fluent oil.

i've got special skills that can employ hens and ducks alike, flat dealings with the colours of god.

i've made friends with the ALAMY!

for this.




BUSINESS STRATEGY = GANDALF.
18-03-2020 17:33
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★☆
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James___ wrote:
duncan61 wrote:
You are not suggesting that the Romans cutting down a few trees changed the climate.What I got from that article is the climate /weather cycles all on its own regardless of mankinds influence



For the most part that is why I posted that link. It's something I think I can prove through science and enjoy doing. Basically if we don't understand natural climate variation then how can we understand how we influence it? That's kind of my issue.
With that said, we need our ozone layer. It allows for life on our planet. The links are so you will know my own personal bias.
This covers the basics. A significant decrease in stratospheric ozone could harm phytoplankton which is at the bottom of the food chain in the sea and the ability for food to grow. And this is where ODSs (ozone depleting substances) are what I'm mostly interested in.
https://www.nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/ozone-layer/

And if you've noticed, the only people who might care are Australians because of the issues with the hole in the ozone layer above Antarctica. That influences the weather in south Africa (the continent). And with this, it could influence the southern oscillation which has a significant impact on the weather in Australia. Don't know if you care about that.
Ozone Hole Over Antarctica Caused Southern Africa Warming
https://www.livescience.com/40388-ozone-hole-caused-southern-africa-warming.html

The ozone layer is just fine. No need to fear monger over that also.

Do we still have sunlight and oxygen??
18-03-2020 20:45
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gfm7175 wrote: The ozone layer is just fine. No need to fear monger over that also.

That's a pretty bold assertion. Can you back it up?

gfm7175 wrote:Do we still have sunlight and oxygen??

Well, that's a great point. I see where you're going with this.

You are pointing to a well understood mechanism:




... which has the daily cyclical result of ...



So I guess you have a valid assertion there. Interesting.


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A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
18-03-2020 22:15
James___
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IBdaMann wrote:
gfm7175 wrote: The ozone layer is just fine. No need to fear monger over that also.

That's a pretty bold assertion. Can you back it up?

gfm7175 wrote:Do we still have sunlight and oxygen??

Well, that's a great point. I see where you're going with this.

You are pointing to a well understood mechanism:




... which has the daily cyclical result of ...



So I guess you have a valid assertion there. Interesting.


.



Please read my reply to tmiddles.
https://www.climate-debate.com/forum/china-d6-e3076-s40.php#post_54149
Edited on 18-03-2020 22:17
18-03-2020 22:58
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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James___ wrote: Please read my reply to tmiddles.

I read it and I have some great news for you.

James___ wrote: Thanks tmiddle for helping me to understand why Americans find no value in what goals I am pursuing at the moment.


I just asked the Americans and they are behind you and your goals 100%. We're all pulling for you!





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A Spaghetti strainer with the faucet running, retains water- tmiddles

Clouds don't trap heat. Clouds block cold. - Spongy Iris

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

If Venus were a black body it would have a much much lower temperature than what we found there.- tmiddles

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
18-03-2020 23:32
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★☆
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James___ wrote:
Please read my reply to tmiddles.
https://www.climate-debate.com/forum/china-d6-e3076-s40.php#post_54149

Does it matter?

We're all gonna die from Wuhan Virus, remember?
19-03-2020 01:05
James___
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gfm7175 wrote:
James___ wrote:
Please read my reply to tmiddles.
https://www.climate-debate.com/forum/china-d6-e3076-s40.php#post_54149

Does it matter?

We're all gonna die from Wuhan Virus, remember?



If I were to get Covid19, I have an underlying condition. But since I am disabled/handicapped am basically isolated anyway. That's where being disabled creates opportunities for me.

Edited on 19-03-2020 01:09
19-03-2020 10:17
Amanbir GrewalProfile picture★☆☆☆☆
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the ISS is rotating live on youtube and you can see the earth from its CAM. it does 15 rounds a day at a speed of 27000 km/hr.

that thing is hurls across space like a well controlled machine.

it does not breathe any OZONE LAYERS.


ISIS is dead. though.


HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE:: WHO BUILT LINDISFARNE AS A CHURCH OF GOD?
19-03-2020 15:18
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★☆
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James___ wrote:
gfm7175 wrote:
James___ wrote:
Please read my reply to tmiddles.
https://www.climate-debate.com/forum/china-d6-e3076-s40.php#post_54149

Does it matter?

We're all gonna die from Wuhan Virus, remember?



If I were to get Covid19, I have an underlying condition. But since I am disabled/handicapped am basically isolated anyway. That's where being disabled creates opportunities for me.

Right on!
19-03-2020 15:18
gfm7175Profile picture★★★★☆
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Amanbir Grewal wrote:
the ISS is rotating live on youtube and you can see the earth from its CAM. it does 15 rounds a day at a speed of 27000 km/hr.

that thing is hurls across space like a well controlled machine.

it does not breathe any OZONE LAYERS.


ISIS is dead. though.


HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE:: WHO BUILT LINDISFARNE AS A CHURCH OF GOD?

Are you okay?
19-03-2020 15:28
James___
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Amanbir Grewal wrote:
the ISS is rotating live on youtube and you can see the earth from its CAM. it does 15 rounds a day at a speed of 27000 km/hr.

that thing is hurls across space like a well controlled machine.



Here's your answer, I copied and pasted because it references the MIR space station and if such shielding were used outside of the Earth's Van Allen radiation belts.
It also mentions how astronauts recieve more exposure which can increase risks associated with exposure to solar radiation.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2956-space-station-radiation-shields-disappointing/

Radiation levels on the International Space Station are as high as they were on the antiquated Russian space station Mir, in spite of NASA's attempts to clad the ISS with better shielding. If NASA can't protect astronauts, its vision of sending a crew into deep space may come to nothing.

Data collected by NASA and a Russian-Austrian collaboration show that astronauts on the ISS are subjected to about 1 millisievert of radiation per day, about the same as someone would get from natural sources on Earth in a whole year. Spending three months in these conditions translates into about one-tenth the long-term cancer risk incurred by regular smokers.

While this may be an acceptable risk, sending astronauts beyond the Earth's protective magnetic field will vastly increase their exposure. "If you sent two people to Mars, one of them would die," says Marco Durante of the Federico II University in Naples, who has studied the health effects of radiation in Mir astronauts for ESA.
20-03-2020 10:45
Amanbir GrewalProfile picture★☆☆☆☆
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how much money is spent on that space program?

never mind.
20-03-2020 16:20
James___
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Amanbir Grewal wrote:
how much money is spent on that space program?

never mind.



I have a question for you sir. Since people travelling to another planet at present isn't a real possibility, should we be concerned about our environment?
21-03-2020 09:41
Amanbir GrewalProfile picture★☆☆☆☆
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if you give me an anchor, i could bring the planets closer!

all of them and the dwarf one.


AUGUST COMTE AN EMPLOYED SOCIALIST BEFORE A PANEL OTHERWISE A SIMPLE PLANNER OF GUISES AND POTIONS




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