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keepit
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Redfield (i think he's the surgeon general) is now saying that schools in areas where the positivity rate is 5% or lower can open. That means that 1 in 20 has the virus so that means that in a classromm with 30 kids in it, 1 or 2 kids has the virus. How many days in the classroom will it take until every kid in that classroom becomes infected?
Would anyone here sit in a classroom day after day when you know that 1 or 2 kids has the virus? Not me. I think it is unconscionable to force children into a situation like that.
26-07-2020 04:08
duncan61
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Is there not a forum somewhere that wishes to discuss this Covid stuff.We have no cases in West Australia and I have zero interest.I am very confident you keep posting controversial stuff to get a reaction.Is there a name for that.
26-07-2020 04:15
keepit
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Sorry Duncan. It's an emergency.
Do you know of a covid form?
Edited on 26-07-2020 04:18
26-07-2020 08:01
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keepit wrote: That means that 1 in 20 has the virus so that means that in a classromm with 30 kids in it, 1 or 2 kids has the virus. How many days in the classroom will it take until every kid in that classroom becomes infected?

We would never know since many won't ever show symptoms. The bottom line is that, like every other flu season, many kids will get it and a few days later they will be immune and stronger.

keepit wrote: Would anyone here sit in a classroom day after day when you know that 1 or 2 kids has the virus?

Yes, I would. My children would.

keepit wrote:Not me.

You never liked going to school in the first place.

keepit wrote: I think it is unconscionable to force children into a situation like that.

That's because you find getting an education unconsionable. Most others disagree with you.

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26-07-2020 09:46
duncan61
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I typed in Covid forums and there are 8000+ sites.F-off over there you scared gooseberry.
26-07-2020 18:19
keepit
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Duncan,
OK
26-07-2020 19:04
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keepit wrote:
Redfield (i think he's the surgeon general) is now saying that schools in areas where the positivity rate is 5% or lower can open. That means that 1 in 20 has the virus so that means that in a classromm with 30 kids in it, 1 or 2 kids has the virus. How many days in the classroom will it take until every kid in that classroom becomes infected?
Would anyone here sit in a classroom day after day when you know that 1 or 2 kids has the virus? Not me. I think it is unconscionable to force children into a situation like that.


You must not have spent much time in a classroom... Kids immune systems are mainly 'educated' in public schools. It' one of the few valuable lesson being taught anymore, that kids can appreciate, their entire lives, instead of hiding in the basement, wearing a face mask. It's also important, that kids get this 'education' early as possible, before they get to be your age, and crap their pants every time they are in a room, and somebody coughs or sneezes. There are literally hundreds of virus floating around, all the time. Covid-19, is that big of a deal, those others never go away either. We, as a society, build up what they call, 'herd' immunity. Which is basically the vast majority (over 70%), have the antibodies to quickly fight off the infection, without the usual symptoms, like running nose, coughs, sneezing, which tend to spread the virus to others, who might not have antibodies for that particular virus strain. It takes 2-3 years, of people getting infected, or vaccinated, to achieve herd immunity in a large population. Herd immunity has to be maintained, meaning that kids either need to get infected, or vaccinated. A vaccine seldom covers more than 3-4 viruses at a time, since the body can only respond, and produce antibodies for a limited number at any give time. If they cram too many into a single shot, some of them aren't going to produce antibodies, no way of knowing, unless tested a couple weeks later. Most of the past pandemic viruses, are still out and and about. Influenza is really deadly for some, and not too picky about who it kills. That's why the push the yearly flu shots, that contain protection for the 3-4 strains they computer-modeled, as being most active. Like climate change models, they are almost always wrong, about a coin toss on average...

Antibodies don't do anything, until you get re-infected. Takes 1-3 days to stop and remove the virus, which we seldom even notice. When we do feel it, we often just think we might be coming down with something, mild fatigue, slight fever, we get some sleep, usually feel much better the next day. Spreading the virus, while the antibodies go to work, is still possible, but very slight chance, since we aren't expelling fluids to share with others.

You are afraid of Covid-19, but think about when one of the influenza virus start getting hot again, because we let the herd immunity slip, and the CDC guesses wrong (often), and doesn't include that string in the annual vaccine. Forcing everyone to hide, and slowing the spread of all viruses, is going to hurt us bad, later on. We need to accept the loses, and get back to what normally works. We can't save them all, since none are going to live for ever. The best we can put off the mass extinction of the elderly and F.B.R. members of the population, for a couple years. Basement dwelling, isn't natural, or the new normal.
27-07-2020 10:37
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keepit wrote:
Redfield (i think he's the surgeon general) is now saying that schools in areas where the positivity rate is 5% or lower can open. That means that 1 in 20 has the virus so that means that in a classromm with 30 kids in it, 1 or 2 kids has the virus. How many days in the classroom will it take until every kid in that classroom becomes infected?
Would anyone here sit in a classroom day after day when you know that 1 or 2 kids has the virus? Not me. I think it is unconscionable to force children into a situation like that.


Manufactured numbers. Meaningless.


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27-07-2020 10:38
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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keepit wrote:
Sorry Duncan. It's an emergency.
Do you know of a covid form?


No emergency. 0.3% infection rate is not an emergency.


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