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21 Reasons To Be Skeptical of Man-Made Climate Change


21 Reasons To Be Skeptical of Man-Made Climate Change20-09-2019 12:34
One Punch Man
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https://chipstero7.blogspot.com/2018/09/20-reasons-to-be-skeptical-of-man-made.html


Nathan-D
20-09-2019 14:47
tmiddlesProfile picture★★★★☆
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Thanks One Punch. Clickable link:
https://chipstero7.blogspot.com/2018/09/20-reasons-to-be-skeptical-of-man-made.html

There are about 21 topics worth discussing there:
"The effects of CO2 are overwhelmed by water vapour. The Earth's mean surface temperature is currently about 15°C while its blackbody temperature is -18°C and the temperature difference of about 33°C represents a large amount of 'radiative forcing' by the atmospheric greenhouse. In fact it amounts to about 153 W/m2. The concentration of water vapour in the atmosphere is on average 1% (source: NASA Earth Fact Sheet) while the concentration of CO2 is 0.04%. Hence water vapour is about 25 times more abundant than CO2 in the atmosphere and pound for pound it also has a greater potency than CO2 as well because it absorbs energy over a far wider frequency in the electromagnetic spectrum "



"Good tests kill flawed theories; we remain alive to guess again." - Karl Popper
ITN/IBD Fraud exposed: The 2nd LTD add on claiming radiance from cooler bodies can't be absorbed Max Planck debunks, they can't explain:net-thermal-radiation-you-in-a-room-as-a-reference& Proof: no data is ever valid for them.
Edited on 20-09-2019 14:50
20-09-2019 15:23
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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tmiddles wrote:"The effects of CO2 are overwhelmed by water vapour.

Great. This is the first time I've ever heard of one zero being "overwhelmed" by another zero.

tmiddles wrote:The Earth's mean surface temperature is currently about 15°C while its blackbody temperature is -18°C and the temperature difference of about 33°C represents a large amount of 'radiative forcing' by the atmospheric greenhouse.

Wow, there's so much wrong here. Let's unpack this:

tmiddles wrote:The Earth's mean surface temperature is currently about 15°C ...

Look! This completely fabricated number has a zero margin of error! You might as well use this total fiction to compare apples to oranges, e.g. comparing surface with total average temperature of the atmosphere, surface and hydrosphere combined.

Oh, I see you are about to take me up on my suggestion ...

tmiddles wrote:while its blackbody temperature is -18°C ...

Look! Another completely fabricated number with a zero margin of error as well!

tmiddles wrote:and the temperature difference of about 33°C represents a large amount of 'radiative forcing' by the atmospheric greenhouse.

Yup, it's a miracle.

This is the bogus argument of the subjunctive ... declaring that the earth is not the temperature it should be, and that the reason is the Global Warming miracle, ooops, I mean "forcing."

tmiddles wrote: In fact it amounts to about 153 W/m2.

We all know that miracles are definite; they don't have "margins of error" or the like. "Miracles" ... I mean "forcings" ... imply belief which implies certainty which is antithetical to acknowledging possible error.

tmiddles wrote: The concentration of water vapour in the atmosphere is on average 1%

Look! This completely fabricated number is being hailed as TRUE because it comes from a government agency with a heavy leftist political agenda.

tmiddles wrote: ITN/IBD Fraud exposed: The 2nd LTD add on claiming radiance from cooler bodies can't be absorbed

I'm ever so amused that you lump us together simply because you perceive disagreement. Your WACKY ideology requires you to ignore what we write and then assign bogus positions to us. I bet you still wonder why you don't get a lot of people who are willing to listen to you for very long, much less try to hold a conversation with you.

Enjoy!


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Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

When the alt-physics birds sing about "indivisible bodies," we've got pure BS. - VernerHornung

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
20-09-2019 16:10
tmiddlesProfile picture★★★★☆
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IBdaMann wrote:
tmiddles wrote:and the temperature difference of about 33°C represents a large amount of 'radiative forcing' by the atmospheric greenhouse.

Yup, it's a miracle.
....
I'm ever so amused that you lump us together simply because you perceive disagreement.
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More b.s. psychoanalysis with nothing at all to say.

Everything below applies to you both.

You are simply trying to end debate. In effect a censor.



"Good tests kill flawed theories; we remain alive to guess again." - Karl Popper
ITN/IBD Fraud exposed: The 2nd LTD add on claiming radiance from cooler bodies can't be absorbed Max Planck debunks, they can't explain:net-thermal-radiation-you-in-a-room-as-a-reference& Proof: no data is ever valid for them
Edited on 20-09-2019 16:11
20-09-2019 16:40
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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tmiddles wrote:More b.s. psychoanalysis with nothing at all to say.

I tried to have a discussion with you but you simply won't have it. You didn't come here to discuss; you came here to preach the good news of Global Warming.

tmiddles wrote:Everything below applies to you both.

Nope. Some of the material pertains to Into the Night, some pertains to me, and you are dishonestly applying positions to each of us that we do not have.

tmiddles wrote: You are simply trying to end debate. In effect a censor.

I seek to facilitate debate. You are simply trying to end debate on the subject you are preaching. The whole attempt to shut down freedom of thought is coming from you.


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Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

When the alt-physics birds sing about "indivisible bodies," we've got pure BS. - VernerHornung

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist
20-09-2019 20:00
Into the NightProfile picture★★★★★
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tmiddles wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
tmiddles wrote:and the temperature difference of about 33°C represents a large amount of 'radiative forcing' by the atmospheric greenhouse.

Yup, it's a miracle.
....
I'm ever so amused that you lump us together simply because you perceive disagreement.
.


More b.s. psychoanalysis with nothing at all to say.

Everything below applies to you both.

You are simply trying to end debate. In effect a censor.



"Good tests kill flawed theories; we remain alive to guess again." - Karl Popper
ITN/IBD Fraud exposed: The 2nd LTD add on claiming radiance from cooler bodies can't be absorbed Max Planck debunks, they can't explain:net-thermal-radiation-you-in-a-room-as-a-reference& Proof: no data is ever valid for them


Making up random numbers and using them as data is not a debate. It is a fallacy.


The Parrot Killer
20-09-2019 21:12
tmiddlesProfile picture★★★★☆
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IBdaMann wrote:
tmiddles wrote:Everything below applies to you both.

Nope. Some of the material pertains to Into the Night, some pertains to me, and you are dishonestly applying positions to each of us that we do not have.
.

You sure talk a lot for a guy who can't be bothered to fill in his own blanks.
20-09-2019 21:46
IBdaMannProfile picture★★★★★
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tmiddles wrote:
IBdaMann wrote:
tmiddles wrote:Everything below applies to you both.

Nope. Some of the material pertains to Into the Night, some pertains to me, and you are dishonestly applying positions to each of us that we do not have.
.

You sure talk a lot for a guy who can't be bothered to fill in his own blanks.

I am so glad you raised the issue of talking alot without providing answers. You are unmatched in that regard. You haven't answered a single question that I have asked.

So, ... you win! Well done.


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Global Warming: The preferred religion of the scientifically illiterate.

Printing dollars to pay debt doesn't increase the number of dollars. - keepit

When the alt-physics birds sing about "indivisible bodies," we've got pure BS. - VernerHornung

Ah the "Valid Data" myth of ITN/IBD. - tmiddles

Ceist - I couldn't agree with you more. But when money and religion are involved, and there are people who value them above all else, then the lies begin. - trafn

You are completely misunderstanding their use of the word "accumulation"! - Climate Scientist.

The Stefan-Boltzman equation doesn't come up with the correct temperature if greenhouse gases are not considered - Hank

:*sigh* Not the "raw data" crap. - Leafsdude

IB STILL hasn't explained what Planck's Law means. Just more hand waving that it applies to everything and more asserting that the greenhouse effect 'violates' it.- Ceist




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