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Winter Sea Ice Sets Record24-03-2018 00:37
GreenMan
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You can argue about things like whether/weather or not we can accurately measure the average global temperature, but it's more difficult to dispute something that is easily verified, like sea ice in the Arctic.

https://www.upi.com/https:/www.upi.com/Science_News/2018/03/23/Another-season-another-historic-low-for-Arctic-wintertime-sea-ice/8141521834269/

The warming we are seeing, without a doubt in the polar regions, will reach the rest of the world. Time to start thinking about what you are going to do, when society crumbles as a result.


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24-03-2018 01:01
Into the Night
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GreenMan wrote:
You can argue about things like whether/weather or not we can accurately measure the average global temperature, but it's more difficult to dispute something that is easily verified, like sea ice in the Arctic.

https://www.upi.com/https:/www.upi.com/Science_News/2018/03/23/Another-season-another-historic-low-for-Arctic-wintertime-sea-ice/8141521834269/

The warming we are seeing, without a doubt in the polar regions, will reach the rest of the world. Time to start thinking about what you are going to do, when society crumbles as a result.


The Arctic ice extent is actually increasing on average now. The undersea volcanic ridge seems to be settling down now. This is a bogus story. It's fake news from the UPI.


The Parrot Killer
24-03-2018 15:46
GreenMan
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Into the Night wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
You can argue about things like whether/weather or not we can accurately measure the average global temperature, but it's more difficult to dispute something that is easily verified, like sea ice in the Arctic.

https://www.upi.com/https:/www.upi.com/Science_News/2018/03/23/Another-season-another-historic-low-for-Arctic-wintertime-sea-ice/8141521834269/

The warming we are seeing, without a doubt in the polar regions, will reach the rest of the world. Time to start thinking about what you are going to do, when society crumbles as a result.


The Arctic ice extent is actually increasing on average now. The undersea volcanic ridge seems to be settling down now. This is a bogus story. It's fake news from the UPI.


The only thing that is bogus here, is your bizarre Republitard statement. The Arctic sea ice is receding annually, on average also. The volcanic ridge through the Arctic has very few active volcanoes, mostly vents. It is not very likely that they have a significant impact on the ice that forms on the surface. Their eruptions are quickly cooled, and their energy absorbed way before it can make it to the surface, lol. It does eventually make it to the surface, but it is so spread out that it has little or no affect, like the heat from the core of the planet.

Thank you for making my day.


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24-03-2018 16:14
Into the Night
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GreenMan wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
You can argue about things like whether/weather or not we can accurately measure the average global temperature, but it's more difficult to dispute something that is easily verified, like sea ice in the Arctic.

https://www.upi.com/https:/www.upi.com/Science_News/2018/03/23/Another-season-another-historic-low-for-Arctic-wintertime-sea-ice/8141521834269/

The warming we are seeing, without a doubt in the polar regions, will reach the rest of the world. Time to start thinking about what you are going to do, when society crumbles as a result.


The Arctic ice extent is actually increasing on average now. The undersea volcanic ridge seems to be settling down now. This is a bogus story. It's fake news from the UPI.


The only thing that is bogus here, is your bizarre Republitard statement.

No, just your belief in the fake news and the Church of Global Warming.
GreenMan wrote:
The Arctic sea ice is receding annually,
Yes. Spring is here. Didn't you get the memo?
GreenMan wrote:
on average also.

Nope. Quite the opposite in recent years.
GreenMan wrote:
The volcanic ridge through the Arctic has very few active volcanoes, mostly vents.

A vent IS a volcano, dumbass. There's quite an extensive set of them under there too. Maybe you should study a map of the ocean floor sometime.
GreenMan wrote:
It is not very likely that they have a significant impact on the ice that forms on the surface.
Guess what? They do.
GreenMan wrote:
Their eruptions are quickly cooled,

By warming the ocean water, dumbass.
GreenMan wrote:
and their energy absorbed way before it can make it to the surface, lol.

You are attempting to utterly destroy energy. Not possible.
GreenMan wrote:
It does eventually make it to the surface, but it is so spread out that it has little or no affect, like the heat from the core of the planet.

Nope. Water convects, just like air does...just like any liquid does.
The heat from the interior of the planet is reduced by the insulating properties of solid rock. It's a pretty decent thermal insulator, you know.
GreenMan wrote:
Thank you for making my day.

If you day is made by someone like me calling you down on your bullshit, I'm glad I made you happy.


The Parrot Killer
25-03-2018 18:15
Wake
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GreenMan wrote:
You can argue about things like whether/weather or not we can accurately measure the average global temperature, but it's more difficult to dispute something that is easily verified, like sea ice in the Arctic.

https://www.upi.com/https:/www.upi.com/Science_News/2018/03/23/Another-season-another-historic-low-for-Arctic-wintertime-sea-ice/8141521834269/

The warming we are seeing, without a doubt in the polar regions, will reach the rest of the world. Time to start thinking about what you are going to do, when society crumbles as a result.


As I said before - the CO2 cannot have any effect on the atmospheric temperature since the wavelengths it absorbs have been in saturation since around 200-250 ppm. No addional amount of CO2 will make any difference and that is easily seen from the temperature curve in the troposphere which would have changed were it not the case. If more CO2 caused more absorption the temperature curve would have gotten 30% steeper. We've used weather balloons etc. since the beginning of the 20th century and this curve remains unchanged.

Also - IF the amount of energy entering the Earth's atmosphere remains the same if it is warmer in one region - say the Arctic Ocean - it MUST be cooler elsewhere - say all of the middle latitudes as we've seen. Weather patterns come and go but Solar cycles and Milankovitch Cycles are forever.

If it is getting warmer everywhere it is because the Sun is getting more energy through to the Earth.
25-03-2018 18:27
Into the Night
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Wake wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
You can argue about things like whether/weather or not we can accurately measure the average global temperature, but it's more difficult to dispute something that is easily verified, like sea ice in the Arctic.

https://www.upi.com/https:/www.upi.com/Science_News/2018/03/23/Another-season-another-historic-low-for-Arctic-wintertime-sea-ice/8141521834269/

The warming we are seeing, without a doubt in the polar regions, will reach the rest of the world. Time to start thinking about what you are going to do, when society crumbles as a result.


As I said before - the CO2 cannot have any effect on the atmospheric temperature since the wavelengths it absorbs have been in saturation since around 200-250 ppm.

Not the reason. CO2 has no ability to warm the Earth, no matter how much is absorbing infrared light from the Earth. You can't warm a hotter substance using a colder one.
Wake wrote:
No addional amount of CO2 will make any difference and that is easily seen from the temperature curve in the troposphere which would have changed were it not the case.

Sort of. The temperature curve in the troposphere is not the same everywhere.
Wake wrote:
If more CO2 caused more absorption the temperature curve would have gotten 30% steeper.

CO2 does not have the ability to reduce entropy. You cannot decrease entropy in any system. Entropy must always increase or remain the same.
Wake wrote:
We've used weather balloons etc. since the beginning of the 20th century and this curve remains unchanged.

The temperature curve in the troposphere is not the same everywhere. It changes with the weather within the local air column at the time.
Wake wrote:
Also - IF the amount of energy entering the Earth's atmosphere remains the same if it is warmer in one region - say the Arctic Ocean - it MUST be cooler elsewhere - say all of the middle latitudes as we've seen. Weather patterns come and go but Solar cycles and Milankovitch Cycles are forever.

This part is correct.
Wake wrote:
If it is getting warmer everywhere it is because the Sun is getting more energy through to the Earth.

Again, correct. The Sun is the only significant source of energy for Earth's surface and atmosphere. Only a change in the Sun's output can change the temperature of the Earth.

The interior of the Earth gets its energy from the fission reaction inside the Earth itself. Very little of that energy even reaches the surface. Rock is a good insulator. What does reach the surface is in the form of volcanic activity, the formation of crude oil and methane (and quite probably coal, although we don't know that), and of course earthquakes.


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