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Why don't Americans get Chinese to install clean coal on all their coal plants? They got world's


Why don't Americans get Chinese to install clean coal on all their coal plants? They got world's bigge24-02-2019 19:58
Tai Hai Chen
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dGHLC5YTEA

https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/5/15/15634538/china-coal-cleaner

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2017-09/20/content_32247208.htm
RE: Why don't Americans get Chinese to install clean coal on all their coal plants? They got world's24-02-2019 22:59
Into the Night
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Tai Hai Chen wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dGHLC5YTEA

https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/5/15/15634538/china-coal-cleaner

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2017-09/20/content_32247208.htm


Because China is a nation. They are sovereign. We do not have any authority to tell the Chinese government or their people to do anything about their coal plants.

Just as China cannot dictate laws in the United States, we can't dictate laws in China. Anything like that goes through a treaty that involves an agreement with the government and people of China, and the government and people of the United States.

China, of course, could do this on their own, without involvement of any treaty.


The Parrot Killer
Edited on 24-02-2019 23:00
24-02-2019 23:15
Tai Hai Chen
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Into the Night wrote:
Tai Hai Chen wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dGHLC5YTEA

https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/5/15/15634538/china-coal-cleaner

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2017-09/20/content_32247208.htm


Because China is a nation. They are sovereign. We do not have any authority to tell the Chinese government or their people to do anything about their coal plants.

Just as China cannot dictate laws in the United States, we can't dictate laws in China. Anything like that goes through a treaty that involves an agreement with the government and people of China, and the government and people of the United States.

China, of course, could do this on their own, without involvement of any treaty.


I mean why don't they hire Chinese to install clean coal on American coal plants since labor is too expensive in the US?
24-02-2019 23:52
Into the Night
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Tai Hai Chen wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Tai Hai Chen wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dGHLC5YTEA

https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/5/15/15634538/china-coal-cleaner

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2017-09/20/content_32247208.htm


Because China is a nation. They are sovereign. We do not have any authority to tell the Chinese government or their people to do anything about their coal plants.

Just as China cannot dictate laws in the United States, we can't dictate laws in China. Anything like that goes through a treaty that involves an agreement with the government and people of China, and the government and people of the United States.

China, of course, could do this on their own, without involvement of any treaty.


I mean why don't they hire Chinese to install clean coal on American coal plants since labor is too expensive in the US?


It is already installed.


The Parrot Killer
25-02-2019 00:00
Tai Hai Chen
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Into the Night wrote:
Tai Hai Chen wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Tai Hai Chen wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dGHLC5YTEA

https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/5/15/15634538/china-coal-cleaner

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2017-09/20/content_32247208.htm


Because China is a nation. They are sovereign. We do not have any authority to tell the Chinese government or their people to do anything about their coal plants.

Just as China cannot dictate laws in the United States, we can't dictate laws in China. Anything like that goes through a treaty that involves an agreement with the government and people of China, and the government and people of the United States.

China, of course, could do this on their own, without involvement of any treaty.


I mean why don't they hire Chinese to install clean coal on American coal plants since labor is too expensive in the US?


It is already installed.


Pfffft. Only on 1 plant built in 2012.
25-02-2019 06:07
HarveyH55
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https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-ne-ouc-coal-class-action-suit-20181218-story.html

Guessing not all coal plants in America, maybe it's just Washington state...

Of course, it's just a lawsuit, may not have anything to do with the coal burning plant, they just have money for the lawyers to try and steal. Usually only the lawyers get rich off class action suits... Cancer still is a mystery, not everyone exposed to the same materials, conditions, develop cancer.
25-02-2019 08:27
Into the Night
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Tai Hai Chen wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Tai Hai Chen wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
Tai Hai Chen wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dGHLC5YTEA

https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/5/15/15634538/china-coal-cleaner

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2017-09/20/content_32247208.htm


Because China is a nation. They are sovereign. We do not have any authority to tell the Chinese government or their people to do anything about their coal plants.

Just as China cannot dictate laws in the United States, we can't dictate laws in China. Anything like that goes through a treaty that involves an agreement with the government and people of China, and the government and people of the United States.

China, of course, could do this on their own, without involvement of any treaty.


I mean why don't they hire Chinese to install clean coal on American coal plants since labor is too expensive in the US?


It is already installed.


Pfffft. Only on 1 plant built in 2012.


Nope. On just about every coal plant operating. This stuff was installed during the 'acid rain' days.


The Parrot Killer
25-02-2019 08:31
Into the Night
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HarveyH55 wrote:
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-ne-ouc-coal-class-action-suit-20181218-story.html

Guessing not all coal plants in America, maybe it's just Washington state...

Of course, it's just a lawsuit, may not have anything to do with the coal burning plant, they just have money for the lawyers to try and steal. Usually only the lawyers get rich off class action suits... Cancer still is a mystery, not everyone exposed to the same materials, conditions, develop cancer.


Coal is carbon. It does not cause cancer. Washington State has one remaining coal plant. Most of our power comes now from hydroelectric, oil, and methane (natural gas). Oh...and a single nuke.


The Parrot Killer
RE: Why don't Americans get Chinese to install clean coal on all their coal plants? They got world's25-02-2019 08:46
Into the Night
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HarveyH55 wrote:
Cancer still is a mystery, not everyone exposed to the same materials, conditions, develop cancer.


Part of the problem is that cancer is not one disease. Different cancers develop in different areas of the body. All have a common characteristic, which is why we call them cancer. That characteristic is the aneuploid cell. This cell has too many chromosomes.

Normally, when a cell divides, an equal number of chromosomes are created in the daughter cells. Sometimes, this messes up. One cell gets too few chromosomes, the other one gets too many. Since the chromosomes are the instructions for the cell to operate, the one with too few quickly dies. It does not have enough instructions to continue.

The one with too many does, but the programming is messed up. All the cell knows how to do is eat and reproduce. The reproduction copies the numerous chromosomes as if they were the normal chromosomes. A tumor starts. It just eats and grows, eats and grows.

Normally, the autoimmune system in the body catches these events and kills the crapped up cell as a foreign invader. Sometimes the immune system is compromised for some reason at the critical time and the tumor grows to a point beyond where the immune system can stop it. The cancer becomes malignant.

What can cause a cell to mess up dividing? A virus? Radiation? A toxin? Stress? It varies. Each of these also place a load on the immune system, possibly overloading it to the point of not being able to handle the random event of an aneuploid cell when it needs to.

Some research on cancer attempts to identify the toxin or the radiation. Others look for a possible virus that might cause this problem. Perhaps the answer isn't any of the three, but to find a way to deal with the aneuploid cells once they grow beyond the immune system's ability to handle it on its own. This is the so-called 'magic bullet' approach to cancer research.

Surgical removal of the tumor can often be difficult to impossible depending on it's location. Proton therapy is useful for some types of tumors, others require chemotherapy (essentially a toxic cocktail of treatments and chemicals designed to destroy the aneuploid cells, sort of like sledgehammer surgery by chemistry).

If caught early enough, these treatments can be completely successful. They are harsh and uncomfortable, but they are better than the alternative (death).


The Parrot Killer
Edited on 25-02-2019 08:48




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