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Tides is the result of the rotation of the Earth and whirlpools.


Tides is the result of the rotation of the Earth and whirlpools.01-05-2018 15:53
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The opening was published in the Russian-German scientific peer-reviewed journal "Eastern European Scientific Journal" No. 3/2015. 64. June
http:/.../www.auris-archiv.de/journal.html
A positive review was also received from the Institute of Geography of the Russian Academy of Sciences.
Forum SPbSU Faculty of Geography.
http:/.../www.spbgu.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=53992

There is a strict template; tides are formed not along the entire coast of the seas and oceans, but only on those shores where the high angular velocity of the currents. And the higher the velocity of currents, the higher the amplitude of the tidal wave. On the rectilinear banks, where the currents do not have angular velocity, tides and ebbs do not form.

The waters of lakes, seas and oceans of the northern hemisphere rotate counterclockwise, and the waters of the southern hemisphere rotate by the hour hand, forming giant whirlpools.

As is known, everything that rotates, including whirlpools, possess the property of a gyro (yule) to maintain the vertical position of the axis in space, regardless of the rotation of the Earth.

If you look at the Earth from the Sun, the whirlpools, rotating together with the Earth, turn over twice a day, due to which the whirlpools precess (swing by 1-2 degrees) and reflect the tidal wave around the entire perimeter of the whirlpool.
http:/.../img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9804/7837959.21/0_f6015_1eb816e5_orig

The waters of the White Sea rotate counter-clockwise, forming a huge whirlpool-gyroscope, which, precessing, reflects a tidal wave along the entire perimeter of the White Sea.
A similar pattern of tides is observed in all lakes, seas and oceanas.
http:/.../tapemark.narod.ru/more/22.png

The waters of the Mediterranean Sea rotate counter-clockwise, forming tides 10-15 cm high. But in Gabes Bay, off the coast of Tunisia, the tides can reach three meters, and sometimes even more, and this is considered one of the mysteries of nature. But at the same time, in the Gulf of Gabes the whirlpool turns, precessing the reflecting additional tidal wave.
A tidal wave in the Amazon River creates a huge planetary maelstrom a few thousand kilometers in diameter, rotating between South America and North Africa, embracing the mouth of the Amazon River.
The scheme of motion of a tidal wave, along the perimeter of the North Atlantic planetary maelstrom.
https:/.../youtu.be/ZEhm_ONTQKc

The length of the tidal wave depends on the diameter of the whirlpool. And the height of the tidal wave depends on the rotation speed of the whirlpool of the orbital velocity of the Earth, and the time of the tilting of the whirlpool (12 hours).
A = V1 * V2 / t
where: A is the amplitude of the tidal wave (precession angle).
V1 - rotation speed of the whirlpool.
V2 is the orbital velocity of the Earth.
t - the time of tilting of the whirlpool (12 hours).

The vortex theory of tides can be easily verified by the connection between the height of the tidal wave and the rotation speed of the whirlpools. The height of the tidal wave can be determined by the location of the whirlpools. Drawing on a map of the depths and currents of the seas and oceans.
Continuation: Forum NIYA MEPhI. The theme of "Tides is the result of the rotation of the Earth and whirlpools."
https://mephi.ru/communication/forum/talk/forum13/
03-05-2018 05:48
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The major currents of the oceans in the northern hemisphere rotate clockwise, not counterclockwise. Lakes do not rotate. Currents in them are dependent on where the inlets and outlets of the lake are located.

Tides occur because the Earth and the Moon orbit each other. The Moon does not orbit a stationary Earth. The center of mass of the Earth-Moon system is offset from the center of the Earth. The uneven gravity causes the tides, twice a day, as the Earth rotates beneath the unbalanced gravity affecting the oceans.

The Earth and the Sun also orbit each other and produce a similar result, although less powerful, due to the distance to the Sun.
Edited on 03-05-2018 05:50
07-05-2018 18:24
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http://www.1902encyclopedia.com/T/TID/tides-03.html
The lunar theory of tides is too complex, it can not be studied, I think there is no person on earth who knows this theory.
Anyone who understands this theory will refuse it.
07-05-2018 18:57
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Yusup05 wrote:
http://www.1902encyclopedia.com/T/TID/tides-03.html
The lunar theory of tides is too complex, it can not be studied, I think there is no person on earth who knows this theory.
Anyone who understands this theory will refuse it.


This is somewhat odd. Your initial theory is totally incorrect. While there are currents that you might refer to as "whirlpools" they do not fit the definition of a real whirlpool. What's more, these things would synchronize to the size of the body of water that they are in and they do not. In fact the lunar theory of tides is perfectly simple and shows how and why you would have two complete tidal cycles per day.

You do not live near a body of water do you? Anyone living on an ocean would see that lunar orbit, phases and distance from Earth cause variations in tides.
07-05-2018 22:49
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Wake wrote:
Yusup05 wrote:
http://www.1902encyclopedia.com/T/TID/tides-03.html
The lunar theory of tides is too complex, it can not be studied, I think there is no person on earth who knows this theory.
Anyone who understands this theory will refuse it.


This is somewhat odd. Your initial theory is totally incorrect. While there are currents that you might refer to as "whirlpools" they do not fit the definition of a real whirlpool. What's more, these things would synchronize to the size of the body of water that they are in and they do not. In fact the lunar theory of tides is perfectly simple and shows how and why you would have two complete tidal cycles per day.

You do not live near a body of water do you? Anyone living on an ocean would see that lunar orbit, phases and distance from Earth cause variations in tides.


As well as the variations of Earth's position to the Sun. (why we get the lowest tide of the year in June, and the highest tide of the year in December, for the northern hemisphere).


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08-05-2018 12:11
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According to the lunar theory of tides, the earth's crust at the latitude of Moscow, with a frequency of two times a day, rises and falls with an amplitude of about 20 cm, at the equator the swing of oscillations exceeds half a meter.
Then why, the highest tides are formed in the temperate zones and not at the equator?
The highest tides on Earth are formed in the Fandi Bay in North America - 18 m, at the mouth of the Severn River in England - 16 m, in the Bay of Mont-Saint-Michel in France - 15 m, in the mouths of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, Penzhinskaya and Gizhiginskaya - 13 m , at the cape Nerpinsky in the Mezensky Bay - 11 m.
The swirling theory of tides explains this inconsistency by the absence of whirlpools at the equator, as well as cyclones and anticyclones.
To form whirlpools, cyclones and anticyclones, the deflecting force of Coriolis is needed. At the equator, the Coriolis force is minimal and in the temperate zones, it is maximal.
20-05-2018 13:02
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The amphidromic point is the center of the maelstrom
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphidromic_point
this is the point in the ocean where the amplitude of the tidal wave is zero, the tidal wave "runs around" this point around the clockwise or counter-clockwise direction.
https://ru.pinterest.com/pin/279856564317644726/
https://ru.pinterest.com/pin/310537336784446596/
http://goo.gl/eYVTo6
The scheme of motion of a tidal wave, along the perimeter of North Atlantic planetary maelstrom.
https://youtu.be/ZEhm_ONTQKc
21-05-2018 20:21
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Yusup05 wrote:
Then why, the highest tides are formed in the temperate zones and not at the equator?

They aren't.
Yusup05 wrote:
The highest tides on Earth are formed in the Fandi Bay in North America - 18 m, at the mouth of the Severn River in England - 16 m, in the Bay of Mont-Saint-Michel in France - 15 m, in the mouths of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, Penzhinskaya and Gizhiginskaya - 13 m , at the cape Nerpinsky in the Mezensky Bay - 11 m.

These are bays and inlets. You get a great swing in tides in such land formations due to current surge in the restricted area.

In open sea, the tide is not greater than the equator (in open sea).


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21-05-2018 21:41
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Yusup05 wrote:
According to the lunar theory of tides, the earth's crust at the latitude of Moscow, with a frequency of two times a day, rises and falls with an amplitude of about 20 cm, at the equator the swing of oscillations exceeds half a meter.
Then why, the highest tides are formed in the temperate zones and not at the equator?
The highest tides on Earth are formed in the Fandi Bay in North America - 18 m, at the mouth of the Severn River in England - 16 m, in the Bay of Mont-Saint-Michel in France - 15 m, in the mouths of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, Penzhinskaya and Gizhiginskaya - 13 m , at the cape Nerpinsky in the Mezensky Bay - 11 m.
The swirling theory of tides explains this inconsistency by the absence of whirlpools at the equator, as well as cyclones and anticyclones.
To form whirlpools, cyclones and anticyclones, the deflecting force of Coriolis is needed. At the equator, the Coriolis force is minimal and in the temperate zones, it is maximal.


The highest tides ARE found in the open ocean closest to the orbit of the moon. This varies with the seasonal variations.

The oversize tides that you are talking about like the Bay of Fundy are caused by tidal resonance of the tides which exactly match the gravitation pull of the moon at exactly the right time. As for the Severn River - that is a tidal bore which is a well known and studied effect: Tidal bores are one of the most famous tidal effects where rising water from the ocean creates tidal waves which wash inland, up rivers. They are held back by the river flows until nearly high tide when they rush upstream all at once. They take place on the Amazon and the Qiantang River in Southeast China as well.
21-05-2018 23:52
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Wake wrote:
Yusup05 wrote:
According to the lunar theory of tides, the earth's crust at the latitude of Moscow, with a frequency of two times a day, rises and falls with an amplitude of about 20 cm, at the equator the swing of oscillations exceeds half a meter.
Then why, the highest tides are formed in the temperate zones and not at the equator?
The highest tides on Earth are formed in the Fandi Bay in North America - 18 m, at the mouth of the Severn River in England - 16 m, in the Bay of Mont-Saint-Michel in France - 15 m, in the mouths of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, Penzhinskaya and Gizhiginskaya - 13 m , at the cape Nerpinsky in the Mezensky Bay - 11 m.
The swirling theory of tides explains this inconsistency by the absence of whirlpools at the equator, as well as cyclones and anticyclones.
To form whirlpools, cyclones and anticyclones, the deflecting force of Coriolis is needed. At the equator, the Coriolis force is minimal and in the temperate zones, it is maximal.


The highest tides ARE found in the open ocean closest to the orbit of the moon. This varies with the seasonal variations.

Correct. It all has to do with the angle the Moon is pulling on the Earth, and to a lesser degree, the angle the Sun is pulling on the Earth (which is why highest and lowest tides of the year are seasonal. The Moon varies with monthly variations, but also induces a seasonal effect as well since the Moon's orbit is not in line with Earth's axial tilt.
Wake wrote:
The oversize tides that you are talking about like the Bay of Fundy are caused by tidal resonance of the tides which exactly match the gravitation pull of the moon at exactly the right time. As for the Severn River - that is a tidal bore which is a well known and studied effect: Tidal bores are one of the most famous tidal effects where rising water from the ocean creates tidal waves which wash inland, up rivers. They are held back by the river flows until nearly high tide when they rush upstream all at once. They take place on the Amazon and the Qiantang River in Southeast China as well.

Another way of describing what I described, and just as correct.


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Edited on 21-05-2018 23:55
22-05-2018 09:16
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The average flow velocity in the north of the Maine Bay is about 2 km / h, due to which the height of the tides in the Bay of Fundy is about 2 meters.
To create tides 18 meters high, the current speed should increase to 18 km / h.
22-05-2018 17:02
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Yusup05 wrote:
The average flow velocity in the north of the Maine Bay is about 2 km / h, due to which the height of the tides in the Bay of Fundy is about 2 meters.
To create tides 18 meters high, the current speed should increase to 18 km / h.


Why are you attempting to use average flow rates to describe maximum? And WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THAT IDEA? Tell us what the area of the Bay of Fundy is? What is it's total volume? What is the size and depth of the inlet to the bay?

Without that exactly where in the hell are you getting any numbers at all that could describe flow rates?
27-05-2018 00:08
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Tides and ebbs are formed not along the entire coast of the seas and oceans, but only in those coasts where the high angular velocity of the currents (1-5 km / h).
On the rectilinear coasts, where currents do not have angular velocity, tides and ebbs do not form.
With an increase in the angular velocity of the current in the north of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, the height of the tides in the Penzhina Bay increases to 12 meters.
http://tapemark.narod.ru/more/41.png
With an increase in the angular velocity of the current in the north of the Gulf of Maine, the height of the tides in the Bay of Fundy rises to 18 meters.
http://www.gulfofmaine-census.org/wp-content/images/circulation/fig4.jpg
"Record high tide in the Bay of Fundy - 21.6 meters - occurred only once in the history of observations, on the night of October 4 to October 5 in 1869 under the influence of the cyclone Saxby Gale."
On the night of October 4 to 5, in 1869, under the influence of the cyclone Saxby Gale, "a record rainfall fell over the river basins flowing into the Bay of Fundy (300 mm in one day), so that the waters of the Bay of Fundy poured into the Gulf of Maine and increased the speed of rotation a whirlpool in the Gulf of Maine.
http://www.gulfofmaine.org/ebm/toolkitsurvey/images/exec-sum-2.jpg
Cyclone Saxby Gale rotating counter-clockwise, also contributed to the unraveling of the whirlpool.
In an abnormally cold winter and during a drought, when rivers flowing into the Bay of Fundy merge, the height of the tides does not exceed 1 meter.
27-05-2018 18:28
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Yusup05 wrote:
Tides and ebbs are formed not along the entire coast of the seas and oceans, but only in those coasts where the high angular velocity of the currents (1-5 km / h).
On the rectilinear coasts, where currents do not have angular velocity, tides and ebbs do not form.
With an increase in the angular velocity of the current in the north of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, the height of the tides in the Penzhina Bay increases to 12 meters.
http://tapemark.narod.ru/more/41.png
With an increase in the angular velocity of the current in the north of the Gulf of Maine, the height of the tides in the Bay of Fundy rises to 18 meters.
http://www.gulfofmaine-census.org/wp-content/images/circulation/fig4.jpg
"Record high tide in the Bay of Fundy - 21.6 meters - occurred only once in the history of observations, on the night of October 4 to October 5 in 1869 under the influence of the cyclone Saxby Gale."
On the night of October 4 to 5, in 1869, under the influence of the cyclone Saxby Gale, "a record rainfall fell over the river basins flowing into the Bay of Fundy (300 mm in one day), so that the waters of the Bay of Fundy poured into the Gulf of Maine and increased the speed of rotation a whirlpool in the Gulf of Maine.
http://www.gulfofmaine.org/ebm/toolkitsurvey/images/exec-sum-2.jpg
Cyclone Saxby Gale rotating counter-clockwise, also contributed to the unraveling of the whirlpool.
In an abnormally cold winter and during a drought, when rivers flowing into the Bay of Fundy merge, the height of the tides does not exceed 1 meter.

Tides form everywhere in the ocean.


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30-05-2018 10:37
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Table: The dependence of the amplitude of the tides of the Bay of Fundy, on the flow velocity in the north of the Gulf of Maine.
1 km / h - 5 m
5 km / h - 10 m
10 km / h - 15 m
15 km / h - 20 m
The amplitude of the tides depends on the size of the current, the speed of the current, the direction of the current, the amount of water under the current.
The average speed of the current in the English Channel is: 12-13 km / h near the city of Portland. Great Britain, 15-18.5 km / h at Cape Ag France.

The maximum height of the tides is 15 m (the city of Saint-Malo, France).
https:/.../m.youtube.com/watch?v=JdEkHGZMh8I
https:/.../m.youtube.com/watch?v=JNOpJxfI_Mg
http://geosfera.org/evropa/718-la-mansh-proliv-mezhdu-angliey-i-franciey.html
https: // m.youtube.com/watch?v=M44miAiHhrk
30-05-2018 17:23
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Yusup05 wrote:
Table: The dependence of the amplitude of the tides of the Bay of Fundy, on the flow velocity in the north of the Gulf of Maine.
1 km / h - 5 m
5 km / h - 10 m
10 km / h - 15 m
15 km / h - 20 m
The amplitude of the tides depends on the size of the current, the speed of the current, the direction of the current, the amount of water under the current.
The average speed of the current in the English Channel is: 12-13 km / h near the city of Portland. Great Britain, 15-18.5 km / h at Cape Ag France.

The maximum height of the tides is 15 m (the city of Saint-Malo, France).
https:/.../m.youtube.com/watch?v=JdEkHGZMh8I
https:/.../m.youtube.com/watch?v=JNOpJxfI_Mg
http://geosfera.org/evropa/718-la-mansh-proliv-mezhdu-angliey-i-franciey.html
https: // m.youtube.com/watch?v=M44miAiHhrk


And so? None of that backs up your hypothesis that the moon doesn't cause the tides.
02-06-2018 09:02
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"Lunar tidal current" moving from the Indian Ocean from east to west, crashing into the eastern shore of the island of Madagascar, contrary to expectations creates zero tides. And the abnormally high tidal wave for some reason arises between the island of Madagascar and the eastern coast of Africa. Wikipedia explains this discrepancy by the reflection of waves and by the fact that the Coriolis force is doing its job.
And the real reason for this inconsistency is the giant whirlpool, revolving around the island of Madagascar at a speed of 9 km / h, and precessing the reflecting tidal wave towards the eastern coast of Africa.
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Течение_мыса_Игольного
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Мозамбикское_течение
http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/645fall2003_web.dir/ellie_boyce/tidal%20types%20fig.gif
The amplitude of the tides depends on the size of the current, the speed of the current, the direction of the current, the amount of water under the current.
02-06-2018 09:46
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Yusup05 wrote:
"Lunar tidal current" moving from the Indian Ocean from east to west, crashing into the eastern shore of the island of Madagascar, contrary to expectations creates zero tides.

High tide on the eastern shore of Madagascar today is at 3:48pm local, at 2ft, and the neap tide is at 10pm, local at 0.8 ft. The next low is at 9:58am, local, at 0.5 ft.

This is greater than zero tides.

Yusup05 wrote:
And the abnormally high tidal wave for some reason arises between the island of Madagascar and the eastern coast of Africa.

Not particularly unusual. Tides on the west coast of Madagascar typically range anywhere from 8ft to 5ft from high to low tide, depending on the Moon.
Yusup05 wrote:
Wikipedia explains this discrepancy by the reflection of waves and by the fact that the Coriolis force is doing its job.

Made up shit.
Yusup05 wrote:
And the real reason for this inconsistency is the giant whirlpool, revolving around the island of Madagascar at a speed of 9 km / h, and precessing the reflecting tidal wave towards the eastern coast of Africa.
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There is no whirlpool around Madagascar. Prevailing flow is from two warm currents flowing south along either side of Madagascar, known as the Mozambique and Agulhas currents. The Agulhas is a pretty fast current, producing higher tides swings along the western coast of Madagascar.

Both currents are fed from the Atlantic equatorial currents. The equatorial currents run from east to west in both oceans, AGAINST the Coriolis forces. The reason is simple. The Sun rises in the east, warming that part of the world before the west, producing the winds that drive the equatorial currents westward.

Sailors have used the North and South equatorial currents for a long time. It is part of what is known as the trade winds (and its associated current).


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02-06-2018 09:48
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Comments: University of Cambridge Forum
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=73127.0
02-06-2018 19:10
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Yusup05 wrote:
Comments: University of Cambridge Forum
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You will find it much easier to critically analyze any argument if you learn to think for yourself and not depend on the thoughts of others to make your arguments.

Forums do not establish sea currents.


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23-06-2018 22:01
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It is believed that the maximum tides are formed in the new moon and the minimum tides are formed in a quadrature.
Has anyone checked this information?
(Minimal tides are formed in a full moon).
27-06-2018 09:47
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https://www.tide-forecast.com/locations/Saint-Malo-France/tides/latest
http://geosfera.org/evropa/718-la-mansh-proliv-mezhdu-angliey-i-franciey.html
This link shows that the height of the tides in the Gulf of Saint-Malo can determine the speed of the current in the Bay of La Mancha.
This month, the average height of the tides is about 10 meters and the speed of the current should be about 10 km / h.
If these numbers do not coincide, then the whirlpool theory can be considered a mistake.
29-08-2018 13:35
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October 3, 1869, the amplitude of the tide in the Bay of Fundy was 5 meters.
October 4, 1869 amplitude of the tide in the Bay of Fundy was 21 meters (Once in the history of observation).
For one day in the Bay of Fundy, the amplitude of the tides increased from 5 to 21 meters, 4-fold.
Question. What has changed in the Bay of Fundy in one day.
1. Gravitation.
2. The coastline
3. Inclination of the moon.
4. Rotational speed of the whirlpool.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1869_Saxby_Gale
Sharp fluctuations in the amplitude of tides occur not only in the Bay of Fundy, but also in other bays where rivers flow.
You can read the encyclopedia
https://www.encyclopedia.com/earth-and-environment/geology-and-oceanography/geology-and-oceanography/tides
https://www.1902encyclopedia.com/T/TID/tides.html
18-09-2018 20:49
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Tidal waves are synchronized with the daily rotation of the Earth and a daily delay of 50 minutes.
The moon is not synchronized with tidal waves.
The synchronous connection between the moon and the hump is the same as between the hump and the lamp post (next to your house).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunitidal_interval shows the wave lag behind the moon.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tide_clock shows the daily backlog of the wave.
29-09-2018 14:52
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Along the equatorial zone, "tidal force" is everywhere the same, and there is no need to calculate it.
(It can be conditionally aligned 1).
The height of the tide depends on the shape of the gulf.
(And the speed of the tidal wave is ridiculously small, and the filling time of the bay is too great).
https://youtu.be/dU_Byg8AhKs
In England, the "tidal power" is the same everywhere, and the height of the tides is different, why?
26-11-2018 02:38
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This theory has very good testability.
If high tides form on that bank where you are standing, it means that the current is moving fast along this bank.
It is easy to check based on a map of the sea currents that are on the Internet.
Approximately the tide chart will look like this:
1 km / h - 1 meter.
2 km / h - 2 meter.
3 km / h - 3 meter.
And so on.
The amplitude of the tides also depends on the size of the whirlpools, the amount of water under the whirlpool, the distance from the coast to the whirlpool, and the direction of flow (to the west, east, north, south).
29-11-2018 19:40
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Hi everyone..one of the reasons why we the human-race are where we are and do what we do right now.. is because we are curious, creative and of course sceptical. If we wouldn't we would still do what every other animal on this planet does to survive.. Breathing, eating, drinking, sleeping, procreating! We wouldn't care why we are here, what causes te tides, are there more planets like ours, can we theraform a planet! Most of the discoveries started with a philosophy a theory! Who says that only one of these theorys is correct. As intelligent the human mind is as ignored and blind it can be.. sometimes thinking only one theory can be correct! To say that the rotation of a planet with considering the coriolis force has no effect to the movment of that amount of liquid water on the surfaces is just as wrong as to say the mass of the moon and it's gravity has no effect on the movment of the liquid water on the earth's surface. We can blame the climate change on the rising CO2 or we can look at the problem from every perspetiv a possibility. The highest amount of greenhouse gas in the earths atmospere is water. With simple chemistry you see that if you burn fossil fuel you creat CO2 and H2O. Or the increasing numbers of humans as we witness it today and the growing mass production of animal product can also not be ignored. Or maybe we are still recovering from the ice age and we are just going back to the climate it used to be with nothing we can do about it. All I try to say is that science and our nature only works with a combination of multible events and nothing would be the same if you take only on of this componets away. Everything is relative and changes depanding on the system you are watching.
03-12-2018 15:22
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All of these theories are easy to test with hydrocollider. Hydrocollider - half-filled vessel with a rotating liquid (bucket, glass, bottle, mixer).
If the liquid rotates in the right, then the bucket around itself (in orbit) must be rotated to the left.




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