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The USA has snow in all 50 states18-01-2018 22:44
Dawlish
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So is Florida snow a new consequence of global warming? and can the families of the dead who recently froze to death sue you for your lies?
19-01-2018 00:24
Dawlish
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No thoughts huh................new ice age perhaps
19-01-2018 04:40
GasGuzzler
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The Earth has become so hot that it's cold out. Duh? Thought everyone knew that.
19-01-2018 05:36
litesong
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duh-lush dumped: So is Florida snow a new consequence of global warming?
So much AGW energy is in the High Arctic, thrusting cold fronts to the south, that no High Arctic day for 145+ CONTINUOUS days has been below average temperatures. duh-lush AGW denier liar whiners have been predicting an ice age for 20 years, since the solar TSI has been languid, now for half a century. The solar TSI has been low for 11+ years (including 3+ years setting a 100 year record low), but Earth temperatures have NOT returned to low temperatures of the early 20th century. For 395+ CONTINUOUS MONTHS, all global monthly temperatures have been over the 20th century average. duh-lush laps too much AGW denier liar whinerisms.
Edited on 19-01-2018 05:59
19-01-2018 05:41
litesong
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duh-lush wrote:.......new ice age perhaps
....the AGW denier liar whiner ice age.
19-01-2018 11:01
James_
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GasGuzzler wrote:
The Earth has become so hot that it's cold out. Duh? Thought everyone knew that.


While it's colder in the lower 48 contiguous it might be warmer in Russia. If so then the average temperature might not be much higher. This is one aspect of global warming/climate change that has been overlooked by people who only consider the U.S.
After all it is warmer in the Arctic Ocean along Norway's, Sweden's, Finland's and Russia's coast in the Arctic.
19-01-2018 11:29
GasGuzzler
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The arctic oscillation is pretty steady last 100 years. This is a local weather event.
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Edited on 19-01-2018 11:36
19-01-2018 15:06
James_
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GasGuzzler wrote:
The arctic oscillation is pretty steady last 100 years. This is a local weather event.



Am quoting from the link.
First, there is no point in the past 150 years where sea ice extent is as small as it has been in recent years. Second, the rate of sea ice retreat in recent years is also unprecedented in the historical record. And, third, the natural fluctuations in sea ice over multiple decades are generally smaller than the year-to-year variability.

https://www.skepticalscience.com/arctic-sea-ice-history-to-1850.html
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Edited on 19-01-2018 15:08
19-01-2018 18:36
litesong
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"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy slimbarf steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner & many time threatener (plus 1) gazzzed & guzzling" gullibly gushed: The arctic oscillation is pretty steady last 100 years.
From a post in 2016 litesong wrote:
With the High Arctic in darkness for almost 2 months to date:
1990's decade of Arctic sea ice extent to date was 4% less than that of the 1980's.
2000's decade of Arctic sea ice extent to date was 10% less than that of the 1980's.
The year 2012 of Arctic sea ice extent to date was 20% less than that of the 1980's.
The year 2016 of Arctic sea ice extent to date is 23% less than that of the 1980's.
The 1980's average November 1 Arctic sea ice VOLUME was 18,100 cubic kilometers. November 1, 2016 Arctic sea ice VOLUME was 6400 cubic kilometers, a loss of 11,700 cubic kilometers or a loss of 64.6%. The energy needed to melt this ice is 36 times the U.S. annual energy consumption. Since 1958, High Arctic temperature has been rising (more before satellite temperatures?). Two plus years ago, High Arctic temperature over nearly 4 million square kilometers, for 140 straight days was over average. For a few days at the end of 2015, the North Pole was THAWING! From the end of 2015 into 2016, there were 150 straight days over average temperature. For 100 straight days during that period, temperatures were 3degC to 11degC over average. For 65 straight days presently, High Arctic temperatures are & have been over average AND MOSTLY WAY OVER AVERAGE. High Arctic temperatures over nearly 4 million square kilometers presently are 18degC over average...I believe the highest anomaly since 1958. For 10 years the sun has been at a low TSI (including a 3+ year period, setting a 100 year record low). But, Earth temperatures have not returned to early 20th century levels. For 385+(?) straight months, Earth temperatures have been over the 20th century average.
19-01-2018 20:02
GasGuzzler
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James_ wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
The arctic oscillation is pretty steady last 100 years. This is a local weather event.



Am quoting from the link.
First, there is no point in the past 150 years where sea ice extent is as small as it has been in recent years. Second, the rate of sea ice retreat in recent years is also unprecedented in the historical record. And, third, the natural fluctuations in sea ice over multiple decades are generally smaller than the year-to-year variability.

https://www.skepticalscience.com/arctic-sea-ice-history-to-1850.html


Arctic oscillation has to do with Low or high pressure at the pole, not temp. Lower pressure at the poles tends to let arctic air spill southward more frequently. It carves out troughs and ridges in the jet. If you're north of the jet in a trough, you're freezing your ass off.

Litebeer has yet to explain why a warmer arctic creates lower pressure.
Simply comparing a 4 billion year old planet to the 80s is ridickless.
Edited on 19-01-2018 20:02
19-01-2018 21:49
Wake
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James_ wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
The Earth has become so hot that it's cold out. Duh? Thought everyone knew that.


While it's colder in the lower 48 contiguous it might be warmer in Russia. If so then the average temperature might not be much higher. This is one aspect of global warming/climate change that has been overlooked by people who only consider the U.S.
After all it is warmer in the Arctic Ocean along Norway's, Sweden's, Finland's and Russia's coast in the Arctic.


I checked the records around the San Francisco bay area and discovered all the high records were set at or before 1988. All the lows before 1978. The average rain totals haven't changed save on a year to year basis. The AVERAGE 5 year running average remains the same.

It isn't warmer in Russia, Norway or Sweden which have cold snaps into the -80's in some areas.

What we're seeing is nothing more than totally normal chaotic weather patterns.
19-01-2018 21:55
Wake
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James_ wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
The arctic oscillation is pretty steady last 100 years. This is a local weather event.



Am quoting from the link.
First, there is no point in the past 150 years where sea ice extent is as small as it has been in recent years. Second, the rate of sea ice retreat in recent years is also unprecedented in the historical record. And, third, the natural fluctuations in sea ice over multiple decades are generally smaller than the year-to-year variability.

https://www.skepticalscience.com/arctic-sea-ice-history-to-1850.html


Using a hundred years of so as a basis of comparison is not kosher. We absolutely know that the ice fields have greatly varied over the centuries DESPITE the many very cold times. Your computer models of the ice fields are nothing more than wild-assed guesses.

Haven't we shown that the computer models of "global warming" don't even work in reverse where we have the records to compare them with? Some of the models are off as much as 1 degree c working in reverse over only 50 years.
19-01-2018 21:57
Wake
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GasGuzzler wrote:
James_ wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
The arctic oscillation is pretty steady last 100 years. This is a local weather event.



Am quoting from the link.
First, there is no point in the past 150 years where sea ice extent is as small as it has been in recent years. Second, the rate of sea ice retreat in recent years is also unprecedented in the historical record. And, third, the natural fluctuations in sea ice over multiple decades are generally smaller than the year-to-year variability.

https://www.skepticalscience.com/arctic-sea-ice-history-to-1850.html


Arctic oscillation has to do with Low or high pressure at the pole, not temp. Lower pressure at the poles tends to let arctic air spill southward more frequently. It carves out troughs and ridges in the jet. If you're north of the jet in a trough, you're freezing your ass off.

Litebeer has yet to explain why a warmer arctic creates lower pressure.
Simply comparing a 4 billion year old planet to the 80s is ridickless.


Stupid is as stupid does.
19-01-2018 21:57
Into the Night
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Wake wrote:
James_ wrote:
GasGuzzler wrote:
The arctic oscillation is pretty steady last 100 years. This is a local weather event.



Am quoting from the link.
First, there is no point in the past 150 years where sea ice extent is as small as it has been in recent years. Second, the rate of sea ice retreat in recent years is also unprecedented in the historical record. And, third, the natural fluctuations in sea ice over multiple decades are generally smaller than the year-to-year variability.

https://www.skepticalscience.com/arctic-sea-ice-history-to-1850.html


Using a hundred years of so as a basis of comparison is not kosher. We absolutely know that the ice fields have greatly varied over the centuries DESPITE the many very cold times. Your computer models of the ice fields are nothing more than wild-assed guesses.

Haven't we shown that the computer models of "global warming" don't even work in reverse where we have the records to compare them with? Some of the models are off as much as 1 degree c working in reverse over only 50 years.


We don't have records to compare them with.

BOTH the computer models AND your so-called records are nothing more than random numbers.


The Parrot Killer
28-01-2018 05:26
litesong
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[b]Wake wrote: (litesong) has yet.....
From a post in 2016 litesong wrote:
With the High Arctic in darkness for almost 2 months to date:
1990's decade of Arctic sea ice extent to date was 4% less than that of the 1980's.
2000's decade of Arctic sea ice extent to date was 10% less than that of the 1980's.
The year 2012 of Arctic sea ice extent to date was 20% less than that of the 1980's.
The year 2016 of Arctic sea ice extent to date is 23% less than that of the 1980's.
The 1980's average November 1 Arctic sea ice VOLUME was 18,100 cubic kilometers. November 1, 2016 Arctic sea ice VOLUME was 6400 cubic kilometers, a loss of 11,700 cubic kilometers or a loss of 64.6%. The energy needed to melt this ice is 36 times the U.S. annual energy consumption. Since 1958, High Arctic temperature has been rising (more before satellite temperatures?). Two plus years ago, High Arctic temperature over nearly 4 million square kilometers, for 140 straight days was over average. For a few days at the end of 2015, the North Pole was THAWING! From the end of 2015 into 2016, there were 150 straight days over average temperature. For 100 straight days during that period, temperatures were 3degC to 11degC over average. For 65 straight days presently, High Arctic temperatures are & have been over average AND MOSTLY WAY OVER AVERAGE. High Arctic temperatures over nearly 4 million square kilometers presently are 18degC over average...I believe the highest anomaly since 1958. For 10 years the sun has been at a low TSI (including a 3+ year period, setting a 100 year record low). But, Earth temperatures have not returned to early 20th century levels. For 385+(?) straight months, Earth temperatures have been over the 20th century average.
06-02-2018 03:37
litesong
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North Pole temps are above freezing:
http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2018/02/north-pole-forecast-to-be-above-freezing-on-feb-5-2018.html




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