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The Sun II07-09-2018 13:02
James___
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..@All,
..The Holy Link is to an image that shows how CO2 is related to ice ages. There are 3 black lines. The first is by the warming at the end of the last ice age. The other 2 are ate 110,000 and 220,000 years ago which were the end of the warm periods.
...It is supposed to demonstrate that CO2 levels and global temperatures parallel each other. The graph clearly shows that our planet was cooling down while CO2 levels stayed elevated.
..And even with this current warming period it seems that CO2 levels kept elevating while the temperature has lagged behind.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/XnHPcJ72Unu7eeAn9
07-09-2018 15:39
Into the Night
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James___ wrote:
..@All,
..The Holy Link is to an image that shows how CO2 is related to ice ages.

I deleted your Holy Link again. Learn to think for yourself instead of just using the arguments of others.
James___ wrote:
...It is supposed to demonstrate that CO2 levels and global temperatures parallel each other. The graph clearly shows that our planet was cooling down while CO2 levels stayed elevated.
..And even with this current warming period it seems that CO2 levels kept elevating while the temperature has lagged behind.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. It is not possible to measure the global atmospheric CO2 content. You are denying mathematics again.


The Parrot Killer
07-09-2018 17:08
James___
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Into the Night wrote:
James___ wrote:
..@All,
..The Holy Link is to an image that shows how CO2 is related to ice ages.

I deleted your Holy Link again. Learn to think for yourself instead of just using the arguments of others.
James___ wrote:
...It is supposed to demonstrate that CO2 levels and global temperatures parallel each other. The graph clearly shows that our planet was cooling down while CO2 levels stayed elevated.
..And even with this current warming period it seems that CO2 levels kept elevating while the temperature has lagged behind.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. It is not possible to measure the global atmospheric CO2 content. You are denying mathematics again.



...Just more of your hate.
07-09-2018 17:57
James___
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@GasGuzzler, maybe you might rethink who itn is. The link (http://www.global-greenhouse-warming.com/ice-ages-and-sea-levels.html) is to the website the graph came from.
They say;
It is known that changes in earth's temperature are highly correlated with concentrations of atmospheric C02, with higher C02 levels being commensurate with warmer temperatures, as are ice ages and sea levels


..Their own graphs (in the 1st post) say otherwise. Significant cooling happens even with high levels of CO2. And itn will say it can't be measured, holy link, think for yourself, etc.
Edited on 07-09-2018 17:58
07-09-2018 20:49
Into the Night
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James___ wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
James___ wrote:
..@All,
..The Holy Link is to an image that shows how CO2 is related to ice ages.

I deleted your Holy Link again. Learn to think for yourself instead of just using the arguments of others.
James___ wrote:
...It is supposed to demonstrate that CO2 levels and global temperatures parallel each other. The graph clearly shows that our planet was cooling down while CO2 levels stayed elevated.
..And even with this current warming period it seems that CO2 levels kept elevating while the temperature has lagged behind.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. It is not possible to measure the global atmospheric CO2 content. You are denying mathematics again.



...Just more of your hate.

Paranoid.


The Parrot Killer
07-09-2018 20:53
Into the Night
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James___ wrote:
@GasGuzzler, maybe you might rethink who itn is.

He already knows. He has already seen you melt down like this before too.
James___ wrote:
...deleted redundant graph...
They say;
It is known that changes in earth's temperature are highly correlated with concentrations of atmospheric C02, with higher C02 levels being commensurate with warmer temperatures, as are ice ages and sea levels


..Their own graphs (in the 1st post) say otherwise. Significant cooling happens even with high levels of CO2. And itn will say it can't be measured, holy link, think for yourself, etc.


You are just speculating. It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. You are correct in that CO2 has no affect on the temperature of the Earth.


The Parrot Killer
09-09-2018 01:25
James___
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...@GasGuzzler, in the graph, notice the sudden drop in temperature but not in CO2 at about 320,000 and 410,000 years ago ? Yet most people will say they said it supports co2 causes global warming. And that's what they argue about. What's not being said is that Antarctica warms during an ice age in the northern hemisphere. So right now Antarctica is about 8° C. colder than when we have an ice age. It's temperature swing will be about 1/2 that of the Arctic, Greenland or Vostok (East in Russian). Что делаю теперь ? Я не знаю. Я буду думать на его. Yep, what to do now ? After all, we'd need to learn how to regulate the Arctic's temperature to avoid the next ice age. I think in the next couple of thousand years they'll probably figure out how to do that. Nuclear powered drills and cooling systems. Правилно? Really. And yes I am an American. Learning a foreign language can be a challenge and a decent way to meet people. I am also trying to get more into wood working. Have a historical project that I'm working on.
..As for all of the co2 that you're dumping into the atmosphere, if you can afford it then I guess that's your business.
..And this is where itn will start humping my leg again because that's what he does. It's a simile and not a phallusy.

..

https://photos.app.goo.gl/tuJ1uHm4wWdhNv1z8
Edited on 09-09-2018 01:38
09-09-2018 02:33
James___
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p.s., up to 40% of the U.S. agricultural production is at risk because of depleted aquifers west of the Mississippi river. Nebraska is holding on but is water from the bedrock below Iowa responsible for that ? And that's the problem that the U.S. should be discussing. As seen in other parts of the world lakes can be drained. Kind of why thinking of the Great Lakes as a source of fresh water might be an environmental disaster waiting to happen. And we also have to consider how that could effect Canada because lower lake levels would hurt every city on the Great Lakes. Sometimes it's better to maintain what we have.
11-09-2018 00:21
James___
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The link is to an image taken in Senja, Norway. In the reflection on the water you can see many stars even though the Sun is still up. Just an interesting picture.
https://www.facebook.com/visitsenja/photos/a.1682399822086440/2213802288946188/?type=3
11-09-2018 00:54
Into the Night
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James___ wrote:
The link is to an image taken in Senja, Norway. In the reflection on the water you can see many stars even though the Sun is still up. Just an interesting picture.
https://www.facebook.com/visitsenja/photos/a.1682399822086440/2213802288946188/?type=3


Quite pretty.


The Parrot Killer
11-09-2018 23:02
James___
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Into the Night wrote:
James___ wrote:
The link is to an image taken in Senja, Norway. In the reflection on the water you can see many stars even though the Sun is still up. Just an interesting picture.
https://www.facebook.com/visitsenja/photos/a.1682399822086440/2213802288946188/?type=3


Quite pretty.


..Thanks. That's something Gamul1 can think about. Since he has to wait to see if he'll be able to go somewhere to see the borealis in person then he might check out visit Senja (pronounced Senya). It is interesting that most people just consider that the borealis "is" and don't worry about the science behind it. I think if people thought about the science then they wouldn't appreciate their beauty.
..Although I do wonder sometimes if the Vikings were influenced by the borealis and that they were close to Valhalla. I know that there are those that believe that everything has a spirit. The movie Avatar used that belief as Gaia or Qi (chi).
Edited on 11-09-2018 23:08
12-09-2018 07:37
Into the Night
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James___ wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
James___ wrote:
The link is to an image taken in Senja, Norway. In the reflection on the water you can see many stars even though the Sun is still up. Just an interesting picture.
https://www.facebook.com/visitsenja/photos/a.1682399822086440/2213802288946188/?type=3


Quite pretty.


..Thanks. That's something Gamul1 can think about. Since he has to wait to see if he'll be able to go somewhere to see the borealis in person then he might check out visit Senja (pronounced Senya). It is interesting that most people just consider that the borealis "is" and don't worry about the science behind it. I think if people thought about the science then they wouldn't appreciate their beauty.
..Although I do wonder sometimes if the Vikings were influenced by the borealis and that they were close to Valhalla. I know that there are those that believe that everything has a spirit. The movie Avatar used that belief as Gaia or Qi (chi).


They probably were. They certainly sailed within range of them, and out at sea they are especially visible.

Yes. There a LOT of people that believe that most everything has a spirit. That religion is the same as Shinto, but is also believed by many other cultures than in the Far East, including many American Indian tribes and several cultures in Europe.

It is true you can appreciate the Auroras by themselves just as they are, but I find knowing the science behind them only makes them more beautiful.


The Parrot Killer
12-09-2018 13:20
James___
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Into the Night wrote:
James___ wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
James___ wrote:
The link is to an image taken in Senja, Norway. In the reflection on the water you can see many stars even though the Sun is still up. Just an interesting picture.
https://www.facebook.com/visitsenja/photos/a.1682399822086440/2213802288946188/?type=3


Quite pretty.


..Thanks. That's something Gamul1 can think about. Since he has to wait to see if he'll be able to go somewhere to see the borealis in person then he might check out visit Senja (pronounced Senya). It is interesting that most people just consider that the borealis "is" and don't worry about the science behind it. I think if people thought about the science then they wouldn't appreciate their beauty.
..Although I do wonder sometimes if the Vikings were influenced by the borealis and that they were close to Valhalla. I know that there are those that believe that everything has a spirit. The movie Avatar used that belief as Gaia or Qi (chi).


They probably were. They certainly sailed within range of them, and out at sea they are especially visible.

Yes. There a LOT of people that believe that most everything has a spirit. That religion is the same as Shinto, but is also believed by many other cultures than in the Far East, including many American Indian tribes and several cultures in Europe.

It is true you can appreciate the Auroras by themselves just as they are, but I find knowing the science behind them only makes them more beautiful.



..Sometimes it's funny to listen to a scientist try to explain where matter came from. The usual response is an alternate universe. What was funny was when I asked some guys I knew who lived in Cairo, Egypt and not Cairo, Indiana where we're going to be in 4,000 years. I pointed out to them the the pyramids were built 4,000 years ago so. They hadn't ever thought about that.
12-09-2018 17:18
Into the Night
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James___ wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
James___ wrote:
Into the Night wrote:
James___ wrote:
The link is to an image taken in Senja, Norway. In the reflection on the water you can see many stars even though the Sun is still up. Just an interesting picture.
https://www.facebook.com/visitsenja/photos/a.1682399822086440/2213802288946188/?type=3


Quite pretty.


..Thanks. That's something Gamul1 can think about. Since he has to wait to see if he'll be able to go somewhere to see the borealis in person then he might check out visit Senja (pronounced Senya). It is interesting that most people just consider that the borealis "is" and don't worry about the science behind it. I think if people thought about the science then they wouldn't appreciate their beauty.
..Although I do wonder sometimes if the Vikings were influenced by the borealis and that they were close to Valhalla. I know that there are those that believe that everything has a spirit. The movie Avatar used that belief as Gaia or Qi (chi).


They probably were. They certainly sailed within range of them, and out at sea they are especially visible.

Yes. There a LOT of people that believe that most everything has a spirit. That religion is the same as Shinto, but is also believed by many other cultures than in the Far East, including many American Indian tribes and several cultures in Europe.

It is true you can appreciate the Auroras by themselves just as they are, but I find knowing the science behind them only makes them more beautiful.



..Sometimes it's funny to listen to a scientist try to explain where matter came from. The usual response is an alternate universe. What was funny was when I asked some guys I knew who lived in Cairo, Egypt and not Cairo, Indiana where we're going to be in 4,000 years. I pointed out to them the the pyramids were built 4,000 years ago so. They hadn't ever thought about that.


Matter doesn't 'come' from anywhere. Like energy, it can be neither created nor destroyed, but it can be changed.

Yeah, it's kind of odd the attitude about the pyramids in Egypt these days. They just aren't into that stuff so much anymore. Most are Islamic now, and they also have a fair sized Christian population. They just don't worship the Ra anymore. They really haven't since the Roman empire came to Egypt. The whole bit with the pyramids centered around Ra.

Today, the pyramids are a tourist attraction, and the old temples and such to the various gods centered around Ra are in ruins (but still several are tourist attractions), and even whole cities of old have been abandoned. Some have been swallowed by the constantly moving desert sands.

Where will civilization be in 4000 years? Who knows? Probably nothing like it is today!


The Parrot Killer
14-09-2018 21:20
Tim the plumber
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James___ wrote:
..Sometimes it's funny to listen to a scientist try to explain where matter came from. The usual response is an alternate universe. What was funny was when I asked some guys I knew who lived in Cairo, Egypt and not Cairo, Indiana where we're going to be in 4,000 years. I pointed out to them the the pyramids were built 4,000 years ago so. They hadn't ever thought about that.


?????

Matter is a form of stored energy.

If you count potential energy due to gravity as negative, that is the notional point of the top of the univers's gravity well being zero, then there is a sum total of zero energy in the universe appart from the energy required to make space time.
18-09-2018 00:58
James___
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Tim the plumber wrote:
James___ wrote:
..Sometimes it's funny to listen to a scientist try to explain where matter came from. The usual response is an alternate universe. What was funny was when I asked some guys I knew who lived in Cairo, Egypt and not Cairo, Indiana where we're going to be in 4,000 years. I pointed out to them the the pyramids were built 4,000 years ago so. They hadn't ever thought about that.


?????

Matter is a form of stored energy.

If you count potential energy due to gravity as negative, that is the notional point of the top of the universe's gravity well being zero, then there is a sum total of zero energy in the universe apart from the energy required to make space time.



...It is possible that you gave people a brain cramp with your reply. With what you say then E = hv. This then could describe dark matter as being
KE = Ke - (E = hv). Just not sure if they're ready for it.
18-09-2018 20:46
Tim the plumber
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James___ wrote:
Tim the plumber wrote:
James___ wrote:
..Sometimes it's funny to listen to a scientist try to explain where matter came from. The usual response is an alternate universe. What was funny was when I asked some guys I knew who lived in Cairo, Egypt and not Cairo, Indiana where we're going to be in 4,000 years. I pointed out to them the the pyramids were built 4,000 years ago so. They hadn't ever thought about that.


?????

Matter is a form of stored energy.

If you count potential energy due to gravity as negative, that is the notional point of the top of the universe's gravity well being zero, then there is a sum total of zero energy in the universe apart from the energy required to make space time.



...It is possible that you gave people a brain cramp with your reply. With what you say then E = hv. This then could describe dark matter as being
KE = Ke - (E = hv). Just not sure if they're ready for it.


Er...............

Potential energy due to gravity (change) is equal to mgh, in my schooling.

h being height

m mass

g gravity.

What is h and v in yours? And what is the difference between KE and Ke????
18-09-2018 22:54
James___
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Tim the plumber wrote:
James___ wrote:
Tim the plumber wrote:
James___ wrote:
..Sometimes it's funny to listen to a scientist try to explain where matter came from. The usual response is an alternate universe. What was funny was when I asked some guys I knew who lived in Cairo, Egypt and not Cairo, Indiana where we're going to be in 4,000 years. I pointed out to them the the pyramids were built 4,000 years ago so. They hadn't ever thought about that.


?????

Matter is a form of stored energy.

If you count potential energy due to gravity as negative, that is the notional point of the top of the universe's gravity well being zero, then there is a sum total of zero energy in the universe apart from the energy required to make space time.



...It is possible that you gave people a brain cramp with your reply. With what you say then E = hv. This then could describe dark matter as being
KE = Ke - (E = hv). Just not sure if they're ready for it.


Er...............

Potential energy due to gravity (change) is equal to mgh, in my schooling.

h being height

m mass

g gravity.

What is h and v in yours? And what is the difference between KE and Ke????



...I was considering how dark matter might be quantified. While it's acknowledged to exist and exert force it essentially has no value associated with it. Yet for it to influence the spin of a galaxy it would need to have KE of it's own. Otherwise spiral galaxies wouldn't form, right ? So what I posted isn't something that you're considering.




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