Shocking BBC bias against flat earthers.

spot wrote:
The BBC continues to hold debates on whether climate change is real, and regularly puts on climate change deniers when doing this. The BBC says this is important to show "all sides of the debate":http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40889563
Also it puts the word 'untrue' in quotes when scientists point out objectively false claims made by climate change deniers, again 'for balance': http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-40899188
If climate change deniers get equal footing than climate change scientists, then it should also give proper time to those who believe the Earth is flat. The BBC and it's evil spherical Earth agenda NEVER give proper time to people who (correctly) believe the planet is flat. Therefore, I've emailed the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complain-online/) to say that the BBC is biased for never hosting a debate about whether the Earth is spherical or flat, and it should speak with flat Earth experts and treat them with equal respect to any "spherical Earth scientists".
Wish me luck that we will finally have a fair debate on BBC Radio 4 soon about the real shape of our proud planet Earth.

spot wrote:
The BBC continues to hold debates on whether climate change is real, and regularly puts on climate change deniers when doing this. The BBC says this is important to show "all sides of the debate":http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40889563
Also it puts the word 'untrue' in quotes when scientists point out objectively false claims made by climate change deniers, again 'for balance': http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-40899188
If climate change deniers get equal footing than climate change scientists, then it should also give proper time to those who believe the Earth is flat. The BBC and it's evil spherical Earth agenda NEVER give proper time to people who (correctly) believe the planet is flat. Therefore, I've emailed the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complain-online/) to say that the BBC is biased for never hosting a debate about whether the Earth is spherical or flat, and it should speak with flat Earth experts and treat them with equal respect to any "spherical Earth scientists".
Wish me luck that we will finally have a fair debate on BBC Radio 4 soon about the real shape of our proud planet Earth.

Spot wrote;
....the BBC is biased for never hosting a debate about whether the Earth is spherical or flat, and it should speak with flat Earth experts and treat them with equal respect to any "spherical Earth scientists"......

GasGuzzler wrote:

Spot wrote;
....the BBC is biased for never hosting a debate about whether the Earth is spherical or flat, and it should speak with flat Earth experts and treat them with equal respect to any "spherical Earth scientists"......

I don't see anything informative or intelligent here.
What I do see is another liberal who clearly doesn't understand business and profit. In Spot's little head everyone is equal and should be treated as such, including paycheck, regardless of talent, skill, ingenuity, effort, production ect....
What Spot does not understand as a liberal is that radio stations have to sell advertising to make a profit. That CO2 filled airway is not free. What does this mean Spot? I'll tell you. It means they have to put things on the air that people will listen to. Spot is likely the only one that wants to listen to a flat earther talk, but Spot is a cell phone repair man and not a business owner. Therefore he can not buy the advertising needed to put a flat earther on the radio.
This is not rocket science Spot....it's not even climate science.

Sometime soon you should ditch the entitlement attitude and grasp a shred of reality.

GasGuzzler wrote:

Spot wrote;
....the BBC is biased for never hosting a debate about whether the Earth is spherical or flat, and it should speak with flat Earth experts and treat them with equal respect to any "spherical Earth scientists"......

I don't see anything informative or intelligent here.
What I do see is another liberal who clearly doesn't understand business and profit. In Spot's little head everyone is equal and should be treated as such, including paycheck, regardless of talent, skill, ingenuity, effort, production ect....
What Spot does not understand as a liberal is that radio stations have to sell advertising to make a profit. That CO2 filled airway is not free. What does this mean Spot? I'll tell you. It means they have to put things on the air that people will listen to. Spot is likely the only one that wants to listen to a flat earther talk, but Spot is a cell phone repair man and not a business owner. Therefore he can not buy the advertising needed to put a flat earther on the radio.
This is not rocket science Spot....it's not even climate science.

Sometime soon you should ditch the entitlement attitude and grasp a shred of reality.

GasGuzzler wrote:
This is not rocket science Spot....it's not even climate science.

Sometime soon you should ditch the entitlement attitude and grasp a shred of reality.

Wake wrote;
Obama with his Marxism was exactly the same. First you give the world something to fear so that they put their trust in a large powerful government that will save you. And any government large and powerful enough to give you all you want is powerful enough to take all you have. And this has been shown time and time again throughout history.

Wake wrote:
Long rambling scarcely believable anecdote involving hippy punching......OBAMA!!!.....MARXISTS!!!

spot wrote:

Wake wrote:
Long rambling scarcely believable anecdote involving hippy punching......OBAMA!!!.....MARXISTS!!!

FYI I was in Vietnam as well.

Well the fact is climate change denial is as ridiculous as flat earth theory, You both think NASA is involved in some stupid conspiracy for a start.

spot wrote:
No you are wrong most of the NASA scientists don't think that NASA is involved in some conspiracy to fake the shape of the earth the moon landings or climate data. If you were such a perceptive all round genius you seem to think you are you would know that.

And I went a couple of years ago on holiday, whilst you were busy losing the war did you try pho? it's really good. Really interesting place, shot an AK-47 too.

Wake wrote:

spot wrote:
No you are wrong most of the NASA scientists don't think that NASA is involved in some conspiracy to fake the shape of the earth the moon landings or climate data. If you were such a perceptive all round genius you seem to think you are you would know that.

And I went a couple of years ago on holiday, whilst you were busy losing the war did you try pho? it's really good. Really interesting place, shot an AK-47 too.

Another useless attempt to paint anyone that sees the evidence of NASA's fake evidence of out-of-control global warming to be nothing more than part of the nutcakes (the largest majority of which are True Believers) who think that 9/11 was the caused by the CIA blowing these buildings up.

Just two days ago one of them was telling me that people that have never flown jetliners could never have maneuvered them well enough to hit a building.

Well Air Force regulations said that their bombers were supposed to always have two men at the controls so when I was on a bombing run the Aircraft Commander had to take a leak so they called me up there and I sat in the left seat. The Pilot wanted me so see how a B52 flies so he told me to take the controls and then turned the autopilot off and I maneuvered the aircraft around a bit before the AC returned. I probably couldn't have landed that aircraft but I sure as hell could hit a trade tower. And those Boeing 757's and 767's flew one hell of a lot better.

So take your BS about Vietnam out the back door where it belongs in the garbage bin.

You guys have one plot - if anyone knows more than you simply lie about it. Shot an AK-47 huh? The American weapon was an M16 and the AK's were Soviet issue to the Viet Min. The M16 could shoot at almost twice the fully automatic speed of the AK and was more reliable and shot straighter.

"Got to shoot an AK-47" as if that would have been some sort of accomplishment. And any soldier or marine that was there would have known that.

"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" woofed:"Got to shoot an AK-47" as if that would have been some sort of accomplishment.

GreenMan wrote:
If you think Climate Science needs debate, then why not debate the shape of the planet?

GreenMan wrote:
I And he is correct in making that statement. The science behind Climate Change is as settled

GreenMan wrote:
as the science that tells us the shape of the earth is spherical.

GreenMan wrote:
So if arm chair scientists get to dispute/debate Climate Change science, why don't they get to dispute/debate the share of our planet?

GreenMan wrote:
After all, it was just a mere 500 years ago that Europeans finally changed their official Flat Earth belief.

GreenMan wrote:
Maybe the earth is flat, and the scientists who tell us otherwise are conspiring,

GreenMan wrote:
like the climate scientists supposedly are.

GreenMan wrote:
It looks pretty much flat to me, in places.

spot wrote:

Wake wrote:
Long rambling scarcely believable anecdote involving hippy punching......OBAMA!!!.....MARXISTS!!!

FYI I was in Vietnam as well.

Well the fact is climate change denial is as ridiculous as flat earth theory,

spot wrote:
You both think NASA is involved in some stupid conspiracy for a start.

Wake wrote:

spot wrote:
No you are wrong most of the NASA scientists don't think that NASA is involved in some conspiracy to fake the shape of the earth the moon landings or climate data. If you were such a perceptive all round genius you seem to think you are you would know that.

And I went a couple of years ago on holiday, whilst you were busy losing the war did you try pho? it's really good. Really interesting place, shot an AK-47 too.

Another useless attempt to paint anyone that sees the evidence of NASA's fake evidence of out-of-control global warming to be nothing more than part of the nutcakes (the largest majority of which are True Believers) who think that 9/11 was the caused by the CIA blowing these buildings up.

Just two days ago one of them was telling me that people that have never flown jetliners could never have maneuvered them well enough to hit a building.

Wake wrote:
Well Air Force regulations said that their bombers were supposed to always have two men at the controls so when I was on a bombing run the Aircraft Commander had to take a leak so they called me up there and I sat in the left seat. The Pilot wanted me so see how a B52 flies so he told me to take the controls and then turned the autopilot off and I maneuvered the aircraft around a bit before the AC returned. I probably couldn't have landed that aircraft but I sure as hell could hit a trade tower. And those Boeing 757's and 767's flew one hell of a lot better.

Wake wrote:
So take your BS about Vietnam out the back door where it belongs in the garbage bin.

You guys have one plot - if anyone knows more than you simply lie about it. Shot an AK-47 huh? The American weapon was an M16 and the AK's were Soviet issue to the Viet Min. The M16 could shoot at almost twice the fully automatic speed of the AK and was more reliable and shot straighter.

Wake wrote:
"Got to shoot an AK-47" as if that would have been some sort of accomplishment. And any soldier or marine that was there would have known that.

Into the Night wrote:

Wake wrote:
[quote]spot wrote:
No you are wrong most of the NASA scientists don't think that NASA is involved in some conspiracy to fake the shape of the earth the moon landings or climate data. If you were such a perceptive all round genius you seem to think you are you would know that.

And I went a couple of years ago on holiday, whilst you were busy losing the war did you try pho? it's really good. Really interesting place, shot an AK-47 too.

Wake wrote:
So take your BS about Vietnam out the back door where it belongs in the garbage bin.

You guys have one plot - if anyone knows more than you simply lie about it. Shot an AK-47 huh? The American weapon was an M16 and the AK's were Soviet issue to the Viet Min. The M16 could shoot at almost twice the fully automatic speed of the AK and was more reliable and shot straighter.

A great gun, the M16.

Wake wrote:
"Got to shoot an AK-47" as if that would have been some sort of accomplishment. And any soldier or marine that was there would have known that.

Well...I could see a soldier stating that as an accomplishment. It meant he got one off of an enemy combatant.

Wake wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Wake wrote:
[quote]spot wrote:
No you are wrong most of the NASA scientists don't think that NASA is involved in some conspiracy to fake the shape of the earth the moon landings or climate data. If you were such a perceptive all round genius you seem to think you are you would know that.

And I went a couple of years ago on holiday, whilst you were busy losing the war did you try pho? it's really good. Really interesting place, shot an AK-47 too.

Wake wrote:
So take your BS about Vietnam out the back door where it belongs in the garbage bin.

You guys have one plot - if anyone knows more than you simply lie about it. Shot an AK-47 huh? The American weapon was an M16 and the AK's were Soviet issue to the Viet Min. The M16 could shoot at almost twice the fully automatic speed of the AK and was more reliable and shot straighter.

A great gun, the M16.

Wake wrote:
"Got to shoot an AK-47" as if that would have been some sort of accomplishment. And any soldier or marine that was there would have known that.

Well...I could see a soldier stating that as an accomplishment. It meant he got one off of an enemy combatant.

Now that little mouse changed his tune. First he wanted to make it sound as if he served in the service. Now it was just a "holiday".

Into the Night wrote:

Wake wrote:

Now that little mouse changed his tune. First he wanted to make it sound as if he served in the service. Now it was just a "holiday".

Maybe he went to one of the Las Vegas gun ranges. You can rent an AK-47 there (complete with instruction on how to use it!).

Wake wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Wake wrote:

Now that little mouse changed his tune. First he wanted to make it sound as if he served in the service. Now it was just a "holiday".

Maybe he went to one of the Las Vegas gun ranges. You can rent an AK-47 there (complete with instruction on how to use it!).

People like him believe that assault rifles were invented in Russia. In fact they are all developed from the German "machine pistols" of WW I. The most notorious of all of the assault-type guns was the Tommygun.

Wake wrote:

GasGuzzler wrote:
This is not rocket science Spot....it's not even climate science.

Sometime soon you should ditch the entitlement attitude and grasp a shred of reality.

Not even a chance. The worst of the things that Obama did was to give a bully pulpit to the losers of this world that really believe that they are owed a living simply for expressing an opinion on something.

Look at jim acting like a 12 year old without the guts to so much as take criticism no matter how screwed up his ideas. Reading some article that he cannot understand and repeating terms from it as if they meant something that only he could understand. Bully? This jerk hasn't any idea what a bully is.

Greenman showed his entire worth with the screen name he chose - another high school student who actually thinks that he can bully those around him by repeating the true believer rant and astonished when anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of science knows better.

When my TDY was over in Vietnam I took a military flight to Okinawa. From there I took a commercial airline back to the States. There was me and another Air Force person - a 2nd Lt. and the rest of the flight was all Army returning from heavy combat.

When we got into LAX there were huge crowds of protesters carrying signs but they were screaming things like "Baby killers" and a whole lot worse. They were pushing in around us as the line of soldiers and we two AF were trying to get over to the luggage.

One of those shouting "Baby killers" spit on my uniform and I didn't even pause to think and punched him with a right hook. There was a large snap as his jaw broke and he went down like a sack of flour, out cold.

Two cops came running over towards me and stopped cold as they realized that they were surrounded by that entire plane load of soldiers mad as hell. They changed their minds and picked that sack of crap up and left with him.

That entire crowd pulled back realizing that they hadn't any idea that THEY might have been in personal danger. A vast silence settled over them and they stood back like the parting of the Red Sea to let us through to the baggage claim and out to our transports and buses. One of the soldiers walking next to me looked over and said, "You flyboys are OK".

A couple of nights ago there was a show on PBS that supposedly showed the protesters of the Vietnam War. It was a total re-writing of history. Why they were just protesting the war and not the soldiers themselves. These protesters weren't protesting the bringing in of the South Vietnamese who would have been slaughtered because they cooperated with us. This is what these jackasses think that they can get away with. This is the world of Obama and it isn't going to stand.

I went to see a talk given by Dr. Paul Erlich at Stanford and listened mouth ajar as he essentially said that most of this worlds population should be killed off so that the intellectual elite could have a yet better life. During the discussion period I asked him if he understood what he had just said and he said he knew very well.

This infection started with Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood. You need only look up some of the statements she not only said in public but wrote in her books to see her belief that most of the world doesn't deserve to live - only the white, intellectual elite.

Obama with his Marxism was exactly the same. First you give the world something to fear so that they put their trust in a large powerful government that will save you. And any government large and powerful enough to give you all you want is powerful enough to take all you have. And this has been shown time and time again throughout history.

All you're seeing from the True Believers here is their following like rats the Pied Piper who has every intentions of using them as nothing more than fodder. And not one of them is bright enough to know it.

Look at the news about Trump. Are you aware that most Presidents poll very badly in their first years in office? But the media is lying about this as they are everything else. They are nothing more than the propaganda wing of the Democrat party. The party of the KKK and the party of those who wanted to partner with Hitler. And they are blaming the Republicans for those very same things and the democrat rank and file don't even know enough history to know that.

Jim, Greenman, spot and the rest of the "environmentalists" are responsible for a very large amount of trouble in this world and by the time they know it they will have already victimized themselves.

But the rest of the country already know this. The US survived and attack that was the worst in its history and got away. Now we have to take care of those attackers.

Wake wrote:
The M16 could shoot at almost twice the fully automatic speed of the AK and was more reliable and shot straighter.

Into the Night wrote:
NASA is a government agency. Like all government agencies, their only success metric is to justify a bigger budget to expand and grow. That justification can come by the use of propaganda.

Science is not a government agency. NASA is not a God.

Into the Night wrote:

GreenMan wrote:
If you think Climate Science needs debate, then why not debate the shape of the planet?

Did you know that scientists DO debate the shape of our planet? Even today?

Into the Night wrote:

GreenMan wrote:
I And he is correct in making that statement. The science behind Climate Change is as settled

Science is never settled. Science is a collection of falsifiable theories. Any one of them could be falsified tomorrow.

Into the Night wrote:

GreenMan wrote:
as the science that tells us the shape of the earth is spherical.

It isn't. Earth is fat around the middle. (must've eaten too many scientists).

Into the Night wrote:

GreenMan wrote:
So if arm chair scientists get to dispute/debate Climate Change science, why don't they get to dispute/debate the share of our planet?

Arm chair scientists study arm chairs, how to make them comfortable, how to build their mechanisms cheaper and more reliable, etc. They don't study either weather or the shape of planets.

'Climate change' is not a science. There is no theory based on something you can't define.

Into the Night wrote:

GreenMan wrote:
After all, it was just a mere 500 years ago that Europeans finally changed their official Flat Earth belief.

Compositional error.

1) Some Europeans still believe in a flat Earth.
2) The entirety of Europe did not suddenly change their view of Earth's shape at once.
3) You still apparently not aware of the shape of the Earth either.

Into the Night wrote:

GreenMan wrote:
Maybe the earth is flat, and the scientists who tell us otherwise are conspiring,

Kinda tough to say this on an internet that depends on satellites that orbit the Earth, doncha think?

Into the Night wrote:

GreenMan wrote:
like the climate scientists supposedly are.

There is no such thing as a climate 'scientist'. Climate is not a science. Climate 'scientists' do not use or create any science.

Into the Night wrote:

GreenMan wrote:
It looks pretty much flat to me, in places.

Go visit Florida. I hear the highest point in Florida is a basketball player that happens to live there.

Greenery wrote
The earth is round around the middle, dunce. It has a long, long, gentle curve to it, that eventually comes right back to where it started from. If it weren't for gravity, you could throw a rock and stand there, and it would eventually hit you in the back of the head. That ain't flat. If it was flat, the rock would keep going forever away from you.

GasGuzzler wrote:

Greenery wrote
The earth is round around the middle, dunce. It has a long, long, gentle curve to it, that eventually comes right back to where it started from. If it weren't for gravity, you could throw a rock and stand there, and it would eventually hit you in the back of the head. That ain't flat. If it was flat, the rock would keep going forever away from you.

This is all the proof I need to know that you're a spoon fed muffin man.
If there's no gravity, it wouldn't matter if you were standing on a triangle or a round planet, results of throwing a rock would be quite the same. Just saying...start thinking things through a bit instead of regurgitating what Racheal Madcow said on CNN last night. . Careful dude, there's a parrot killer out there.

GreenMan wrote:

Wake wrote:

GasGuzzler wrote:
This is not rocket science Spot....it's not even climate science.

Sometime soon you should ditch the entitlement attitude and grasp a shred of reality.

Not even a chance. The worst of the things that Obama did was to give a bully pulpit to the losers of this world that really believe that they are owed a living simply for expressing an opinion on something.

Look at jim acting like a 12 year old without the guts to so much as take criticism no matter how screwed up his ideas. Reading some article that he cannot understand and repeating terms from it as if they meant something that only he could understand. Bully? This jerk hasn't any idea what a bully is.

Greenman showed his entire worth with the screen name he chose - another high school student who actually thinks that he can bully those around him by repeating the true believer rant and astonished when anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of science knows better.

When my TDY was over in Vietnam I took a military flight to Okinawa. From there I took a commercial airline back to the States. There was me and another Air Force person - a 2nd Lt. and the rest of the flight was all Army returning from heavy combat.

When we got into LAX there were huge crowds of protesters carrying signs but they were screaming things like "Baby killers" and a whole lot worse. They were pushing in around us as the line of soldiers and we two AF were trying to get over to the luggage.

One of those shouting "Baby killers" spit on my uniform and I didn't even pause to think and punched him with a right hook. There was a large snap as his jaw broke and he went down like a sack of flour, out cold.

Two cops came running over towards me and stopped cold as they realized that they were surrounded by that entire plane load of soldiers mad as hell. They changed their minds and picked that sack of crap up and left with him.

That entire crowd pulled back realizing that they hadn't any idea that THEY might have been in personal danger. A vast silence settled over them and they stood back like the parting of the Red Sea to let us through to the baggage claim and out to our transports and buses. One of the soldiers walking next to me looked over and said, "You flyboys are OK".

A couple of nights ago there was a show on PBS that supposedly showed the protesters of the Vietnam War. It was a total re-writing of history. Why they were just protesting the war and not the soldiers themselves. These protesters weren't protesting the bringing in of the South Vietnamese who would have been slaughtered because they cooperated with us. This is what these jackasses think that they can get away with. This is the world of Obama and it isn't going to stand.

I went to see a talk given by Dr. Paul Erlich at Stanford and listened mouth ajar as he essentially said that most of this worlds population should be killed off so that the intellectual elite could have a yet better life. During the discussion period I asked him if he understood what he had just said and he said he knew very well.

This infection started with Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood. You need only look up some of the statements she not only said in public but wrote in her books to see her belief that most of the world doesn't deserve to live - only the white, intellectual elite.

Obama with his Marxism was exactly the same. First you give the world something to fear so that they put their trust in a large powerful government that will save you. And any government large and powerful enough to give you all you want is powerful enough to take all you have. And this has been shown time and time again throughout history.

All you're seeing from the True Believers here is their following like rats the Pied Piper who has every intentions of using them as nothing more than fodder. And not one of them is bright enough to know it.

Look at the news about Trump. Are you aware that most Presidents poll very badly in their first years in office? But the media is lying about this as they are everything else. They are nothing more than the propaganda wing of the Democrat party. The party of the KKK and the party of those who wanted to partner with Hitler. And they are blaming the Republicans for those very same things and the democrat rank and file don't even know enough history to know that.

Jim, Greenman, spot and the rest of the "environmentalists" are responsible for a very large amount of trouble in this world and by the time they know it they will have already victimized themselves.

But the rest of the country already know this. The US survived and attack that was the worst in its history and got away. Now we have to take care of those attackers.

Wake Me Up, you are showing how shallow your intellect really is, with posts like this. You have obviously never bothered to research the war you fought in, and you don't have a clue about how wrong it was that we were even there. The Viet Cong were fighting for their freedom from the French, which the South Vietnamese elite were in bed with, at the expense of their fellow citizens. Vietnam was a slave state to the French, basically. The Viet Cong kicked the French out. The French came to us for help. We helped them, even though they had a right to be rid of French control of their country. They were not interested in "coming over here." "We have to stop them there, before they come over here," was a major battle cry that went out from our idiot leaders, after they assassinated our last real leader, who would have gotten us out of the war before we ever really got in it.

And your story about getting off the plane and being met by protesters who spit on you is totally unbelievable. I believe there were protesters, as you say, but the part about you cold cocking the protester and then getting away with it because you were surrounded by others just doesn't add up to what the cops would have really done. They didn't let you go because they were outnumbered.

So do tell, dimwit, how do you figure that I am "responsible for a very large amount of trouble?" What kind of trouble would that be? Do you think that you are going to get taxed out of existence because of people like me? Is that what you are afraid of? Would you rather avoid your responsibility to future humans, and just continue destroying the world? Is that what you want to do? That's easier than changing your irresponsible ways, isn't it? Maybe if you whine enough, they will leave you alone, and let everyone else fix this problem we have created. Is that what you think will happen? Do you want to sit in the corner and let the big boys and girls fix it?

And which attack was the worst in American history? Are you talking about the WTC attack, or Pearl Harbor? I think we took care of the Japanese, so you must be talking about the WTC. That happened over a dozen years ago. So you think it's finally time to take care of the attackers, do you? Perhaps if we hadn't been led down the wrong path by our Republican president, who also let the attack happen due to negligence, we might have already taken care of the attackers. Instead, he decided to use the attack as an excuse to invade a country that had nothing to do with it. Then he finally went after the country that really was harboring terrorists, and still are, after 12 years of war. Of course, you can blame Obama for that, since you are a card carrying Republitard. But the truth is that the people in that region of the world have been fighting since the dawn of time, and no one has ever been able to put them down, permanently. Neither will we. They will bankrupt us just like they bankrupted the Russians. The only real solution to that problem is to bow out, and leave them alone to rule their own nations. If they want to destroy Israel, then let them, because they are right. Israel has no right to exist, especially in the middle of a Muslim controlled region. Israel should be given fair warning that we are intending to stop supporting them, so that they can migrate their asses elsewhere, before being destroyed. Of course, we could also just carpet bomb the entire Middle East, except for Israel. That would solve the problem too. And, we would have gotten those dirty scoundrels that brought down our pretty buildings, and killed all those people.

Oh yeah, what's wrong with my screen name? Do you have any idea why I chose that name? Google it, idiot.

GreenMan wrote:

Wake wrote:
The M16 could shoot at almost twice the fully automatic speed of the AK and was more reliable and shot straighter.

No it wasn't lol. Agreed that it was/is a nice weapon, but the AK beat it hands down as far as reliable. You can run over it with a Jeep, in the mud, and pick it up and shoot it. Try that with your jamming M16. And that part about it being twice the automatic speed. Great, but it didn't increase the kill affect. That's why they added star fire [I think that's what they called the 5 shot burst] to it. They discovered that emptying a clip quickly didn't really equate a better kill rate. Instead, it just meant that you ran out of ammo quicker, and therefore probably got killed.

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:
NASA is a government agency. Like all government agencies, their only success metric is to justify a bigger budget to expand and grow. That justification can come by the use of propaganda.

Science is not a government agency. NASA is not a God.

How does NASA being a government agency, with the desire to increase their take [an American right] by growing their agency equate to using propaganda that advances the Global Warming Hoax?

GreenMan wrote:
Logically speaking,

GreenMan wrote:
if they wanted to increase their worth, they would do the opposite of what they are doing, and tell the world what it wants to hear.

GreenMan wrote:
No one wants to hear that we are destroying the world, and that we have to pay more taxes now to clean it up.

GreenMan wrote:
That just doesn't make sense that we would reward them for misleading us into thinking that we are doing something wrong.

GreenMan wrote:
So why would they ever think that it would help them by doing so?

GreenMan wrote:
Oh yeah, can we see a show of hands of all those who think, or thought that Science is not a government agency?

GreenMan wrote:
And now, for those who think NASA is a God, please raise your hands.

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

GreenMan wrote:
If you think Climate Science needs debate, then why not debate the shape of the planet?

Did you know that scientists DO debate the shape of our planet? Even today?

Somehow I just can't imagine anyone debating the shape of our planet.

GreenMan wrote:
I can see discoveries made that alter what we thought we knew. And I can see how those discoveries might lead to ideas that are debated. But no, I don't see anyone debating that the earth is anything other than spherical [like a ball, in case I used the wrong word].

GreenMan wrote:
Perhaps you think they sit around debating if the sphere is a perfect sphere or not?

GreenMan wrote:
That implies that some actually think it is a perfect sphere. What else is there for them to debate? Do tell.

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

GreenMan wrote:
I And he is correct in making that statement. The science behind Climate Change is as settled

Science is never settled. Science is a collection of falsifiable theories. Any one of them could be falsified tomorrow.

You cut my sentence off,

GreenMan wrote:
just so you could try to make a point, didn't you.

GreenMan wrote:
Your point is mute,

GreenMan wrote:
if you include the rest of my sentence.

GreenMan wrote:
That makes you an "out of context liar."

GreenMan wrote:
Don't be taking me out of context no more, you goofy, lying, egotistical, full of yourself, proud AGW Denier Liar.

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

GreenMan wrote:
as the science that tells us the shape of the earth is spherical.

It isn't. Earth is fat around the middle. (must've eaten too many scientists).

The earth is round around the middle, dunce. It has a long, long, gentle curve to it, that eventually comes right back to where it started from. If it weren't for gravity, you could throw a rock and stand there, and it would eventually hit you in the back of the head. That ain't flat. If it was flat, the rock would keep going forever away from you.

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

GreenMan wrote:
So if arm chair scientists get to dispute/debate Climate Change science, why don't they get to dispute/debate the share of our planet?

Arm chair scientists study arm chairs, how to make them comfortable, how to build their mechanisms cheaper and more reliable, etc. They don't study either weather or the shape of planets.

'Climate change' is not a science. There is no theory based on something you can't define.

I seriously doubt that scientists design arm chairs.

GreenMan wrote:
That's just a simple engineering job.

GreenMan wrote:
And if there are scientists out there that do, I'm not talking about them.

GreenMan wrote:
I am talking about idiots like you, that try to make what you think are better decisions, or have more informed opinions than the guys who are actually getting paid to do the work.

GreenMan wrote:
Kinda like an arm chair quarterback, that could have thrown 15 touchdown passes, if they would have just let him play.

GreenMan wrote:
And there is a Global Warming Theory.

GreenMan wrote:
It, along with Climate Change is easily defined by someone who has a brain that works.

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

GreenMan wrote:
After all, it was just a mere 500 years ago that Europeans finally changed their official Flat Earth belief.

Compositional error.

1) Some Europeans still believe in a flat Earth.
2) The entirety of Europe did not suddenly change their view of Earth's shape at once.
3) You still apparently not aware of the shape of the Earth either.

You got me there, because I thought it was spherical. Please enlighten me, and probably everyone else, on what you think the shape of the earth is.

GreenMan wrote:
And yes they did suddenly change their view of Earth's shape at once.

GreenMan wrote:
It was all over the Internet when Columbus discovered America.

GreenMan wrote:
Actually, he just proved it.

GreenMan wrote:
Quite a lot of them already knew it.

GreenMan wrote:
Kinda like now, with all the Deniers.

GreenMan wrote:
You would have been a Flat Earther back then, holding on to your belief that the earth is flat, in spite of all the contradictory evidence.

GreenMan wrote:
You would have just claimed that the earth was longer than suspected, especially when you got a load of those Native Americans.

GreenMan wrote:
You would have been all over that. No way those were Indians, because you know what they look like. So you would have figured out real quick that Columbus didn't circumnavigate the globe and end up in India, as expected.

GreenMan wrote:
You and your kind would have been holding out until even after Magellan. Your claim about his voyage was that it was funded by the government, just to make life more difficult for you, and that it really didn't happen. He just turned around and came back, and went south around the bottom of the world, and then sailed north, so it would look like he had circumnavigated the planet.

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

GreenMan wrote:
Maybe the earth is flat, and the scientists who tell us otherwise are conspiring,

Kinda tough to say this on an internet that depends on satellites that orbit the Earth, doncha think?

Nah, what do satellites orbiting the earth have to do with my ability to speak?

GreenMan wrote:
Actually, I was making fun of you for being a moron that believes scientists are all in a big conspiracy to work against you.

They aren't. Scientists agree with me. I know of no scientist that denies the 2nd law of thermodynamics or the Stefan-Boltzmann law.

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

[quote]GreenMan wrote:
like the climate scientists supposedly are.

There is no such thing as a climate 'scientist'. Climate is not a science. Climate 'scientists' do not use or create any science.

You said there was no such thing as a climate scientist, and then said what they do. That means that you are a moron, in my opinion.

GreenMan wrote:
Not sure why you even bother to type some of the things you type. There are scientists who study the climate of our planet.

GreenMan wrote:
Call them what you will. I choose to call the Climate Scientists.

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

GreenMan wrote:
It looks pretty much flat to me, in places.

Go visit Florida. I hear the highest point in Florida is a basketball player that happens to live there.

Nah, I've been there. I know for certain that it is the Control Tower in Jacksonville's airport.

GasGuzzler wrote:

Greenery wrote
The earth is round around the middle, dunce. It has a long, long, gentle curve to it, that eventually comes right back to where it started from. If it weren't for gravity, you could throw a rock and stand there, and it would eventually hit you in the back of the head. That ain't flat. If it was flat, the rock would keep going forever away from you.

This is all the proof I need to know that you're a spoon fed muffin man.
If there's no gravity, it wouldn't matter if you were standing on a triangle or a round planet, results of throwing a rock would be quite the same. Just saying...start thinking things through a bit instead of regurgitating what Racheal Madcow said on CNN last night. . Careful dude, there's a parrot killer out there.

GreenMan wrote:

Wake wrote:

GasGuzzler wrote:
This is not rocket science Spot....it's not even climate science.

Sometime soon you should ditch the entitlement attitude and grasp a shred of reality.

Not even a chance. The worst of the things that Obama did was to give a bully pulpit to the losers of this world that really believe that they are owed a living simply for expressing an opinion on something.

Look at jim acting like a 12 year old without the guts to so much as take criticism no matter how screwed up his ideas. Reading some article that he cannot understand and repeating terms from it as if they meant something that only he could understand. Bully? This jerk hasn't any idea what a bully is.

Greenman showed his entire worth with the screen name he chose - another high school student who actually thinks that he can bully those around him by repeating the true believer rant and astonished when anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of science knows better.

When my TDY was over in Vietnam I took a military flight to Okinawa. From there I took a commercial airline back to the States. There was me and another Air Force person - a 2nd Lt. and the rest of the flight was all Army returning from heavy combat.

When we got into LAX there were huge crowds of protesters carrying signs but they were screaming things like "Baby killers" and a whole lot worse. They were pushing in around us as the line of soldiers and we two AF were trying to get over to the luggage.

One of those shouting "Baby killers" spit on my uniform and I didn't even pause to think and punched him with a right hook. There was a large snap as his jaw broke and he went down like a sack of flour, out cold.

Two cops came running over towards me and stopped cold as they realized that they were surrounded by that entire plane load of soldiers mad as hell. They changed their minds and picked that sack of crap up and left with him.

That entire crowd pulled back realizing that they hadn't any idea that THEY might have been in personal danger. A vast silence settled over them and they stood back like the parting of the Red Sea to let us through to the baggage claim and out to our transports and buses. One of the soldiers walking next to me looked over and said, "You flyboys are OK".

A couple of nights ago there was a show on PBS that supposedly showed the protesters of the Vietnam War. It was a total re-writing of history. Why they were just protesting the war and not the soldiers themselves. These protesters weren't protesting the bringing in of the South Vietnamese who would have been slaughtered because they cooperated with us. This is what these jackasses think that they can get away with. This is the world of Obama and it isn't going to stand.

I went to see a talk given by Dr. Paul Erlich at Stanford and listened mouth ajar as he essentially said that most of this worlds population should be killed off so that the intellectual elite could have a yet better life. During the discussion period I asked him if he understood what he had just said and he said he knew very well.

This infection started with Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood. You need only look up some of the statements she not only said in public but wrote in her books to see her belief that most of the world doesn't deserve to live - only the white, intellectual elite.

Obama with his Marxism was exactly the same. First you give the world something to fear so that they put their trust in a large powerful government that will save you. And any government large and powerful enough to give you all you want is powerful enough to take all you have. And this has been shown time and time again throughout history.

All you're seeing from the True Believers here is their following like rats the Pied Piper who has every intentions of using them as nothing more than fodder. And not one of them is bright enough to know it.

Look at the news about Trump. Are you aware that most Presidents poll very badly in their first years in office? But the media is lying about this as they are everything else. They are nothing more than the propaganda wing of the Democrat party. The party of the KKK and the party of those who wanted to partner with Hitler. And they are blaming the Republicans for those very same things and the democrat rank and file don't even know enough history to know that.

Jim, Greenman, spot and the rest of the "environmentalists" are responsible for a very large amount of trouble in this world and by the time they know it they will have already victimized themselves.

But the rest of the country already know this. The US survived and attack that was the worst in its history and got away. Now we have to take care of those attackers.

Wake Me Up, you are showing how shallow your intellect really is, with posts like this. You have obviously never bothered to research the war you fought in, and you don't have a clue about how wrong it was that we were even there. The Viet Cong were fighting for their freedom from the French, which the South Vietnamese elite were in bed with, at the expense of their fellow citizens. Vietnam was a slave state to the French, basically. The Viet Cong kicked the French out. The French came to us for help. We helped them, even though they had a right to be rid of French control of their country. They were not interested in "coming over here." "We have to stop them there, before they come over here," was a major battle cry that went out from our idiot leaders, after they assassinated our last real leader, who would have gotten us out of the war before we ever really got in it.

And your story about getting off the plane and being met by protesters who spit on you is totally unbelievable. I believe there were protesters, as you say, but the part about you cold cocking the protester and then getting away with it because you were surrounded by others just doesn't add up to what the cops would have really done. They didn't let you go because they were outnumbered.

So do tell, dimwit, how do you figure that I am "responsible for a very large amount of trouble?" What kind of trouble would that be? Do you think that you are going to get taxed out of existence because of people like me? Is that what you are afraid of? Would you rather avoid your responsibility to future humans, and just continue destroying the world? Is that what you want to do? That's easier than changing your irresponsible ways, isn't it? Maybe if you whine enough, they will leave you alone, and let everyone else fix this problem we have created. Is that what you think will happen? Do you want to sit in the corner and let the big boys and girls fix it?

And which attack was the worst in American history? Are you talking about the WTC attack, or Pearl Harbor? I think we took care of the Japanese, so you must be talking about the WTC. That happened over a dozen years ago. So you think it's finally time to take care of the attackers, do you? Perhaps if we hadn't been led down the wrong path by our Republican president, who also let the attack happen due to negligence, we might have already taken care of the attackers. Instead, he decided to use the attack as an excuse to invade a country that had nothing to do with it. Then he finally went after the country that really was harboring terrorists, and still are, after 12 years of war. Of course, you can blame Obama for that, since you are a card carrying Republitard. But the truth is that the people in that region of the world have been fighting since the dawn of time, and no one has ever been able to put them down, permanently. Neither will we. They will bankrupt us just like they bankrupted the Russians. The only real solution to that problem is to bow out, and leave them alone to rule their own nations. If they want to destroy Israel, then let them, because they are right. Israel has no right to exist, especially in the middle of a Muslim controlled region. Israel should be given fair warning that we are intending to stop supporting them, so that they can migrate their asses elsewhere, before being destroyed. Of course, we could also just carpet bomb the entire Middle East, except for Israel. That would solve the problem too. And, we would have gotten those dirty scoundrels that brought down our pretty buildings, and killed all those people.

Oh yeah, what's wrong with my screen name? Do you have any idea why I chose that name? Google it, idiot.

GreenMan wrote: Somehow I just can't imagine anyone debating the shape of our planet. I can see discoveries made that alter what we thought we knew. And I can see how those discoveries might lead to ideas that are debated. But no, I don't see anyone debating that the earth is anything other than spherical [like a ball, in case I used the wrong word]. Perhaps you think they sit around debating if the sphere is a perfect sphere or not? That implies that some actually think it is a perfect sphere. What else is there for them to debate? Do tell.

Wake wrote:

GreenMan wrote: Somehow I just can't imagine anyone debating the shape of our planet. I can see discoveries made that alter what we thought we knew. And I can see how those discoveries might lead to ideas that are debated. But no, I don't see anyone debating that the earth is anything other than spherical [like a ball, in case I used the wrong word]. Perhaps you think they sit around debating if the sphere is a perfect sphere or not? That implies that some actually think it is a perfect sphere. What else is there for them to debate? Do tell.

I do not find it at all surprising that you are unaware that the Earth is an oblate spheroid and that there is no discussion by scientists about that.

Wake wrote:
The precise shape is open to direct measurements.
Save that it changes all the time and that has to be accounted for with navigation satellites.

Into the Night wrote:

Wake wrote:

GreenMan wrote: Somehow I just can't imagine anyone debating the shape of our planet. I can see discoveries made that alter what we thought we knew. And I can see how those discoveries might lead to ideas that are debated. But no, I don't see anyone debating that the earth is anything other than spherical [like a ball, in case I used the wrong word]. Perhaps you think they sit around debating if the sphere is a perfect sphere or not? That implies that some actually think it is a perfect sphere. What else is there for them to debate? Do tell.

I do not find it at all surprising that you are unaware that the Earth is an oblate spheroid and that there is no discussion by scientists about that.

There is, but it how much distortion there is from the sphere, where it is occurring, by how much, and what is the cause.

Wake wrote:
The precise shape is open to direct measurements.
Save that it changes all the time and that has to be accounted for with navigation satellites.

Welcome to your new paradox. Direct measurements are not possible with something that is changing shape.

Wake wrote:

GreenMan wrote:

Wake wrote:

GasGuzzler wrote:
This is not rocket science Spot....it's not even climate science.

Sometime soon you should ditch the entitlement attitude and grasp a shred of reality.

Not even a chance. The worst of the things that Obama did was to give a bully pulpit to the losers of this world that really believe that they are owed a living simply for expressing an opinion on something.

Look at jim acting like a 12 year old without the guts to so much as take criticism no matter how screwed up his ideas. Reading some article that he cannot understand and repeating terms from it as if they meant something that only he could understand. Bully? This jerk hasn't any idea what a bully is.

Greenman showed his entire worth with the screen name he chose - another high school student who actually thinks that he can bully those around him by repeating the true believer rant and astonished when anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of science knows better.

When my TDY was over in Vietnam I took a military flight to Okinawa. From there I took a commercial airline back to the States. There was me and another Air Force person - a 2nd Lt. and the rest of the flight was all Army returning from heavy combat.

When we got into LAX there were huge crowds of protesters carrying signs but they were screaming things like "Baby killers" and a whole lot worse. They were pushing in around us as the line of soldiers and we two AF were trying to get over to the luggage.

One of those shouting "Baby killers" spit on my uniform and I didn't even pause to think and punched him with a right hook. There was a large snap as his jaw broke and he went down like a sack of flour, out cold.

Two cops came running over towards me and stopped cold as they realized that they were surrounded by that entire plane load of soldiers mad as hell. They changed their minds and picked that sack of crap up and left with him.

That entire crowd pulled back realizing that they hadn't any idea that THEY might have been in personal danger. A vast silence settled over them and they stood back like the parting of the Red Sea to let us through to the baggage claim and out to our transports and buses. One of the soldiers walking next to me looked over and said, "You flyboys are OK".

A couple of nights ago there was a show on PBS that supposedly showed the protesters of the Vietnam War. It was a total re-writing of history. Why they were just protesting the war and not the soldiers themselves. These protesters weren't protesting the bringing in of the South Vietnamese who would have been slaughtered because they cooperated with us. This is what these jackasses think that they can get away with. This is the world of Obama and it isn't going to stand.

I went to see a talk given by Dr. Paul Erlich at Stanford and listened mouth ajar as he essentially said that most of this worlds population should be killed off so that the intellectual elite could have a yet better life. During the discussion period I asked him if he understood what he had just said and he said he knew very well.

This infection started with Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood. You need only look up some of the statements she not only said in public but wrote in her books to see her belief that most of the world doesn't deserve to live - only the white, intellectual elite.

Obama with his Marxism was exactly the same. First you give the world something to fear so that they put their trust in a large powerful government that will save you. And any government large and powerful enough to give you all you want is powerful enough to take all you have. And this has been shown time and time again throughout history.

All you're seeing from the True Believers here is their following like rats the Pied Piper who has every intentions of using them as nothing more than fodder. And not one of them is bright enough to know it.

Look at the news about Trump. Are you aware that most Presidents poll very badly in their first years in office? But the media is lying about this as they are everything else. They are nothing more than the propaganda wing of the Democrat party. The party of the KKK and the party of those who wanted to partner with Hitler. And they are blaming the Republicans for those very same things and the democrat rank and file don't even know enough history to know that.

Jim, Greenman, spot and the rest of the "environmentalists" are responsible for a very large amount of trouble in this world and by the time they know it they will have already victimized themselves.

But the rest of the country already know this. The US survived and attack that was the worst in its history and got away. Now we have to take care of those attackers.

Wake Me Up, you are showing how shallow your intellect really is, with posts like this. You have obviously never bothered to research the war you fought in, and you don't have a clue about how wrong it was that we were even there. The Viet Cong were fighting for their freedom from the French, which the South Vietnamese elite were in bed with, at the expense of their fellow citizens. Vietnam was a slave state to the French, basically. The Viet Cong kicked the French out. The French came to us for help. We helped them, even though they had a right to be rid of French control of their country. They were not interested in "coming over here." "We have to stop them there, before they come over here," was a major battle cry that went out from our idiot leaders, after they assassinated our last real leader, who would have gotten us out of the war before we ever really got in it.

And your story about getting off the plane and being met by protesters who spit on you is totally unbelievable. I believe there were protesters, as you say, but the part about you cold cocking the protester and then getting away with it because you were surrounded by others just doesn't add up to what the cops would have really done. They didn't let you go because they were outnumbered.

So do tell, dimwit, how do you figure that I am "responsible for a very large amount of trouble?" What kind of trouble would that be? Do you think that you are going to get taxed out of existence because of people like me? Is that what you are afraid of? Would you rather avoid your responsibility to future humans, and just continue destroying the world? Is that what you want to do? That's easier than changing your irresponsible ways, isn't it? Maybe if you whine enough, they will leave you alone, and let everyone else fix this problem we have created. Is that what you think will happen? Do you want to sit in the corner and let the big boys and girls fix it?

And which attack was the worst in American history? Are you talking about the WTC attack, or Pearl Harbor? I think we took care of the Japanese, so you must be talking about the WTC. That happened over a dozen years ago. So you think it's finally time to take care of the attackers, do you? Perhaps if we hadn't been led down the wrong path by our Republican president, who also let the attack happen due to negligence, we might have already taken care of the attackers. Instead, he decided to use the attack as an excuse to invade a country that had nothing to do with it. Then he finally went after the country that really was harboring terrorists, and still are, after 12 years of war. Of course, you can blame Obama for that, since you are a card carrying Republitard. But the truth is that the people in that region of the world have been fighting since the dawn of time, and no one has ever been able to put them down, permanently. Neither will we. They will bankrupt us just like they bankrupted the Russians. The only real solution to that problem is to bow out, and leave them alone to rule their own nations. If they want to destroy Israel, then let them, because they are right. Israel has no right to exist, especially in the middle of a Muslim controlled region. Israel should be given fair warning that we are intending to stop supporting them, so that they can migrate their asses elsewhere, before being destroyed. Of course, we could also just carpet bomb the entire Middle East, except for Israel. That would solve the problem too. And, we would have gotten those dirty scoundrels that brought down our pretty buildings, and killed all those people.

Oh yeah, what's wrong with my screen name? Do you have any idea why I chose that name? Google it, idiot.

Tell you what scum bucket - I was born just shortly after Pearl Harbor and it was fresh in everyone's mind. I don't have to read some left wing politicized book about it. I knew people who were there. I ride bikes with one every Saturday. I grew up with my best friend who grew up in those fine concentration camps that that fine Democrat Franklin Roosevelt put all Japanese/Americans in. Not ONE SINGLE Japanese was ever found to commit any treasonous act. But the Democrats and their non-racist policies put every single Japanese into these things. My friend's father died in there. In his 30's without proper medical care.

I remember 9/11 and heard the people talking about it being the CIA blowing these buildings up. That sounds like your sort of intellect.

But NONE of this so much as held a candle to Obama. He had dictatorship almost within his grasp. A couple more seats in Congress and you'd be nothing more than a slave today.

Global Warming? Nothing more than a ploy that followed Lenin and Marx theories almost to the letter. On every possible front give the population something to fear so that you as a government are given enough power to SAVE THE DAY.

And then any government large enough to give you anything you want is more than large enough to take everything you have.

And you aren't smart enough to know just how close you came. You don't know that Obama's "majority" at least in his second term was voter fraud. That of the 36 states that have returned voter statistics 6 1/2 million people in heavily Democrat areas didn't exist. And this is despite the fact that in the areas most heavily Democrat voters they did not return voter registration statistics.

You came within a hairs breadth of losing your freedom and are too stupid to even know it.

You chose that name because all the other kids were doing it. You are an ass.

Wake wrote:

GreenMan wrote: Somehow I just can't imagine anyone debating the shape of our planet. I can see discoveries made that alter what we thought we knew. And I can see how those discoveries might lead to ideas that are debated. But no, I don't see anyone debating that the earth is anything other than spherical [like a ball, in case I used the wrong word]. Perhaps you think they sit around debating if the sphere is a perfect sphere or not? That implies that some actually think it is a perfect sphere. What else is there for them to debate? Do tell.

I do not find it at all surprising that you are unaware that the Earth is an oblate spheroid and that there is no discussion by scientists about that.

The precise shape is open to direct measurements. Save that it changes all the time and that has to be accounted for with navigation satellites.

But then you think the Earth is a perfect sphere.

GasGuzzler wrote:

Greenery wrote
The earth is round around the middle, dunce. It has a long, long, gentle curve to it, that eventually comes right back to where it started from. If it weren't for gravity, you could throw a rock and stand there, and it would eventually hit you in the back of the head. That ain't flat. If it was flat, the rock would keep going forever away from you.

This is all the proof I need to know that you're a spoon fed muffin man.
If there's no gravity, it wouldn't matter if you were standing on a triangle or a round planet, results of throwing a rock would be quite the same. Just saying...start thinking things through a bit instead of regurgitating what Racheal Madcow said on CNN last night. . Careful dude, there's a parrot killer out there.