Prepping for the Carbon Apocalipse...

HarveyH55 wrote:
Climate Change gives me a bad feeling, but not in a scientific sense, more political/economic. Our government seems to be trending toward green, and not the paper money kind. I expect there is going to be some rough years soon, while this thing gets battled out.

I'm guessing the democrats don't want to spend $5.6 billion on a border wall, because they need the southern vote (once they get their papers), and they want to use that money for green-things. The President promised a wall, so it's a strong deal maker, for something nobody really wants (higher taxes). I expect some protesting, rioting, looting, lot of senseless violence, vandalism.

I've never had much interest in prepping for anything. I'm more inclined to look around, and make do with what's available. Unfortunately, I'd expect some shortages, as panicked people buy up all they can, and hoard. Happens often enough around here, most any hurricane that might make landfall. It's sort of crazy, since at most, you only need a few days after the storm passes, even if it's bad, there are supplies made available.

Think a few guns, and plenty of ammunition would be a good start, for self defense, and for hunting up some food. I've see a lot of advertisements for survival food, with a 25 year shelf life, but a little skeptical. Even if you could eat it, and keep it down, not sure how much nutritional value would be left, after a year or two. Plus, you would need water to mix it with. Water is plentiful around here, little concerned about it being safe drinking water though.

HarveyH55 wrote:
Climate Change gives me a bad feeling, but not in a scientific sense, more political/economic. Our government seems to be trending toward green, and not the paper money kind. I expect there is going to be some rough years soon, while this thing gets battled out.

I'm guessing the democrats don't want to spend $5.6 billion on a border wall, because they need the southern vote (once they get their papers), and they want to use that money for green-things. The President promised a wall, so it's a strong deal maker, for something nobody really wants (higher taxes). I expect some protesting, rioting, looting, lot of senseless violence, vandalism.

I've never had much interest in prepping for anything. I'm more inclined to look around, and make do with what's available. Unfortunately, I'd expect some shortages, as panicked people buy up all they can, and hoard. Happens often enough around here, most any hurricane that might make landfall. It's sort of crazy, since at most, you only need a few days after the storm passes, even if it's bad, there are supplies made available.

Think a few guns, and plenty of ammunition would be a good start, for self defense, and for hunting up some food. I've see a lot of advertisements for survival food, with a 25 year shelf life, but a little skeptical. Even if you could eat it, and keep it down, not sure how much nutritional value would be left, after a year or two. Plus, you would need water to mix it with. Water is plentiful around here, little concerned about it being safe drinking water though.

Wake wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
Climate Change gives me a bad feeling, but not in a scientific sense, more political/economic. Our government seems to be trending toward green, and not the paper money kind. I expect there is going to be some rough years soon, while this thing gets battled out.

I'm guessing the democrats don't want to spend $5.6 billion on a border wall, because they need the southern vote (once they get their papers), and they want to use that money for green-things. The President promised a wall, so it's a strong deal maker, for something nobody really wants (higher taxes). I expect some protesting, rioting, looting, lot of senseless violence, vandalism.

I've never had much interest in prepping for anything. I'm more inclined to look around, and make do with what's available. Unfortunately, I'd expect some shortages, as panicked people buy up all they can, and hoard. Happens often enough around here, most any hurricane that might make landfall. It's sort of crazy, since at most, you only need a few days after the storm passes, even if it's bad, there are supplies made available.

Think a few guns, and plenty of ammunition would be a good start, for self defense, and for hunting up some food. I've see a lot of advertisements for survival food, with a 25 year shelf life, but a little skeptical. Even if you could eat it, and keep it down, not sure how much nutritional value would be left, after a year or two. Plus, you would need water to mix it with. Water is plentiful around here, little concerned about it being safe drinking water though.

There is no global warming.

Wake wrote:
The entire "science" behind it is fake.

Wake wrote:
What is going to occur is that the new Attorney General is going to start bringing the so-called scientists that used this BS to obtain sometimes extremely large research grants for it to a Grand Jury and thereafter to a real trial.

Dr. Tim Ball proved in a Canadian court that Dr. Michael Mann defrauded science with his hockey stick. They have the emails where they were discussing how to phony the results, "We just have to lose the Medieval Warm Period." Followed by that entire several hundreds of years disappearing from the data sets.

Many other people such as Al Gore have also defrauded Americans and should be also tried. Let's see him explaining to a jury of his piers how he first went around saying that we were dropping into another ice age followed by we were going to cook to death in runaway heating.

The entire recoverable history of the Earth has shown us that the total MGT has only changed 3 degrees C

Wake wrote:
because of KNOWN feedback mechanisms in atmosphere.

Wake wrote:
Furhtermore Cook had to withdraw his paper after it was shown that his 97% of all scientist turned out to be really 0.3%. The lies of these people are endless.

Wake wrote:
So say this is a hoax would indicate that there was an component of joke in it. There was none - this was purposeful criminal acts that should be punished.

Into the Night wrote:

Wake wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:
Climate Change gives me a bad feeling, but not in a scientific sense, more political/economic. Our government seems to be trending toward green, and not the paper money kind. I expect there is going to be some rough years soon, while this thing gets battled out.

I'm guessing the democrats don't want to spend $5.6 billion on a border wall, because they need the southern vote (once they get their papers), and they want to use that money for green-things. The President promised a wall, so it's a strong deal maker, for something nobody really wants (higher taxes). I expect some protesting, rioting, looting, lot of senseless violence, vandalism.

I've never had much interest in prepping for anything. I'm more inclined to look around, and make do with what's available. Unfortunately, I'd expect some shortages, as panicked people buy up all they can, and hoard. Happens often enough around here, most any hurricane that might make landfall. It's sort of crazy, since at most, you only need a few days after the storm passes, even if it's bad, there are supplies made available.

Think a few guns, and plenty of ammunition would be a good start, for self defense, and for hunting up some food. I've see a lot of advertisements for survival food, with a 25 year shelf life, but a little skeptical. Even if you could eat it, and keep it down, not sure how much nutritional value would be left, after a year or two. Plus, you would need water to mix it with. Water is plentiful around here, little concerned about it being safe drinking water though.

There is no global warming.

Then why do you keep saying there is???

Wake wrote:
The entire "science" behind it is fake.

Yet YOU use the same 'science' to try to show CO2 warms the Earth. WTF???

Wake wrote:
What is going to occur is that the new Attorney General is going to start bringing the so-called scientists that used this BS to obtain sometimes extremely large research grants for it to a Grand Jury and thereafter to a real trial.

Dr. Tim Ball proved in a Canadian court that Dr. Michael Mann defrauded science with his hockey stick. They have the emails where they were discussing how to phony the results, "We just have to lose the Medieval Warm Period." Followed by that entire several hundreds of years disappearing from the data sets.

Many other people such as Al Gore have also defrauded Americans and should be also tried. Let's see him explaining to a jury of his piers how he first went around saying that we were dropping into another ice age followed by we were going to cook to death in runaway heating.

The entire recoverable history of the Earth has shown us that the total MGT has only changed 3 degrees C

It's not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth, Wake.

Wake wrote:
because of KNOWN feedback mechanisms in atmosphere.

There are no 'feedback' mechanisms that warm the Earth, Wake.

Wake wrote:
Furhtermore Cook had to withdraw his paper after it was shown that his 97% of all scientist turned out to be really 0.3%. The lies of these people are endless.

Actually, it has not been shown at all. Following Cook's math (and assuming his 'data' is correct, which he never showed), it was 97% of 37% of the papers examined, or less than 37%. There is data shown for the study, so Cook is using random numbers to begin with as raw data.

Wake wrote:
So say this is a hoax would indicate that there was an component of joke in it. There was none - this was purposeful criminal acts that should be punished.

Under what law?

Freedom of religious beliefs are protected under the Constitution of the United States, Wake.

HarveyH55 wrote:
We can only hope for swift justice, but that doesn't happen often in these United States. There are a whole lot of believers, who made a huge investment in faith. Won't be easy to set them right, some will die, rather than admit they were fools. Some will probably die, before they can testify. Democratic politicians, are almost always lawyers first, professional liers, who know the legal line pretty well, and just how close they can walk it to steal, without actually breaking the law. Pretty sure they can drag it out for many years, and still keep operating as usual. Committing a crime, and proving criminal intent, is going to be tough. Some of them knew, and were deeply involved, but I'm sure they have a plan to deal with squealers, leakers, and legal actions. It's more of a cult, the top dogs are the criminals, but the ones a little lower, will protect the cause. Look at Trump, even though there is nothing showing collusion, or even a campaign crime, the Dems may keep the case going the whole 4 years, least into the re-election campaign. There probably is a whole lot of unrelated dirt, don't think Trump is any saint, otherwise he would be pushing them to wrap it up. A few months should have been plenty of time. Think we'll find the Dems are heavily involved in Climate Change fraud as well. Criminals don't investigate themselves. It's probably the biggest, nastiest scandal, America has ever been involved in, and there will be a lot of them pushing for a quiet resolution, an easy way out, as not to embarrass the country, like it still matters.

I've got a hunch Trump's wall and the shut down, show down is a huge bargaining chip. They want something huge, for that wall money. Surprisingly, we seldom hear about Bill Clinton built some border wall. George W. Bush put in some fence, and was suppose to do the whole border, but some more pressing matter happened. Even Barrack Obama was a wall builder, we see some of his work on TV almost daily lately, down at Tijuana. Clearly, the Dems are abusing their power. Wonder if that's an impeachable offense...

Wake wrote:
Are your eyes rolling in your head at this stage as well? When you are this sick you should reach out to the medical profession.

HarveyH55 wrote:
I'm wondering if 2019 is going to be the year Trump gets to work, play time is over.

HarveyH55 wrote:
He's pretty much let the Dems walk all over everything he's tried to do for this country.

HarveyH55 wrote:
Hopefully, he uses his time before the next election to show who real is in charge, and how the country should be run.

HarveyH55 wrote:
Think if he can get the wall built,

HarveyH55 wrote:
kill climate change,

HarveyH55 wrote:
and get the trade deals finalized,

HarveyH55 wrote:
he won't see much competition in the 2020 run.

HarveyH55 wrote:
Once the RussiaGate is proven to be a waste of time and resources,

HarveyH55 wrote:
maybe he can finally talk with Russia,

HarveyH55 wrote:
and get a few things straightened out with them.

HarveyH55 wrote:
We don't need to be best friends with them, but things would go a lot smoother if we weren't working against each other.

HarveyH55 wrote:
I really don't understand the border problem. These caravans of thousands of people, lining up at our border, waiting to invade, is not a crisis?

HarveyH55 wrote:
Not an act of war? So, they aren't armed, or killing, doesn't mean they aren't going to cause harm.

HarveyH55 wrote:
They come, with just what they can carry, have no food, jobs, or housing waiting for them.

HarveyH55 wrote:
While our border people are kept busy with the main group, how protected is the rest of the border?

HarveyH55 wrote:
Those large groups, are likely decoys, and the bad ones or sneaking over easier, in the usual ways, in larger numbers.

HarveyH55 wrote:
We have no way of knowing who, or how many, until there is trouble.

HarveyH55 wrote:
Climate changes are going to happen overnight, nor is it guaranteed to run as predicted, even the IPCC isn't that commited. These are possible scenarios, and what can/might happen, on every prediction. They claim the changes will come over decades, no way to stop or reverse them, only maybe slow it down some. Decades seem slow enough, not a crisis issue, we can deal with and problem as they come, as we always have, and done well enough. Tragedies happen almost everyday, people die (we all will, eventually, for one reason or another), makes no sense to obsess over when or how. Nobody will live forever, sort of pointless trying to prevent events, that probably won't happen, or make much difference in the long run.