Positives on Global Warming

Ceist wrote:
I would be very happy for IBdaMned and Into the Dark to prove me wrong and provide us all with a list of all the 'authoritative science sources' they have used to support their batshit-crazy scientifically illiterate junk-science claims.

However I suspect we'll be waiting till the 12th of Never.

Earthling wrote:

Into the Night wrote:You seem to have spent almost all your time on this forum nursing your hatred of anything outside your Religion. All you have contributed are baseless accusations, twisted wording, outright lies, and character assassinations without end. It must really suck to be you.

I see that you no longer reserve your rants for Russel's cesspool.
Are your outbursts worthwhile?

spot wrote: seriously there is no dispute about the trend in sea levels except amongst wilfully ignorant liars on the internet

Ceist wrote: I would be very happy for IBdaMned and Into the Dark to prove me wrong

Ceist wrote: and provide us all with a list of all the 'authoritative science sources' ...

IBdaMann wrote:

spot wrote: seriously there is no dispute about the trend in sea levels except amongst wilfully ignorant liars on the internet

Of course. This is "settled science" right?

We are not to question what we are told to believe, right?

Seriously, there is no dispute about the trend in sea levels among warmizombies and the scientifically illiterate, right?

Science is all about obediently embracing the conclusions you are ordered to regurgitate, right?


What a gullible moron you are. I'm glad I'm not living in your world of hurt.


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spot wrote: And there are people who think that 911 was done by the Jews with space lasers, they are free to believe what they wish, even though it's absurd.

spot wrote:
You're the one thinking that NASA, NOAA Victorian scientists, the Royal Academy, High School Teachers the Mythbusters Team, to name a few are in on some vast conspiracy to fool people and and only you and a handful of people on the internet have superior knowledge of the LAWS OF PHYSICS that you can't express in a way that makes sense to anyone with training in physics.

You also call people Warmizombies whilst that's amusing it doesn't help if you want to be taken seriously

I'll leave it for an exercise for the reader to tell who is the Looney.

Tai Hai Chen wrote:

spot wrote:
You're the one thinking that NASA, NOAA Victorian scientists, the Royal Academy, High School Teachers the Mythbusters Team, to name a few are in on some vast conspiracy to fool people and and only you and a handful of people on the internet have superior knowledge of the LAWS OF PHYSICS that you can't express in a way that makes sense to anyone with training in physics.

You also call people Warmizombies whilst that's amusing it doesn't help if you want to be taken seriously

I'll leave it for an exercise for the reader to tell who is the Looney.

What about Chinese and Indian and Russian scientists? They don't believe in global warming. In terms of numbers, they make up the vast majority of the world's scientists.

spot wrote:

Tai Hai Chen wrote:

spot wrote:
You're the one thinking that NASA, NOAA Victorian scientists, the Royal Academy, High School Teachers the Mythbusters Team, to name a few are in on some vast conspiracy to fool people and and only you and a handful of people on the internet have superior knowledge of the LAWS OF PHYSICS that you can't express in a way that makes sense to anyone with training in physics.

You also call people Warmizombies whilst that's amusing it doesn't help if you want to be taken seriously

I'll leave it for an exercise for the reader to tell who is the Looney.

What about Chinese and Indian and Russian scientists? They don't believe in global warming. In terms of numbers, they make up the vast majority of the world's scientists.

Well you might have a point if it weren't complete and utter bollox.

http://opr.ca.gov/s_listoforganizations.php

spot wrote: You're the one thinking that NASA, NOAA Victorian scientists, the Royal Academy, High School Teachers the Mythbusters Team, to name a few are in on some vast conspiracy to fool people...

spot wrote: ... and and only you and a handful of people on the internet have superior knowledge of the LAWS OF PHYSICS that you can't express in a way that makes sense to anyone with training in physics.

spot wrote: You also call people Warmizombies whilst that's amusing it doesn't help if you want to be taken seriously

Tai Hai Chen wrote: What about Chinese and Indian and Russian scientists? They don't believe in global warming. In terms of numbers, they make up the vast majority of the world's scientists.

Into the Night wrote:
Science organizations are political groups. Any opinion put out by them does not necessarily represent the opinion of all the members of that group. You are making the Consensus argument again through the use of a compositional fallacy.

Into the Night wrote:
I am well aware of the science literacy of your average high school science teacher. They are the reason so many people are so confused by Global Warming and science in general.

Into the Night wrote:
Mythbusters are special effects experts with a penchant for explosives and ballastics. They are not scientists. Many of their conclusions have been just flat wrong. They are not a science source at all.

Into the Night wrote:
NASA and NOAA are government agencies, subservient to the government agenda. Individual weather station logs are not as easily corruptible as the central data schlock they come up with. They are telling quite a different story than NOAA itself.

Into the Night wrote:

You cannot speak for Victorian scientists (or anybody else for that matter). You seem unaware of what they said that blows Global Warming models away.

Into the Night wrote:

Your use of the Royal Academy is particularly hilarious. There isn't one.

Stormy wrote:
Seriously, get rid of this guy. There is no reason to allow IBdaMann to post here. All he does is attack people and for what? What does he do all day? What is he hoping to achieve? Please MAC ban this peanut!

spot wrote: It must of been a job to to get them all to agree to something that isen't true

spot wrote: this would have been obvious to the people doing the experiment, for them to get it as wrong as you say they did they must have known and lied to the public.

Into the Night wrote: We are disscussing the fundemental laws of physics.

Into the Night wrote:
I cant speak for them nobody can they are dead, but anyone can read what they wrote, I allready linked Tyndall.

Into the Night wrote:
If some other scientist found something that blows Global warming models away then it was off the record.

Into the Night wrote: All these people out to fool us is extreamly unlikely...

IBdaMann wrote:

spot wrote: It must of been a job to to get them all to agree to something that isen't true

Money does that.

spot wrote: this would have been obvious to the people doing the experiment, for them to get it as wrong as you say they did they must have known and lied to the public.

MythBusters is for entertainment purposes only. One would have to be extremely gullible and prone to believe the sensational (i.e. their target audience) to believe the show follows the scientific method.

Into the Night wrote: We are disscussing the fundemental laws of physics.

I don't recall you ever discussing any laws of physics. It would be humorous if you were to try, seeing as how your level of understanding makes you believe whatever mythbusters tells you to believe.

Into the Night wrote:
I cant speak for them nobody can they are dead, but anyone can read what they wrote, I allready linked Tyndall.

...and Tyndall has long since been shown to have been mistaken on this particular topic. You never got the memo.

Into the Night wrote:
If some other scientist found something that blows Global warming models away then it was off the record.

Global Warming is a religion. It is completely unfalsifiable, like Christianity. No one can "blow Global Warming models away" any more than anyone can blow away Christianity.

Into the Night wrote: All these people out to fool us is extreamly unlikely...

The likelihood of someone making a fool out gullible people is very high. Gullible people are always targeted by the unscrupulous. It happens every day. High-pressure sales pitches are tailored specifically for this.

Someone sure duped you on Global Warming.


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Into the Night wrote:
I never said any of these quotes. Spot did.

IBdaMann wrote:

Money does that.

IBdaMann wrote:
MythBusters is for entertainment purposes only. One would have to be extremely gullible and prone to believe the sensational (i.e. their target audience) to believe the show follows the scientific method.

IBdaMann wrote:
I don't recall you ever discussing any laws of physics. It would be humorous if you were to try, seeing as how your level of understanding makes you believe whatever mythbusters tells you to believe.

IBdaMann wrote:
...and Tyndall has long since been shown to have been mistaken on this particular topic. You never got the memo.

IBdaMann wrote:
Global Warming is a religion. It is completely unfalsifiable, like Christianity. No one can "blow Global Warming models away" any more than anyone can blow away Christianity.

IBdaMann wrote:The likelihood of someone making a fool out gullible people is very high. Gullible people are always targeted by the unscrupulous. It happens every day. High-pressure sales pitches are tailored specifically for this.

Someone sure duped you on Global Warming.
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spot wrote: So It's a conspiracy then

spot wrote: It's popular science they arent saying anything radical with that particular experiment, they are doing the same experiment we discussed, the same experiment the Tyndell did just a bit bigger and in mythbusters style, Don't flatter yourself it's basic stuff we are arguing over.

spot wrote: I think we have been over this; the laws of physics are universal they apply to kitchen tables, television studios, labs as much as they apply to the atmosphere of Titan, Venus, Mars and of course Earth. that's the point I was making.

spot wrote: Nobody got the memo there wasn't one.

spot wrote: You're confused about simple english words again, whatever it is we are arguing over it isn't religion,

spot wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:
Global Warming is a religion. It is completely unfalsifiable, like Christianity. No one can "blow Global Warming models away" any more than anyone can blow away Christianity.

You're confused about simple english words again, whatever it is we are arguing over it isn't religion, if it were all of astrophysics would be religion for example, how does anyone know black holes actually exist?

And the phrase "blowing Global Warming models away" was used by your twin so take it up with him.

IBdaMann wrote:
I use the word collusion.

IBdaMann wrote:
It's not science. It's a parlor trick. Do you think a magician actually performs a miracle and makes a rabbit come into existence out of nothing or do you understand that there's a trick to it all?

IBdaMann wrote:Magicians normally don't try to push illogical beliefs upon their audiences after performing tricks but you're telling me that if someone were to perform that particular light-CO2 trick for you then s/he would be able to dupe you into believing that CO2 warms the atmosphere rather than the correct, simple explanation that CO2's absorption signature contains the IR band of the light.

That's not something of which to be proud.

IBdaMann wrote:
So you acknowledge that the laws of physics apply always, yes? You'll join me in chastising those who make desperately lame excuses like "The 2nd LoT doesn't apply to the earth because it's not a closed system," "Planck's Law only applies to ideal black bodies which don't exist," etc..., yes?

IBdaMann wrote:
This topic has been covered extensively. I'm not interested in rehashing it completely, so I'll give you the basics.

1. Tyndall was not perfect; he made errors. In this particular case he merely was mistaken about a speculation.

2. Science evolves. That which was once considered science becomes falsified and is either corrected or discarded.

3. Tyndall published papers on his speculations. You dug up one in which he was mistaken. That's why his particular work that you are referencing never survived the scientific method and was never included in the body of science.

Please feel free to verify the above.

IBdaMann wrote:
How is Global Warming more scientific that Christianity? Specifics, please.

spot wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:
It's not science. It's a parlor trick. Do you think a magician actually performs a miracle and makes a rabbit come into existence out of nothing or do you understand that there's a trick to it all?

No its a demonstration of long known principles in chemistry, The word trick as your useing this implies something deliberately done to fool people. your having that trouble with commonly used english words again.

spot wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:
How is Global Warming more scientific that Christianity? Specifics, please.

Why am I wasting my time explaining simple concepts to you, It makes suppositions that can be tested, such as the test I invited you to do, The test I did like the mythbusters team tested and Tyndall tested all those years ago. your inability to understand is not my problem.