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"It's the sun!" was refuted more than 20 years ago

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Desertphile	"It's the sun!" was refuted more than 20 years ago
Posts: 30 Joined: 15.02.11	Posted on 15-02-2011 03:05
Posts: 30 Joined: 15.02.11	Solar irradiance data: yhttp://www.mps.mpg.de/projects/sun-climate/data/tsi_1611.txt ftp://ftp.pmodwrc.ch/pub/data/irradiance/composite/DataPlots/composite_d41_62_1009.dat Global temperature data: http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt
Hayduke	RE: Solar influence
Posts: 23 Location: Santa Cruz, California Joined: 15.02.11	Posted on 15-02-2011 17:31
Posts: 23 Location: Santa Cruz, California Joined: 15.02.11	There is much more to the sun's effect on Earth climate than irradiance. This is merely a straw dog to draw attention away from the real influence of cosmic cycles. See the work of Akasofu, for example.
Desertphile	RE: "It's the sun!" was refuted more than 20 years ago
Posts: 30 Joined: 15.02.11	Posted on 15-02-2011 20:08
Posts: 30 Joined: 15.02.11	Hayduke wrote: There is much more to the sun's effect on Earth climate than irradiance. This is merely a straw dog to draw attention away from the real influence of cosmic cycles. See the work of Akasofu, for example. The hypothesis "it's cosmic rays" was refuted more than eight years ago. THE TROPOSPHERE IS HEATING WHILE THE STRATOSPHERE IS COOLING. Sheeesh. The atmosphere even heats more at night than it used to several decades ago. Only greenhouse gases explain these facts: cosmic rays do not. A few peer-reviewed science papers published in refereed science journals that show cosmic rays did not and are not causing the current unprecedented rate of warming: http://www.mps.mpg.de/dokumente/publikationen/solanki/r47.pdf http://stephenschneider.stanford.edu/Publications/PDF_Papers/Laut2003.pdf No correlation between cosmic rays and Earth's temperature: http://www.eiscat.rl.ac.uk/Members/mike/publications/pdfs/2001/196_Lockwood_2000JA000115.pdf http://ulysses.sr.unh.edu/NeutronMonitor/Misc/neutron2.html In fact, periods of increased cosmic rays show no correlation with Earth warming: http://www.warwickhughes.com/agri/lockwood2007.pdf http://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsystem/features/ray_surge.html More papers that refuted the hypothesis: http://arxiv.org/pdf/0803.2298 http://atmos-chem-phys.net/8/7373/2008/acp-8-7373-2008.pdf http://www.eawag.ch/organisation/abteilungen/surf/publikationen/2010_calogovic.pdf http://www.atmos-chem-phys.net/10/1885/2010/acp-10-1885-2010.html http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0706/0706.4294v1.pdf Go, and sin no more.
Hayduke	RE: Cosmic Rays
Posts: 23 Location: Santa Cruz, California Joined: 15.02.11	Posted on 15-02-2011 22:19
Posts: 23 Location: Santa Cruz, California Joined: 15.02.11	Desertphile wrote: [quote]Hayduke wrote: There is much more to the sun's effect on Earth climate than irradiance. This is merely a straw dog to draw attention away from the real influence of cosmic cycles. See the work of Akasofu, for example. I said nothing about cosmic rays.

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