Hurricane Harvey

GasGuzzler wrote:
Why hasn't anyone here taken a crack at blaming global warming for Harvey?

I'm disappointed.

Wake wrote:

GasGuzzler wrote:
Why hasn't anyone here taken a crack at blaming global warming for Harvey?

I'm disappointed.

I was really expecting to see spothisdrawers and surface defect tell us all about it.

The awful weather predictions about the thousands of deaths are not coming true either. There are FAR more people killed by a heat spell than rain and wind.

Into the Night wrote:

Wake wrote:

GasGuzzler wrote:
Why hasn't anyone here taken a crack at blaming global warming for Harvey?

I'm disappointed.

I was really expecting to see spothisdrawers and surface defect tell us all about it.

The awful weather predictions about the thousands of deaths are not coming true either. There are FAR more people killed by a heat spell than rain and wind.

Sure made a mess out of the coast though. Good thing we have all those resources to rebuilt in our (as far as Greenman is concerned) dying world!

"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" woofed:... spothisdrawers and surface defect...

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Wake wrote:

GasGuzzler wrote:
Why hasn't anyone here taken a crack at blaming global warming for Harvey?

I'm disappointed.

I was really expecting to see spothisdrawers and surface defect tell us all about it.

The awful weather predictions about the thousands of deaths are not coming true either. There are FAR more people killed by a heat spell than rain and wind.

Sure made a mess out of the coast though. Good thing we have all those resources to rebuilt in our (as far as Greenman is concerned) dying world!

And guess what else, your foolish leader is busy cutting away all the provisions his predecessor put in place to deal with the affects of Global Warming. So it will be even easier for them to go right back up to the beach with their roads and houses. Such a thrilling time to be alive.

So what is this thread about? It looks like a preemptive strike, for no apparent reason. It's a little difficult to blame hurricanes on Global Warming, since they have been occurring since humans have been running around in boats and living in little grass huts beside the sea. Flooding appears to be the problem now, as before. It will get worse as time goes on, and the oceans come on in.

I think there were 5 deaths. Sad that anyone dies. Maybe the next one will make you guys happier, with a death toll in the hundreds.

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Wake wrote:

GasGuzzler wrote:
Why hasn't anyone here taken a crack at blaming global warming for Harvey?

I'm disappointed.

I was really expecting to see spothisdrawers and surface defect tell us all about it.

The awful weather predictions about the thousands of deaths are not coming true either. There are FAR more people killed by a heat spell than rain and wind.

Sure made a mess out of the coast though. Good thing we have all those resources to rebuilt in our (as far as Greenman is concerned) dying world!

And guess what else, your foolish leader is busy cutting away all the provisions his predecessor put in place to deal with the affects of Global Warming. So it will be even easier for them to go right back up to the beach with their roads and houses. Such a thrilling time to be alive.

So what is this thread about? It looks like a preemptive strike, for no apparent reason. It's a little difficult to blame hurricanes on Global Warming, since they have been occurring since humans have been running around in boats and living in little grass huts beside the sea. Flooding appears to be the problem now, as before. It will get worse as time goes on, and the oceans come on in.

I think there were 5 deaths. Sad that anyone dies. Maybe the next one will make you guys happier, with a death toll in the hundreds.

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Wake wrote:

GasGuzzler wrote:
Why hasn't anyone here taken a crack at blaming global warming for Harvey?

I'm disappointed.

I was really expecting to see spothisdrawers and surface defect tell us all about it.

The awful weather predictions about the thousands of deaths are not coming true either. There are FAR more people killed by a heat spell than rain and wind.

Sure made a mess out of the coast though. Good thing we have all those resources to rebuilt in our (as far as Greenman is concerned) dying world!

And guess what else, your foolish leader is busy cutting away all the provisions his predecessor put in place to deal with the affects of Global Warming. So it will be even easier for them to go right back up to the beach with their roads and houses. Such a thrilling time to be alive.

So what is this thread about? It looks like a preemptive strike, for no apparent reason. It's a little difficult to blame hurricanes on Global Warming, since they have been occurring since humans have been running around in boats and living in little grass huts beside the sea. Flooding appears to be the problem now, as before. It will get worse as time goes on, and the oceans come on in.

I think there were 5 deaths. Sad that anyone dies. Maybe the next one will make you guys happier, with a death toll in the hundreds.

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Wake wrote:

GasGuzzler wrote:
Why hasn't anyone here taken a crack at blaming global warming for Harvey?

I'm disappointed.

I was really expecting to see spothisdrawers and surface defect tell us all about it.

The awful weather predictions about the thousands of deaths are not coming true either. There are FAR more people killed by a heat spell than rain and wind.

Sure made a mess out of the coast though. Good thing we have all those resources to rebuilt in our (as far as Greenman is concerned) dying world!

And guess what else, your foolish leader is busy cutting away all the provisions his predecessor put in place to deal with the affects of Global Warming. So it will be even easier for them to go right back up to the beach with their roads and houses. Such a thrilling time to be alive.

So what is this thread about? It looks like a preemptive strike, for no apparent reason. It's a little difficult to blame hurricanes on Global Warming, since they have been occurring since humans have been running around in boats and living in little grass huts beside the sea. Flooding appears to be the problem now, as before. It will get worse as time goes on, and the oceans come on in.

I think there were 5 deaths. Sad that anyone dies. Maybe the next one will make you guys happier, with a death toll in the hundreds.

Surface Detail wrote:

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Wake wrote:

GasGuzzler wrote:
Why hasn't anyone here taken a crack at blaming global warming for Harvey?

I'm disappointed.

I was really expecting to see spothisdrawers and surface defect tell us all about it.

The awful weather predictions about the thousands of deaths are not coming true either. There are FAR more people killed by a heat spell than rain and wind.

Sure made a mess out of the coast though. Good thing we have all those resources to rebuilt in our (as far as Greenman is concerned) dying world!

And guess what else, your foolish leader is busy cutting away all the provisions his predecessor put in place to deal with the affects of Global Warming. So it will be even easier for them to go right back up to the beach with their roads and houses. Such a thrilling time to be alive.

So what is this thread about? It looks like a preemptive strike, for no apparent reason. It's a little difficult to blame hurricanes on Global Warming, since they have been occurring since humans have been running around in boats and living in little grass huts beside the sea. Flooding appears to be the problem now, as before. It will get worse as time goes on, and the oceans come on in.

I think there were 5 deaths. Sad that anyone dies. Maybe the next one will make you guys happier, with a death toll in the hundreds.

Unfortunately, the situation in Houston is looking very bad. The trouble with widespread flooding of a heavily populated area is not so much the risk of drowning as the paralysis of infrastructure. When drinking water, sewage, electricity, gas and transport systems are rendered inoperative, it doesn't take long before desperation and social breakdown begins to set in. And the flooding in Houston looks set to go on for a while yet. Those poor people.

Surface Detail wrote:

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Wake wrote:

GasGuzzler wrote:
Why hasn't anyone here taken a crack at blaming global warming for Harvey?

I'm disappointed.

I was really expecting to see spothisdrawers and surface defect tell us all about it.

The awful weather predictions about the thousands of deaths are not coming true either. There are FAR more people killed by a heat spell than rain and wind.

Sure made a mess out of the coast though. Good thing we have all those resources to rebuilt in our (as far as Greenman is concerned) dying world!

And guess what else, your foolish leader is busy cutting away all the provisions his predecessor put in place to deal with the affects of Global Warming. So it will be even easier for them to go right back up to the beach with their roads and houses. Such a thrilling time to be alive.

So what is this thread about? It looks like a preemptive strike, for no apparent reason. It's a little difficult to blame hurricanes on Global Warming, since they have been occurring since humans have been running around in boats and living in little grass huts beside the sea. Flooding appears to be the problem now, as before. It will get worse as time goes on, and the oceans come on in.

I think there were 5 deaths. Sad that anyone dies. Maybe the next one will make you guys happier, with a death toll in the hundreds.

Unfortunately, the situation in Houston is looking very bad. The trouble with widespread flooding of a heavily populated area is not so much the risk of drowning as the paralysis of infrastructure. When drinking water, sewage, electricity, gas and transport systems are rendered inoperative, it doesn't take long before desperation and social breakdown begins to set in. And the flooding in Houston looks set to go on for a while yet. Those poor people.

Wake wrote:

Surface Detail wrote:

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Wake wrote:

GasGuzzler wrote:
Why hasn't anyone here taken a crack at blaming global warming for Harvey?

I'm disappointed.

I was really expecting to see spothisdrawers and surface defect tell us all about it.

The awful weather predictions about the thousands of deaths are not coming true either. There are FAR more people killed by a heat spell than rain and wind.

Sure made a mess out of the coast though. Good thing we have all those resources to rebuilt in our (as far as Greenman is concerned) dying world!

And guess what else, your foolish leader is busy cutting away all the provisions his predecessor put in place to deal with the affects of Global Warming. So it will be even easier for them to go right back up to the beach with their roads and houses. Such a thrilling time to be alive.

So what is this thread about? It looks like a preemptive strike, for no apparent reason. It's a little difficult to blame hurricanes on Global Warming, since they have been occurring since humans have been running around in boats and living in little grass huts beside the sea. Flooding appears to be the problem now, as before. It will get worse as time goes on, and the oceans come on in.

I think there were 5 deaths. Sad that anyone dies. Maybe the next one will make you guys happier, with a death toll in the hundreds.

Unfortunately, the situation in Houston is looking very bad. The trouble with widespread flooding of a heavily populated area is not so much the risk of drowning as the paralysis of infrastructure. When drinking water, sewage, electricity, gas and transport systems are rendered inoperative, it doesn't take long before desperation and social breakdown begins to set in. And the flooding in Houston looks set to go on for a while yet. Those poor people.

Dumbass wants to blame the weather on CO2 being emitted by the same car he drives. You don't think he would put himself out by walking or riding a bicycle do you?

[Church of AGW Denial Link Deleted]

GreenMan wrote:

Wake wrote:

Surface Detail wrote:

GreenMan wrote:

Into the Night wrote:

Wake wrote:

GasGuzzler wrote:
Why hasn't anyone here taken a crack at blaming global warming for Harvey?

I'm disappointed.

I was really expecting to see spothisdrawers and surface defect tell us all about it.

The awful weather predictions about the thousands of deaths are not coming true either. There are FAR more people killed by a heat spell than rain and wind.

Sure made a mess out of the coast though. Good thing we have all those resources to rebuilt in our (as far as Greenman is concerned) dying world!

And guess what else, your foolish leader is busy cutting away all the provisions his predecessor put in place to deal with the affects of Global Warming. So it will be even easier for them to go right back up to the beach with their roads and houses. Such a thrilling time to be alive.

So what is this thread about? It looks like a preemptive strike, for no apparent reason. It's a little difficult to blame hurricanes on Global Warming, since they have been occurring since humans have been running around in boats and living in little grass huts beside the sea. Flooding appears to be the problem now, as before. It will get worse as time goes on, and the oceans come on in.

I think there were 5 deaths. Sad that anyone dies. Maybe the next one will make you guys happier, with a death toll in the hundreds.

Unfortunately, the situation in Houston is looking very bad. The trouble with widespread flooding of a heavily populated area is not so much the risk of drowning as the paralysis of infrastructure. When drinking water, sewage, electricity, gas and transport systems are rendered inoperative, it doesn't take long before desperation and social breakdown begins to set in. And the flooding in Houston looks set to go on for a while yet. Those poor people.

Dumbass wants to blame the weather on CO2 being emitted by the same car he drives. You don't think he would put himself out by walking or riding a bicycle do you?

[Church of AGW Denial Link Deleted]

True that. I do drive a car to work.

GreenMan wrote:
And yes I do think CO2 affects our overall climate, which the current weather is a part of.

GreenMan wrote:
And it is a paradox.

GreenMan wrote:
I suppose that's why idiots like you point it out.

GreenMan wrote:
There currently is no solution to our living in a commuter society.

GreenMan wrote:
Even if we had electric cars, they still require energy that comes from fossil fueled generators.

GreenMan wrote:
So I, like everyone else, do what I have to do.

GreenMan wrote:
And I am also working on plans for large scale off grid life.

GreenMan wrote:
We will get to there, because we have to eventually, whether we want to or not.

GreenMan wrote:
That link was quite interesting. I didn't realize that it had been 12 years since a major hurricane strike. Not sure of the relevance of that, except to slam Al Gore, who is a politician not a scientist. Duh

GreenMan wrote:
This storm was unusual in strength and longevity.

GreenMan wrote:
So the irony of the link is that it is what Al Gore warned us about, lol. That storm slipped into the Gulf of Mexico and went crazy on the warm water it found there.

GreenMan wrote:
I'm thinking Al was just a little off on how long it would take for this thing to unfold.

GasGuzzler wrote:
The unique thing about Harvey is that he's not gone anywhere. He was a weak Cat 4, nothing out of the ordinary. He made a normal landfall with a normal landfalling speed of around 10 mph. There was torrential rainfall associated with the system, but that is entirely normal. But due to persistent and somewhat stagnant high pressure in the dessert southwest, Harvey came to a halt, backed up, and went back to the coast for a 5 day sit and spin. This is what we've not seen before in our lifetime. So, if anyone would like to blame the 50" of rain on overheated gulf waters, and I know there's some that would like to, first ask yourself how CO2 caused the system to stall. The lack of forward propagation is the only thing out of the ordinary here.

Good luck to all the people in and of Southeast Texas tonight. I do have a sick feeling that tomorrow may be bad. For the first time ever I agree with Surface Detail, desperation and social breakdown is a real concern. Texans are tough, but the road ahead is ridiculously rough.

GreenMan wrote:
True that. I do drive a car to work. And yes I do think CO2 affects our overall climate, which the current weather is a part of. And it is a paradox. I suppose that's why idiots like you point it out. There currently is no solution to our living in a commuter society. Even if we had electric cars, they still require energy that comes from fossil fueled generators. So I, like everyone else, do what I have to do. And I am also working on plans for large scale off grid life. We will get to there, because we have to eventually, whether we want to or not.

That link was quite interesting. I didn't realize that it had been 12 years since a major hurricane strike. Not sure of the relevance of that, except to slam Al Gore, who is a politician not a scientist. Duh

This storm was unusual in strength and longevity. So the irony of the link is that it is what Al Gore warned us about, lol. That storm slipped into the Gulf of Mexico and went crazy on the warm water it found there. I'm thinking Al was just a little off on how long it would take for this thing to unfold.

Fools see the calm before the storm as a time to party and live it up.

"old sick silly sleep sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner gazzed & guzzling" guffed: ignorance? I don't know....Greenturd, the warm waters certainly helped it strengthen to a minimal Cat 4, NOTHING out of the ordinary.....? Why is it not a hurricane after moving back out over open waters?

litesong wrote:

"old sick silly sleep sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner gazzed & guzzling" guffed: ignorance? I don't know....Greenturd, the warm waters certainly helped it strengthen to a minimal Cat 4, NOTHING out of the ordinary.....? Why is it not a hurricane after moving back out over open waters?

It is good that "old sick silly sleep sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner gazzed & guzzling" asks AFTER it was explained to it. Shows that it is an old sick silly sleep sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner. Its scenerio that global warming had nuthin' ta do with Harvey is that it was only Cat 4, instead of 5. Also, when is a Cat 4 hurricane nuthin' ta worra 'bout? Winds of 120mph (gusts to 160mph) destroyed small towns. If the greatest winds of Hurricane Harvey had NOT come on land over a lesser populated area, much more damage would have occurred.
Ya ken tell that "old sick silly sleep sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner gazzed & guzzling" watches FOX.... sorra 'bout the misspelling... should be FACKed or F*****.

"old sick silly sleep sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner gazzed & guzzling" gushed: I think he missed one.

GasGuzzler wrote:

litesong wrote:
Its scenerio that global warming had nuthin' ta do with Harvey is that it was only Cat 4, instead of 5. Also, when is a Cat 4 hurricane nuthin' ta worra 'bout? Winds of 120mph (gusts to 160mph) destroyed small towns. If the greatest winds of Hurricane Harvey had NOT come on land over a lesser populated area, much more damage would have occurred.
Ya ken tell that "old sick silly sleep sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner gazzed & guzzling" watches FOX.... sorra 'bout the misspelling... should be FACKed or F*****.

And a big thank you to George W Bush for his "no child left behind" program. Whoopsie! I think he missed one.

litesong wrote:

"old sick silly sleep sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner gazzed & guzzling" gushed: I think he missed one.

Ya ken tell that "old sick silly sleep sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner gazzed & guzzling" watches FOX.... sorra 'bout the misspelling... should be FACKed or F*****.

"old sick silly sleep sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner gazzed & guzzling" gushed: Why wouldn't I watch Fox?

"old sick silly sleep sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner gazzed & guzzling" gushed:
This thread is about a hurricane.

"old sick silly sleep sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner gazzed & guzzling" gushed:....you just have to try to stay focused.

GasGuzzler wrote: Would you like to comment on the hurricane Light beer?

[b]GasGuzzler wrote:All you have told us...

"old sick silly sleep sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner gazzed & guzzling" gushed:.... nursery rhyme...

GasGuzzler wrote:
If I respond to your nursery rhyme nonsense one more time I will have sunk to a new low... My three-year-old nephew talks less and says more than you....good bye.

GasGuzzler wrote:
No, it was a cat 4. Around 130mph

Which is why the wind devastation was so bad. It was rapidly strengthening from a category 1 or 2 as it was making landfall. If it is not in a strengthening phase it will weaken much more rapidly upon hitting land. A strengthening system seems to maintain its strength once it hits land for a while longer.

... Every hurricane is different so very typically speaking

Wake wrote:

GasGuzzler wrote:
If I respond to your nursery rhyme nonsense one more time I will have sunk to a new low...

A moron by any other name would still be litesong....

Wake wrote:

GasGuzzler wrote:
No, it was a cat 4. Around 130mph

Which is why the wind devastation was so bad. It was rapidly strengthening from a category 1 or 2 as it was making landfall. If it is not in a strengthening phase it will weaken much more rapidly upon hitting land. A strengthening system seems to maintain its strength once it hits land for a while longer.

... Every hurricane is different so very typically speaking

Here it was reported as being Cat 4 just before landfall and hitting the coast as a Cat 1 and falling rapidly to Tropical Storm status but stuck between two high pressure areas and hence dropping all it's rain in the one area.