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18-09-2017 18:48
Into the Night
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Wake wrote:
litesong wrote:
The announcer said, our western Washington around Seattle got rain yesterday, the most we've had in 5 months.... a whopping 0.1 inches! At least that beat the rain we had a week or so ago.... that was 0.02 inches.


Not surprising at all that litebrain thinks that Seattle is the high arctic.


??? He never claimed that it was! Are you brain dead???


The Parrot Killer
19-09-2017 03:43
litesong
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"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner badnight" wrote:
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" woofed:
... lite(song) thinks that Seattle is the high arctic.
He never claimed that it was! Are you brain dead???

Don't be so hard on "old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up". It was only ~ 2200+ miles off. "old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" is often off its rocker by much more than 2200 miles.
19-09-2017 04:05
litesong
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Into the Night wrote:
litesong wrote:
The announcer said, our western Washington around Seattle got rain yesterday, the most we've had in 5 months.... a whopping 0.1 inches! At least that beat the rain we had a week or so ago.... that was 0.02 inches.
We got almost an inch where I am.

Were you in the rain forest.... maybe Aberdeen, Hood Canal or Forks? Musta been Forks. That's where the vampires hang-out or hang. ha ha ha I'm so funny.
30-09-2017 21:22
litesong
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litesong wrote:Looks like we are early with the possible beginning of a new High Arctic Berserker (continuous over average temperature) for the "season". This High Arctic Berserker is already ~ 30 straight days.
The new High Arctic Berserker continues....is approaching 50 straight days of High Arctic over-temperatures.
01-10-2017 09:38
litesong
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litesong wrote:
litesong wrote:Looks like we are early with the possible beginning of a new High Arctic Berserker (continuous over average temperature) for the "season". This High Arctic Berserker is already ~ 30 straight days.
The new High Arctic Berserker continues....is approaching 50 straight days of High Arctic over-temperatures.
Large 10degC over average weather patterns are on large portions of Greenland Ice Sheets, also with lots of heat northeast of Greenland.
Edited on 01-10-2017 09:44
04-10-2017 23:39
litesong
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litesong wrote:
litesong wrote:
litesong wrote:Looks like we are early with the possible beginning of a new High Arctic Berserker (continuous over average temperature) for the "season". This High Arctic Berserker is already ~ 30 straight days.
The new High Arctic Berserker continues....is approaching 50 straight days of High Arctic over-temperatures.
Large 10degC over average weather patterns are on large portions of Greenland Ice Sheets, also with lots of heat northeast of Greenland.
Up to ~ 53-4 days ago, high Arctic temperatures began normal seasonal drops, at which point High Arctic temperatures were ~ 0degC. Normal continuing temp drops at this time of year, would place the temperatures ~ ( -13degC). However, for these 53-4 days, temperatures continue to diverge from the norm, now only ~ (-8degC). For many years during this fall, winter & early spring period, "normal" temperatures are increasingly UNCOMMON, increasingly NOT at, & mostly above normal levels. The latter part of last year into the early part of this year, the High Arctic Berserker (continuous over-temperatures) lasted a strong 230-240 straight days.
06-10-2017 20:09
Gaynor
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Do you really believe you are being given accurate data? Check out doomsday 2020 The Haart report. Check out Guy Mc phearson on you tube too. Also look at the end of humanity by 2030. The official data given out by the IPCC does not include in it's data the methane, hydrogen sulphate release. I watched Peter Carter video recently who was director of IPCC who claims we are headed for a catastrophe. Check out his data on his website www.climate-change-emergency-medical-response.org
06-10-2017 20:33
litesong
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Gaynor guffed: Do you really believe you are being given accurate data?

We know old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' reprobate AGW denier liar whiners believe in "sigh-ants". We know old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' reprobate AGW denier liar whiners believe the solar TSI has been languid for many decades & low for 10+ years(including a 3+ year period setting a 100 year record low). We know old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' reprobate AGW denier liar whiners predicted a return to ice age low temperatures, which has NOT occurred, but that global temperatures have been successively setting records the last 3 years.
Meanwhile:
Present Arctic sea ice Volume is ~ 10,000+ cubic kilometers less than average sea ice Volume of the 1980's. The energy needed to melt such a volume of ice is ~ 35 times the annual energy consumption of the U.S.
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One thing I predict: 2017 global temperatures will be over the 20th century average. Real cold will have to inundate the Earth, for future years to get back under the temperature of the average of the 20th century.
& before old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' reprobate AGW denier liar whiners can say ice age temperatures are returning, at some point, 400+ straight months will have to be under the 20th century average.
Edited on 06-10-2017 21:04
07-10-2017 22:09
litesong
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litesong wrote:
Gaynor guffed: Do you really believe you are being given accurate data?

We know old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' reprobate AGW denier liar whiners believe in "sigh-ants". We know old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' reprobate AGW denier liar whiners believe the solar TSI has been languid for many decades & low for 10+ years(including a 3+ year period setting a 100 year record low). We know old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' reprobate AGW denier liar whiners predicted a return to ice age low temperatures, which has NOT occurred, but that global temperatures have been successively setting records the last 3 years.
Meanwhile:
Present Arctic sea ice Volume is ~ 10,000+ cubic kilometers less than average sea ice Volume of the 1980's. The energy needed to melt such a volume of ice is ~ 35 times the annual energy consumption of the U.S.
/////
One thing I predict: 2017 global temperatures will be over the 20th century average. Real cold will have to inundate the Earth, for future years to get back under the temperature of the average of the 20th century.
& before old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' reprobate AGW denier liar whiners can say ice age temperatures are returning, at some point, 400+ straight months will have to be under the 20th century average.

We are now entering ~ a 40 day period in which High Arctic (almost 4 million square kilometers) air temperatures have been over-warm since 2013. Since High Arctic temperatures have been over warm for ~ 55 days, High Arctic Berserker(2), we appear to have an above average chance (maybe, a well above average chance) that the Present High Arctic Berserker(2), PHAB
(2), or FAB
(2) will continue till at least its 100th day.
As stated above, Present High Arctic Berserker(1), PHAB
(1), or FAB
(1) for the period of latter 2016 to nearly first half of 2017, lasted for ~ 230 days.
Edited on 07-10-2017 22:37
12-10-2017 18:52
litesong
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litesong wrote:
Present High Arctic Berserker or FAB
is dead..... long live FAB
!!!
A mid-Siberian cold front that developed between two warm Siberian fronts, strengthened & sent a fairly narrow cold band directly to the North Pole. Simultaneously, the cold front that has been a long-time Canadian resident due to cold upwelling Northeastern Pacific Ocean waters that sent cold air into Canada, made stronger incursions into the High Arctic. Despite normal increasing warmth due to ever increasing direct solar radiation at this time of year, FAB
could not stay ahead of the average High Arctic temperature curve.
FAB
existed for a powerful 230+ days(almost 235 days?), an extreme presentation of the extreme AGW warming occurring in the High Arctic, which is an extreme reflection of general AGW Earth warming, due to increasing man-made non-phase change, infra-red energy absorbing GHGs AND their feedbacks AND AGW controlled phase change, infra-red energy absorbing GHG water vapor AND its feedbacks.
Present High Arctic Berserker or FAB
is dead..... long live FAB
!!!

My wager: 2017 (& years to come?) global temperatures will be over the 20th century average. Real cold will have to inundate the Earth, for future years to get back under the temperature of the average of the 20th century.
& before old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' reprobate AGW denier liar whiners can say ice age temperatures are returning, at some point, 400+ straight months will have to be under the 20th century average.
/////////
We are now entering ~ a 40 day period in which High Arctic (almost 4 million square kilometers) air temperatures have been over-warm since 2013. Since High Arctic temperatures have been over warm for ~ 55 days (High Arctic Berserker(2) ), we appear to have an above average chance (maybe, a well above average chance) that the Present High Arctic Berserker(2), PHAB
(2), or FAB
(2) will continue till at least its 100th day.
As stated above, Present High Arctic Berserker(1), PHAB
(1), or FAB
(1) for the period of latter 2016 to nearly first half of 2017, lasted for ~ 230 days.
Update:
Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for October 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~15,200 cubic kilometers. Present October 1, 2017 sea ice VOLUME is ~ 5000 cubic kilometers, ~ 10,200 cubic kilometers LESS than the 1980-89 average for October 1.... just under 33% of the average of the 1980's.
Oh, yeah!! The energy to melt that amount of ice is ~ 35 times the annual energy consumption of the U.S.
Oh, yeah, again!! Present High Arctic Berserker(1) or FAB
(1) is dead..... long live FAB
(2) !!!
12-10-2017 19:33
litesong
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https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/time-series/global/globe/land_ocean/ytd/12/1880-2017
Edited on 12-10-2017 19:37
15-10-2017 22:41
litesong
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litesong wrote: Since High Arctic temperatures have been over warm for ~ 55 days (High Arctic Berserker(2) ), we appear to have an above average chance (maybe, a well above average chance) that the Present High Arctic Berserker(2), PHAB
(2), or FAB
(2) will continue till at least its 100th day.

As Present High Arctic Berserker(2), PHAB
(2), or FAB
(2) approaches its 60th day, present average temperature over the nearly 4million square kilometers is ~8 degC above normal. A few wide areas within the High Arctic are ~ 10 degC over average.
While much of the western U.S. has been a bit chilly AND eastern U.S. states have been warm, in the next few days, these two regions might flip, the west generally becoming warmer & the east becoming cooler.
Edited on 15-10-2017 22:50
17-10-2017 17:29
litesong
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[b]litesong wrote: ~ 8 degC above normal..... While much of the western U.S. has been a bit chilly AND eastern U.S. states have been warm, in the next few days, these two regions might flip, the west generally becoming warmer & the east becoming cooler.

& yes, the west & east did flip, the west presently warmer, the east cooler.
Plus the High Arctic bumped up to 9degC over normal. Possibly will top out? We'll see. Large High Arctic areas really are warm!
17-10-2017 23:00
litesong
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[b]litesong wrote: Plus the High Arctic bumped up to 9degC over normal. Possibly will top out? We'll see. Large High Arctic areas really are warm!

Oh, quick move! High Arctic DID top out & even dropped 1degC.
20-10-2017 03:46
litesong
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litesong wrote:
litesong wrote: Since High Arctic temperatures have been over warm for ~ 55 days (High Arctic Berserker(2) ), we appear to have an above average chance (maybe, a well above average chance) that the Present High Arctic Berserker(2), PHAB
(2), or FAB
(2) will continue till at least its 100th day.

As Present High Arctic Berserker(2), PHAB
(2), or FAB
(2) approaches its 60th day, present average temperature over the nearly 4million square kilometers is ~8 degC above normal.

Present High Arctic Berserker(2), PHAB
(2), or FAB
(2) has passed its 60th day of existence. Back in the late 1950's & early 1960's, this would have been a record breaking event!! Back then, long term High Arctic over-temperatures were 30-40 days. It would be hard to find any over-temperature period was 50 days. However, as AGW effects have increased, High Arctic over-temperature periods have been extending. I thought it remarkable when one period went to 100 days. Then others appeared, 120 to 140 days in length. Then last year the wild Present High Arctic Berserker(1), PHAB
(1) or FAB
(1) sizzled the Arctic for 230+ days.
Yes, its stunning that the Present High Arctic Berserker(2), PHAB
(2) or FAB
(2), which presently busts records of the mid-20th century..... hasn't reached one third of the way to last year's record.
Edited on 20-10-2017 03:49
20-10-2017 16:31
litesong
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Present High Arctic Berserker(2), PHAB
(2), or FAB
(2) , now past its 60th day, has a heart of heat running thru the North Pole area, really helping sustain it at ~ 8degC over-temperature. Now this heart of heat may move off the North Pole region, which normally would lower the temperature anomaly on the High Arctic. However, at the same time, one very large cold region in the High Arctic, may also reduce in size. For the next five days or so, indications show that Present High Arctic Berserker(2), PHAB
(2), or FAB
(2) will extend its well above average temperatures.
Edited on 20-10-2017 16:32
20-10-2017 17:29
litesong
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On Greenland, the present very coldest temperatures are as low as -30degC, those temps being on the highest elevations of Ice Sheet. However, temperatures are NOT -40 degC., as has been the historical average. Now, as these fairly warm temperature fronts slide off the GIS to the east, down slope heating really concentrates this "disguised" heat. Presently, upon reaching the Atlantic Ocean, weather fronts move this heat directly to the North Pole region.
25-10-2017 17:22
litesong
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[b]litesong wrote: For the next five days or so, indications show that Present High Arctic Berserker(2), PHAB
(2), or FAB
(2) will extend its well above average temperatures.

As Present High Arctic Berserker(2), PHAB
(2), or FAB
(2) reaches towards 70 days of existence, a cool region ranges from the high archipelago islands of Canada, down thru Canada & onto the mid-U.S., angling all the way to Florida. A thinner arm of the cool front edges northwest, entering the High Arctic, suppessing temperatures. Of course, it is the time of year that High Arctic temperatures are falling. But, average anomalous temperatures that were as high as 8degC over-temperatures, appear to be UNDER 5degC. over-temperature now. This cool region is predicted to remain, possibly lowering temperatures of the Present High Arctic Berserker(2), PHAB
(2), or FAB
(2), even more.
Edited on 25-10-2017 17:54
26-10-2017 17:02
litesong
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A portion of the cool region mentioned above is continuing to grow in the High Arctic. Within a week or so, the Present High Arctic Berserker (2), PHAB
(2), or FAB
(2) , in a precipitous fall, has cooled from 8degC over-temperature & now is only 4degC over-temperature, compared to the normal seasonal drop of High Arctic Autumn temperatures.
27-10-2017 00:24
litesong
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Predictions indicate that the cool region stretching from the High Arctic & Canadian Archipelago all the way to Florida, will expand in the south, taking over all the eastern U.S., as far west to the Colorado border, except for New England. The cold front also wll continue to do battle with the "heat" coming off the Greenland Ice Sheet that is transporting to the North Pole region. Also, a warm front just north of Siberia, along with the GIS "heat" is trying to restrain the northern incursion of the large cool region.
27-10-2017 17:11
Wake
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litesong wrote:
Predictions indicate that the cool region stretching from the High Arctic & Canadian Archipelago all the way to Florida, will expand in the south, taking over all the eastern U.S., as far west to the Colorado border, except for New England. The cold front also wll continue to do battle with the "heat" coming off the Greenland Ice Sheet that is transporting to the North Pole region. Also, a warm front just north of Siberia, along with the GIS "heat" is trying to restrain the northern incursion of the large cool region.


Are you attempting to say that you have any understanding of this as being anything other than the normal chaotic weather events?
28-10-2017 01:06
litesong
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Wake wrote:
litesong wrote:
Predictions indicate that the cool region stretching from the High Arctic & Canadian Archipelago all the way to Florida, will expand in the south, taking over all the eastern U.S., as far west to the Colorado border, except for New England. The cold front also wll continue to do battle with the "heat" coming off the Greenland Ice Sheet that is transporting to the North Pole region. Also, a warm front just north of Siberia, along with the GIS "heat" is trying to restrain the northern incursion of the large cool region.

Are you attempting to say that you have any understanding of this as being anything other than the normal chaotic weather events?

Thank you for your interest in over-temperature Present High Arctic Berserker (2), PHAB
(2), or FAB
(2), which has been over-temperature for ~ 70 days.
Meanwhile, the over- temperatures of FAB
(2) reduced from recent 8degC. over, to ~ 3.5degC. over average temperature.
Edited on 28-10-2017 01:11
28-10-2017 17:01
litesong
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litesong wrote:
"old sick silly sleepy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" woofed:
litesong wrote:
Predictions indicate that the cool region stretching from the High Arctic & Canadian Archipelago all the way to Florida, will expand in the south, taking over all the eastern U.S., as far west to the Colorado border, except for New England. The cold front also wll continue to do battle with the "heat" coming off the Greenland Ice Sheet that is transporting to the North Pole region. Also, a warm front just north of Siberia, along with the GIS "heat" is trying to restrain the northern incursion of the large cool region.

Are you attempting to say that you have any understanding of this as being anything other than the normal chaotic weather events?

Thank you for your interest in over-temperature Present High Arctic Berserker (2), PHAB
(2), or FAB
(2), which has been over-temperature for ~ 70 days.
Meanwhile, the over- temperatures of FAB
(2) reduced from recent 8degC. over, to ~ 3.5degC. over average temperature.

In November 2016 Present High Arctic Berserker (1), PHAB
(1), or FAB
(1), averaged over almost 4 million square millions, plunged ~ 16degC within a 20 day period. When it finally pulled out of its dive, temperatures were still well over-temperature, because the fall started from a record 20(+?) degC over-temperature. FAB
(1) continued for a wondrous 230+ days!
If FAB
(2) plunges 16 degC within a 20 day period, FAB
(2) would come to an end (& sooner than 20 days), because FAB
(2) is falling from an over-temperature of "only" 8degC over-temperature. At this time FAB
(2) is only 3degC. over-temperature.
Again, thank you to "old sick silly sleepy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" for its pretended interest in FAB
(1) & FAB
(2).
28-10-2017 19:11
litesong
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[b]litesong wrote:.... FAB
(2) is falling from an over-temperature of "only" 8degC over-temperature. At this time FAB
(2) is only 3degC. over-temperature.

Tho average Present High Arctic Berserker(2) temperatures are moving closer to "normal, average" temperatures, major disparate cold & warm fronts are presently in dynamic flow in the High Arctic. The cold front is large. However, one warm front, north of BOTH ALASKA & SIBERIA, circles much of the cold front. Predictions indicate that the cold front(at least, part of it) will move closer to the North Pole region over the next 5 days.
Edited on 28-10-2017 19:23
29-10-2017 20:35
litesong
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litesong wrote:.... FAB
(2) is falling from an over-temperature of "only" 8degC over-temperature. At this time FAB
(2) is only 3degC. over-temperature.

The cold front in the High Arctic is near the North Pole. As such, Present High Arctic Berserker (2) or FAB
(2) average temperature continues lowering, now a 9+degC drop & only ~ 2.5degC above average.
Edited on 29-10-2017 20:36
29-10-2017 22:05
Wake
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litesong wrote:
litesong wrote:.... FAB
(2) is falling from an over-temperature of "only" 8degC over-temperature. At this time FAB
(2) is only 3degC. over-temperature.

The cold front in the High Arctic is near the North Pole. As such, Present High Arctic Berserker (2) or FAB
(2) average temperature continues lowering, now a 9+degC drop & only ~ 2.5degC above average.


"After setting a record low seasonal maximum in early March, Arctic sea ice extent continued to track low through July. However, the rate of ice loss slowed in August and September. The daily minimum extent, reached on September 13, was the eighth lowest on record, while the monthly average extent was seventh lowest. In Antarctica, sea ice extent may have reached its annual winter maximum."

And how long is that record again? Oh yeah - since 1979. Now everyone has to admit that the EIGHTH LOWEST ON RECORD really has a lot of weight especially considering that in MARCH of 1959 the USS nuclear submarine Skate surfaced at the north pole with no ice. And the following year the USS Nautilus surfaced through very thin ice.

The pure ignorance of litebrain is something that has to be followed once in awhile to be believed. Tell us litebrain - how often do you have people pee in your mouth so that you can spew it all over the Internet?
30-10-2017 01:01
litesong
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"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reporbate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" woofed:....MARCH of 1959 the USS nuclear submarine Skate surfaced at the north pole with no ice. And the following year the USS Nautilus surfaced through very thin ice.

"wake-me-up" continues dozing, repeating its story, & I repeat the difficulties of both submarines. From the Skate's captain's 1960 book:
"Surface at the Pole: The Extraordinary Voyages of the USS Skate,"[4] where Calvert said, "Seldom had the ice seemed so heavy and so thick as it did in the immediate vicinity of the pole.
As for the Nautilus:
The most difficult part of the journey was in the Bering Strait. The ice extended as much as 60 feet (18 m) below sea level. During the initial attempt to go through the Bering Strait, there was insufficient room between the ice and the sea bottom.
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As of recent years, even sea doos, entering the Arctic seas from the Bering Strait, have worked their way thru the entire Alaskan Arctic waters & only been stopped after exploring a fair west to east portion of the High Arctic Canadian mainland AND EVEN INTO PARTS OF THE CANADIAN ARCHIPELAGO.
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"wake-me-up" & the other AGW denier liar whiner waifs pretend their stories of surfacing submarines show less Arctic sea ice before the 80's. Of course, there weren't decreases, as closer examinations of submarine logs indicate.
30-10-2017 03:31
litesong
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litesong wrote:
litesong wrote:.... FAB
(2) is falling from an over-temperature of "only" 8degC over-temperature. At this time FAB
(2) is only 3degC. over-temperature.

The cold front in the High Arctic is near the North Pole. As such, Present High Arctic Berserker (2) or FAB
(2) average temperature continues lowering, now a 9+degC drop & only ~ 2.5degC above average.

Oh, oh! There is a jammed halt to the temperature drop of the Present High Arctic Berserker (2) or FAB
(2). One day has passed, without extra temperature drop. Meanwhile, the average High Arctic temperature line drops, now indicating that the FAB
(2) rose, possibly as high as 3degC above normal. Tho the cold front is in the High Arctic, it continues to be surrounded on 3 sides. Predictions indicate that the same conditions will prevail for up to 5 days, possibly with a very slight dilution of the cold front.
30-10-2017 03:33
litesong
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litesong wrote:
litesong wrote:
litesong wrote:.... FAB
(2) is falling from an over-temperature of "only" 8degC over-temperature. At this time FAB
(2) is only 3degC. over-temperature.

The cold front in the High Arctic is near the North Pole. As such, Present High Arctic Berserker (2) or FAB
(2) average temperature continues lowering, now a 9+degC drop & only ~ 2.5degC above average.

Oh, oh! There is a jammed halt to the temperature drop of the Present High Arctic Berserker (2) or FAB
(2). One day has passed, without extra temperature drop. Meanwhile, the average High Arctic temperature line drops, now indicating that the FAB
(2) rose, possibly as high as 3degC above normal. Tho the cold front is in the High Arctic, it continues to be surrounded on 3 sides. Predictions indicate that the same conditions will prevail for up to 5 days, possibly with a very slight dilution of the cold front.
30-10-2017 05:30
Wake
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litesong wrote:
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reporbate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" woofed:....MARCH of 1959 the USS nuclear submarine Skate surfaced at the north pole with no ice. And the following year the USS Nautilus surfaced through very thin ice.

"wake-me-up" continues dozing, repeating its story, & I repeat the difficulties of both submarines. From the Skate's captain's 1960 book:
"Surface at the Pole: The Extraordinary Voyages of the USS Skate,"[4] where Calvert said, "Seldom had the ice seemed so heavy and so thick as it did in the immediate vicinity of the pole.
As for the Nautilus:
The most difficult part of the journey was in the Bering Strait. The ice extended as much as 60 feet (18 m) below sea level. During the initial attempt to go through the Bering Strait, there was insufficient room between the ice and the sea bottom.
//////////
As of recent years, even sea doos, entering the Arctic seas from the Bering Strait, have worked their way thru the entire Alaskan Arctic waters & only been stopped after exploring a fair west to east portion of the High Arctic Canadian mainland AND EVEN INTO PARTS OF THE CANADIAN ARCHIPELAGO.
/////////
"wake-me-up" & the other AGW denier liar whiner waifs pretend their stories of surfacing submarines show less Arctic sea ice before the 80's. Of course, there weren't decreases, as closer examinations of submarine logs indicate.


"The USS Skate (SSN-578) made submarine history on 11 August 1958 when it became the first submarine to surface at the North Pole.
The officer who had climbed to the bridge with Calvert called the skipper's attention to the port side of the ship. There a full grown polar bear was climbing slowly out of the water and up onto the ice.
The date was 11 August 1958 and the Skate had just become the first submarine to surface at the North Pole."
http://www.navalhistory.org...

Cause you see polar bears can eat when they can't get to the water.
30-10-2017 05:33
Wake
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litesong wrote:
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reporbate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" woofed:....MARCH of 1959 the USS nuclear submarine Skate surfaced at the north pole with no ice. And the following year the USS Nautilus surfaced through very thin ice.

"wake-me-up" continues dozing, repeating its story, & I repeat the difficulties of both submarines. From the Skate's captain's 1960 book:
"Surface at the Pole: The Extraordinary Voyages of the USS Skate,"[4] where Calvert said, "Seldom had the ice seemed so heavy and so thick as it did in the immediate vicinity of the pole.
As for the Nautilus:
The most difficult part of the journey was in the Bering Strait. The ice extended as much as 60 feet (18 m) below sea level. During the initial attempt to go through the Bering Strait, there was insufficient room between the ice and the sea bottom.
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As of recent years, even sea doos, entering the Arctic seas from the Bering Strait, have worked their way thru the entire Alaskan Arctic waters & only been stopped after exploring a fair west to east portion of the High Arctic Canadian mainland AND EVEN INTO PARTS OF THE CANADIAN ARCHIPELAGO.
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"wake-me-up" & the other AGW denier liar whiner waifs pretend their stories of surfacing submarines show less Arctic sea ice before the 80's. Of course, there weren't decreases, as closer examinations of submarine logs indicate.


Skate was there in '58, in a lead or polynya, Skate and Seadragon in 1962, in a polynya, Billfish, Seadevil, and the Brit's HMS Superb, in a polynya - all those occasions, they surfaced at the pole in ice-free water, documented by photographs.
30-10-2017 17:13
litesong
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(2039)
Wake wrote:
litesong wrote:
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" woofed:....MARCH of 1959 the USS nuclear submarine Skate surfaced at the north pole with no ice. And the following year the USS Nautilus surfaced through very thin ice.

"wake-me-up" continues dozing, repeating its story, & I repeat the difficulties of both submarines. From the Skate's captain's 1960 book:
"Surface at the Pole: The Extraordinary Voyages of the USS Skate,"[4] where Calvert said, "Seldom had the ice seemed so heavy and so thick as it did in the immediate vicinity of the pole.
As for the Nautilus:
The most difficult part of the journey was in the Bering Strait. The ice extended as much as 60 feet (18 m) below sea level. During the initial attempt to go through the Bering Strait, there was insufficient room between the ice and the sea bottom.
//////////
As of recent years, even sea doos, entering the Arctic seas from the Bering Strait, have worked their way thru the entire Alaskan Arctic waters & only been stopped after exploring a fair west to east portion of the High Arctic Canadian mainland AND EVEN INTO PARTS OF THE CANADIAN ARCHIPELAGO.
/////////
"wake-me-up" & the other AGW denier liar whiner waifs pretend their stories of surfacing submarines show less Arctic sea ice before the 80's. Of course, there weren't decreases, as closer examinations of submarine logs indicate.

......they surfaced at the pole in ice-free water, documented by photographs.

& the logs of both submarines detail the weeks of searching under exceedingly thick Arctic sea ice to find those holes, far fewer holes & far thicker sea ice than during recent years of Arctic sea ice. It is good that "old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" helps highlight the great & dangerous adventures to explore the Arctic in the mid-1950's & 60's.
30-10-2017 21:29
Wake
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(2767)
litesong wrote:
Wake wrote:
litesong wrote:
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" woofed:....MARCH of 1959 the USS nuclear submarine Skate surfaced at the north pole with no ice. And the following year the USS Nautilus surfaced through very thin ice.

"wake-me-up" continues dozing, repeating its story, & I repeat the difficulties of both submarines. From the Skate's captain's 1960 book:
"Surface at the Pole: The Extraordinary Voyages of the USS Skate,"[4] where Calvert said, "Seldom had the ice seemed so heavy and so thick as it did in the immediate vicinity of the pole.
As for the Nautilus:
The most difficult part of the journey was in the Bering Strait. The ice extended as much as 60 feet (18 m) below sea level. During the initial attempt to go through the Bering Strait, there was insufficient room between the ice and the sea bottom.
//////////
As of recent years, even sea doos, entering the Arctic seas from the Bering Strait, have worked their way thru the entire Alaskan Arctic waters & only been stopped after exploring a fair west to east portion of the High Arctic Canadian mainland AND EVEN INTO PARTS OF THE CANADIAN ARCHIPELAGO.
/////////
"wake-me-up" & the other AGW denier liar whiner waifs pretend their stories of surfacing submarines show less Arctic sea ice before the 80's. Of course, there weren't decreases, as closer examinations of submarine logs indicate.

......they surfaced at the pole in ice-free water, documented by photographs.

& the logs of both submarines detail the weeks of searching under exceedingly thick Arctic sea ice to find those holes, far fewer holes & far thicker sea ice than during recent years of Arctic sea ice. It is good that "old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" helps highlight the great & dangerous adventures to explore the Arctic in the mid-1950's & 60's.


You are either stupid or a liar.

https://www.navalhistory.org/2011/08/11/uss-skate-ssn-578-becomes-the-first-submarine-to-surface-at-the-north-pole

They have a picture of the USS Skate in open water at the north pole.
31-10-2017 00:45
litesong
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(2039)
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" woofed: You are either stupid or a liar.

Told you plenty of times, but you auto-block:
From Skate's captain's 1960 book, "Surface at the Pole:
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The Extraordinary Voyages of the USS Skate,"[4] where Calvert said, "Seldom had the ice seemed so heavy and so thick as it did in the immediate vicinity of the pole. For days we had searched in vain for a suitable opening to surface in."[5] The closest was to make radio contact at the surface from a polynya around 30 nm away, but not to surface fully owing to the risk of damage from ice.[4] Skate did manage to surface and make contact with Drifting Ice Station Alpha at 85ºN, 300 nm away.[6]
As for the Nautilus:
....she entered the Chukchi Sea, but was turned back by deep drift ice in those shallow waters. On 28 June she arrived at Pearl Harbor to await better ice conditions.......By 23 July 1958 her wait was over, and she set a course northward......The most difficult part of the journey was in the Bering Strait. The ice extended as much as 60 feet (18 m) below sea level. During the initial attempt to go through the Bering Strait, there was insufficient room between the ice and the sea bottom. During the second, successful attempt to pass through the Bering passage, the submarine passed through a known channel close to Alaska....

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01-11-2017 15:50
litesong
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(2039)
Present High Arctic Berserker (2), PHAB
(2), or FAB
(2), has been over-temperature for ~ 75 days. Before its 70th day, the over- temperatures of FAB
(2) reduced from 8degC. over, to ~ 2.5degC. over average temperature, on its way to extinction. However, the temperature reduction abruptly stopped & is now "vibrating around 3 to 3.5 degC over-temperature. The cold front that was & is sweeping thru the North Pole region is predicted to move away from the North Pole area & temperatures above the 80th parallel may be buoyed up.
Still, along with warm fronts in the High Arctic, a very cold front has been over the Canadian Arctic Islands & may displace part of the warm front that has been over Greenland, that has pumped heat into the High Arctic. If that cold front proceeded into the High Arctic, FAB
(2) could still come to an end BEFORE its 100th day.
01-11-2017 17:21
Wake
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(2767)
litesong wrote:
Present High Arctic Berserker (2), PHAB
(2), or FAB
(2), has been over-temperature for ~ 75 days. Before its 70th day, the over- temperatures of FAB
(2) reduced from 8degC. over, to ~ 2.5degC. over average temperature, on its way to extinction. However, the temperature reduction abruptly stopped & is now "vibrating around 3 to 3.5 degC over-temperature. The cold front that was & is sweeping thru the North Pole region is predicted to move away from the North Pole area & temperatures above the 80th parallel may be buoyed up.
Still, along with warm fronts in the High Arctic, a very cold front has been over the Canadian Arctic Islands & may displace part of the warm front that has been over Greenland, that has pumped heat into the High Arctic. If that cold front proceeded into the High Arctic, FAB
(2) could still come to an end BEFORE its 100th day.


Tell us all more about how you are so smart that you can tell that the ice in the Arctic has always been the way it is supposed to be in your mind. Or actually in your mindlessness.
01-11-2017 23:19
litesong
★★★★★
(2039)
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" woofed:
litesong wrote: Present High Arctic Berserker (2), PHAB
(2), or FAB
(2), has been over-temperature for ~ 75 days. Before its 70th day, the over- temperatures of FAB
(2) reduced from 8degC. over, to ~ 2.5degC. over average temperature, on its way to extinction. However, the temperature reduction abruptly stopped & is now "vibrating around 3 to 3.5 degC over-temperature. The cold front that was & is sweeping thru the North Pole region is predicted to move away from the North Pole area & temperatures above the 80th parallel may be buoyed up.
Still, along with warm fronts in the High Arctic, a very cold front has been over the Canadian Arctic Islands & may displace part of the warm front that has been over Greenland, that has pumped heat into the High Arctic. If that cold front proceeded into the High Arctic, FAB
(2) could still come to an end BEFORE its 100th day.


Tell us all more...

I been tellin' ya.... I'll keep ya IN-formed 'bout da excitin' exploits of FAB
(2). ISS already ah passel o' livin' in jes' 75 days! Meanwhile:
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" is an old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner.
01-11-2017 23:45
litesong
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(2039)
Before its 70th day, the over-temperatures of FAB
(2) reduced from 8degC. over, to ~ 2.5degC. over average temperature, on its way to extinction. However, FAB
(2) temperature abruptly stopped dropping. With a little burp upward, & the long-term High Arctic temperature at its normal seasonal reduction, FAB
(2) has bumped upward to 5degC over-temperature. Extra over-temperature may also occur, extending FABB((2) past its present 75 day existence.
Edited on 01-11-2017 23:49
02-11-2017 01:56
litesong
★★★★★
(2039)
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" woofed: Tell us all more....

The best bet for the 75 day long FAB
(2) to come to an end (despite its present 5degC over-temperature) is WITHIN the next 10 days or to its 85th day of existence. Failing this, the prediction 3+ weeks ago, that FAB
(2) could extend to 100 days.... largely strengthens.
However, the strong cold front in the Canadian Arctic Islands could extinguish FAB
(2), IF IT WOULD move into the High Arctic.
Edited on 02-11-2017 02:29
02-11-2017 16:04
litesong
★★★★★
(2039)
litesong wrote:
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" woofed: Tell us all more....

The best bet for the 75 day long FAB
(2) to come to an end (despite its present 5degC over-temperature) is WITHIN the next 10 days or to its 85th day of existence. Failing this, the prediction 3+ weeks ago, that FAB
(2) could extend to 100 days.... largely strengthens.
However, the strong cold front in the Canadian Arctic Islands could extinguish FAB
(2), IF IT WOULD move into the High Arctic.

Strengthening predictions are that the cold front over much of Canada & anomalously very cold over Arctic Canadian islands, will not move into the High Arctic.
Edited on 02-11-2017 16:16
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