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18-09-2017 18:48
Into the Night
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Wake wrote:
litesong wrote:
The announcer said, our western Washington around Seattle got rain yesterday, the most we've had in 5 months.... a whopping 0.1 inches! At least that beat the rain we had a week or so ago.... that was 0.02 inches.


Not surprising at all that litebrain thinks that Seattle is the high arctic.


??? He never claimed that it was! Are you brain dead???


The Parrot Killer
19-09-2017 03:43
litesong
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"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner badnight" wrote:
"old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" woofed:
... lite(song) thinks that Seattle is the high arctic.
He never claimed that it was! Are you brain dead???

Don't be so hard on "old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up". It was only ~ 2200+ miles off. "old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar whiner wake-me-up" is often off its rocker by much more than 2200 miles.
19-09-2017 04:05
litesong
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Into the Night wrote:
litesong wrote:
The announcer said, our western Washington around Seattle got rain yesterday, the most we've had in 5 months.... a whopping 0.1 inches! At least that beat the rain we had a week or so ago.... that was 0.02 inches.
We got almost an inch where I am.

Were you in the rain forest.... maybe Aberdeen, Hood Canal or Forks? Musta been Forks. That's where the vampires hang-out or hang. ha ha ha I'm so funny.
30-09-2017 21:22
litesong
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litesong wrote:Looks like we are early with the possible beginning of a new High Arctic Berserker (continuous over average temperature) for the "season". This High Arctic Berserker is already ~ 30 straight days.
The new High Arctic Berserker continues....is approaching 50 straight days of High Arctic over-temperatures.
01-10-2017 09:38
litesong
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litesong wrote:
litesong wrote:Looks like we are early with the possible beginning of a new High Arctic Berserker (continuous over average temperature) for the "season". This High Arctic Berserker is already ~ 30 straight days.
The new High Arctic Berserker continues....is approaching 50 straight days of High Arctic over-temperatures.
Large 10degC over average weather patterns are on large portions of Greenland Ice Sheets, also with lots of heat northeast of Greenland.
Edited on 01-10-2017 09:44
04-10-2017 23:39
litesong
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litesong wrote:
litesong wrote:
litesong wrote:Looks like we are early with the possible beginning of a new High Arctic Berserker (continuous over average temperature) for the "season". This High Arctic Berserker is already ~ 30 straight days.
The new High Arctic Berserker continues....is approaching 50 straight days of High Arctic over-temperatures.
Large 10degC over average weather patterns are on large portions of Greenland Ice Sheets, also with lots of heat northeast of Greenland.
Up to ~ 53-4 days ago, high Arctic temperatures began normal seasonal drops, at which point High Arctic temperatures were ~ 0degC. Normal continuing temp drops at this time of year, would place the temperatures ~ ( -13degC). However, for these 53-4 days, temperatures continue to diverge from the norm, now only ~ (-8degC). For many years during this fall, winter & early spring period, "normal" temperatures are increasingly UNCOMMON, increasingly NOT at, & mostly above normal levels. The latter part of last year into the early part of this year, the High Arctic Berserker (continuous over-temperatures) lasted a strong 230-240 straight days.
06-10-2017 20:09
Gaynor
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Do you really believe you are being given accurate data? Check out doomsday 2020 The Haart report. Check out Guy Mc phearson on you tube too. Also look at the end of humanity by 2030. The official data given out by the IPCC does not include in it's data the methane, hydrogen sulphate release. I watched Peter Carter video recently who was director of IPCC who claims we are headed for a catastrophe. Check out his data on his website www.climate-change-emergency-medical-response.org
06-10-2017 20:33
litesong
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Gaynor guffed: Do you really believe you are being given accurate data?

We know old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' reprobate AGW denier liar whiners believe in "sigh-ants". We know old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' reprobate AGW denier liar whiners believe the solar TSI has been languid for many decades & low for 10+ years(including a 3+ year period setting a 100 year record low). We know old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' reprobate AGW denier liar whiners predicted a return to ice age low temperatures, which has NOT occurred, but that global temperatures have been successively setting records the last 3 years.
Meanwhile:
Present Arctic sea ice Volume is ~ 10,000+ cubic kilometers less than average sea ice Volume of the 1980's. The energy needed to melt such a volume of ice is ~ 35 times the annual energy consumption of the U.S.
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One thing I predict: 2017 global temperatures will be over the 20th century average. Real cold will have to inundate the Earth, for future years to get back under the temperature of the average of the 20th century.
& before old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' reprobate AGW denier liar whiners can say ice age temperatures are returning, at some point, 400+ straight months will have to be under the 20th century average.
Edited on 06-10-2017 21:04
07-10-2017 22:09
litesong
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litesong wrote:
Gaynor guffed: Do you really believe you are being given accurate data?

We know old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' reprobate AGW denier liar whiners believe in "sigh-ants". We know old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' reprobate AGW denier liar whiners believe the solar TSI has been languid for many decades & low for 10+ years(including a 3+ year period setting a 100 year record low). We know old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' reprobate AGW denier liar whiners predicted a return to ice age low temperatures, which has NOT occurred, but that global temperatures have been successively setting records the last 3 years.
Meanwhile:
Present Arctic sea ice Volume is ~ 10,000+ cubic kilometers less than average sea ice Volume of the 1980's. The energy needed to melt such a volume of ice is ~ 35 times the annual energy consumption of the U.S.
/////
One thing I predict: 2017 global temperatures will be over the 20th century average. Real cold will have to inundate the Earth, for future years to get back under the temperature of the average of the 20th century.
& before old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' reprobate AGW denier liar whiners can say ice age temperatures are returning, at some point, 400+ straight months will have to be under the 20th century average.

We are now entering ~ a 40 day period in which High Arctic (almost 4 million square kilometers) air temperatures have been over-warm since 2013. Since High Arctic temperatures have been over warm for ~ 55 days, High Arctic Berserker(2), we appear to have an above average chance (maybe, a well above average chance) that the Present High Arctic Berserker(2), PHAB
(2), or FAB
(2) will continue till at least its 100th day.
As stated above, Present High Arctic Berserker(1), PHAB
(1), or FAB
(1) for the period of latter 2016 to nearly first half of 2017, lasted for ~ 230 days.
Edited on 07-10-2017 22:37
12-10-2017 18:52
litesong
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litesong wrote:
Present High Arctic Berserker or FAB
is dead..... long live FAB
!!!
A mid-Siberian cold front that developed between two warm Siberian fronts, strengthened & sent a fairly narrow cold band directly to the North Pole. Simultaneously, the cold front that has been a long-time Canadian resident due to cold upwelling Northeastern Pacific Ocean waters that sent cold air into Canada, made stronger incursions into the High Arctic. Despite normal increasing warmth due to ever increasing direct solar radiation at this time of year, FAB
could not stay ahead of the average High Arctic temperature curve.
FAB
existed for a powerful 230+ days(almost 235 days?), an extreme presentation of the extreme AGW warming occurring in the High Arctic, which is an extreme reflection of general AGW Earth warming, due to increasing man-made non-phase change, infra-red energy absorbing GHGs AND their feedbacks AND AGW controlled phase change, infra-red energy absorbing GHG water vapor AND its feedbacks.
Present High Arctic Berserker or FAB
is dead..... long live FAB
!!!

My wager: 2017 (& years to come?) global temperatures will be over the 20th century average. Real cold will have to inundate the Earth, for future years to get back under the temperature of the average of the 20th century.
& before old sick silly sleepy sleezy slimy steenkin' reprobate AGW denier liar whiners can say ice age temperatures are returning, at some point, 400+ straight months will have to be under the 20th century average.
/////////
We are now entering ~ a 40 day period in which High Arctic (almost 4 million square kilometers) air temperatures have been over-warm since 2013. Since High Arctic temperatures have been over warm for ~ 55 days (High Arctic Berserker(2) ), we appear to have an above average chance (maybe, a well above average chance) that the Present High Arctic Berserker(2), PHAB
(2), or FAB
(2) will continue till at least its 100th day.
As stated above, Present High Arctic Berserker(1), PHAB
(1), or FAB
(1) for the period of latter 2016 to nearly first half of 2017, lasted for ~ 230 days.
Update:
Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for October 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~15,200 cubic kilometers. Present October 1, 2017 sea ice VOLUME is ~ 5000 cubic kilometers, ~ 10,200 cubic kilometers LESS than the 1980-89 average for October 1.... just under 33% of the average of the 1980's.
Oh, yeah!! The energy to melt that amount of ice is ~ 35 times the annual energy consumption of the U.S.
Oh, yeah, again!! Present High Arctic Berserker(1) or FAB
(1) is dead..... long live FAB
(2) !!!
12-10-2017 19:33
litesong
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https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/time-series/global/globe/land_ocean/ytd/12/1880-2017
Edited on 12-10-2017 19:37
15-10-2017 22:41
litesong
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litesong wrote: Since High Arctic temperatures have been over warm for ~ 55 days (High Arctic Berserker(2) ), we appear to have an above average chance (maybe, a well above average chance) that the Present High Arctic Berserker(2), PHAB
(2), or FAB
(2) will continue till at least its 100th day.

As Present High Arctic Berserker(2), PHAB
(2), or FAB
(2) approaches its 60th day, present average temperature over the nearly 4million square kilometers is ~8 degC above normal. A few wide areas within the High Arctic are ~ 10 degC over average.
While much of the western U.S. has been a bit chilly AND eastern U.S. states have been warm, in the next few days, these two regions might flip, the west generally becoming warmer & the east becoming cooler.
Edited on 15-10-2017 22:50
17-10-2017 17:29
litesong
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[b]litesong wrote: ~ 8 degC above normal..... While much of the western U.S. has been a bit chilly AND eastern U.S. states have been warm, in the next few days, these two regions might flip, the west generally becoming warmer & the east becoming cooler.

& yes, the west & east did flip, the west presently warmer, the east cooler.
Plus the High Arctic bumped up to 9degC over normal. Possibly will top out? We'll see. Large High Arctic areas really are warm!
17-10-2017 23:00
litesong
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[b]litesong wrote: Plus the High Arctic bumped up to 9degC over normal. Possibly will top out? We'll see. Large High Arctic areas really are warm!

Oh, quick move! High Arctic DID top out & even dropped 1degC.
20-10-2017 03:46
litesong
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litesong wrote:
litesong wrote: Since High Arctic temperatures have been over warm for ~ 55 days (High Arctic Berserker(2) ), we appear to have an above average chance (maybe, a well above average chance) that the Present High Arctic Berserker(2), PHAB
(2), or FAB
(2) will continue till at least its 100th day.

As Present High Arctic Berserker(2), PHAB
(2), or FAB
(2) approaches its 60th day, present average temperature over the nearly 4million square kilometers is ~8 degC above normal.

Present High Arctic Berserker(2), PHAB
(2), or FAB
(2) has passed its 60th day of existence. Back in the late 1950's & early 1960's, this would have been a record breaking event!! Back then, long term High Arctic over-temperatures were 30-40 days. It would be hard to find any over-temperature period was 50 days. However, as AGW effects have increased, High Arctic over-temperature periods have been extending. I thought it remarkable when one period went to 100 days. Then others appeared, 120 to 140 days in length. Then last year the wild Present High Arctic Berserker(1), PHAB
(1) or FAB
(1) sizzled the Arctic for 230+ days.
Yes, its stunning that the Present High Arctic Berserker(2), PHAB
(2) or FAB
(2), which presently busts records of the mid-20th century..... hasn't reached one third of the way to last year's record.
Edited on 20-10-2017 03:49
20-10-2017 16:31
litesong
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Present High Arctic Berserker(2), PHAB
(2), or FAB
(2) , now past its 60th day, has a heart of heat running thru the North Pole area, really helping sustain it at ~ 8degC over-temperature. Now this heart of heat may move off the North Pole region, which normally would lower the temperature anomaly on the High Arctic. However, at the same time, one very large cold region in the High Arctic, may also reduce in size. For the next five days or so, indications show that Present High Arctic Berserker(2), PHAB
(2), or FAB
(2) will extend its well above average temperatures.
Edited on 20-10-2017 16:32
20-10-2017 17:29
litesong
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On Greenland, the present very coldest temperatures are as low as -30degC, those temps being on the highest elevations of Ice Sheet. However, temperatures are NOT -40 degC., as has been the historical average. Now, as these fairly warm temperature fronts slide off the GIS to the east, down slope heating really concentrates this "disguised" heat. Presently, upon reaching the Atlantic Ocean, weather fronts move this heat directly to the North Pole region.
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