could we slow co2 release in enviornment by engineering a virus to kill wood eating bacteria?

codyblood wrote:
Just watched a pbs eons and it mentioned that during the last period of excess co2 there weren't any wood eating bacteria and that that cooled the planet and increased o2. just wondering if anybody has thought of that and if it had any practicality. thanks.

codyblood wrote:
Just watched a pbs eons and it mentioned that during the last period of excess co2 there weren't any wood eating bacteria and that that cooled the planet and increased o2. just wondering if anybody has thought of that and if it had any practicality. thanks.

duncan61 wrote: why is 1000/1000000 harmful to humans

HarveyH55 wrote:
1200 ppm CO2 is considered a safe indoor level, with no harmful effects. Check with OSHA or CDC, their websites will go into great detail.

Don't termites have wood eating bacteria in their digestive system? Bacteria is part of a healthy ecosystem, it called recycling. Every living thing takes resources from the environment. When they die, bacteria rot and decay, returning those nutrients to the soil, to start it all over again, in other living things. There are other things, that help break things down, besides bacteria. They targeted the bacteria, because one of their byproducts, is 'evil' CO2, which of course, essential to plant growth, and well generally all carbon-based life forms. Seems odd to me, how few of the genius, expert, climate 'scientists', miss the point that CO2, is where every living thing on this planet, gets their carbon, to make the magic happen, we call life. Plants are the only thing that extracts carbon from the environment, for everything else to consume. More CO2, is good for plants, and good for all life on the planet. Two degrees warming, isn't going to kill us. I grew up on a snow capped mountain, year round skiing. Cold, wet, and miserable most of the year. Moved to Florida over 30 years ago, and survived just fine. Even our worst heat wave, wasn't that bad, and that was way more than two degrees warmer.

codyblood wrote:
Just watched a pbs eons and it mentioned that during the last period of excess co2 there weren't any wood eating bacteria and that that cooled the planet and increased o2. just wondering if anybody has thought of that and if it had any practicality. thanks.

HarveyH55 wrote: I live and work in the United States of America, and OSHA sets the safety standards, which is 1200 ppm. Maybe they are using that messed metric system crap, or something over in the UK.

IBdaMann wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote: I live and work in the United States of America, and OSHA sets the safety standards, which is 1200 ppm. Maybe they are using that messed metric system crap, or something over in the UK.

If you read closely, OSHA uses very light wording on this matter, e.g. "should be less than 1200 ppm" or "recommends less than 1200 ppm" ...

... and they use the same wording for 10,000 ppm in other parts of the standard. They don't know. All they have are reports of people becoming light-headed in some situations of elevated CO2 and they aren't even sure that the CO2 was the cause.

The atmosphere is 800,000 ppm nitrogen and that doesn't seem to be killing anyone.

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HarveyH55 wrote: It's not really the CO2, it's the lack of oxygen.

JvJ wrote:
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JvJ wrote:
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JvJ wrote: In my opinion climate change the most serious issue that our modern society faces.

JvJ wrote:But obviously the actions that would cause an improvement seem to be very difficult and sometimes unpleasant, too.

JvJ wrote: About 80% of the whole income by advertisements is donated for afforestation. Thus, it supports not only the environment, but also the economic, social and educational state of many third countries.

codyblood wrote:
Just watched a pbs eons and it mentioned that during the last period of excess co2 there weren't any wood eating bacteria and that that cooled the planet and increased o2. just wondering if anybody has thought of that and if it had any practicality. thanks.

Swan wrote:

codyblood wrote:
Just watched a pbs eons and it mentioned that during the last period of excess co2 there weren't any wood eating bacteria and that that cooled the planet and increased o2. just wondering if anybody has thought of that and if it had any practicality. thanks.

Bacteria enable the ecosystems to exist. Stopping wood breakdown would destroy every forest

HarveyH55 wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote: I live and work in the United States of America, and OSHA sets the safety standards, which is 1200 ppm. Maybe they are using that messed metric system crap, or something over in the UK.

If you read closely, OSHA uses very light wording on this matter, e.g. "should be less than 1200 ppm" or "recommends less than 1200 ppm" ...

... and they use the same wording for 10,000 ppm in other parts of the standard. They don't know. All they have are reports of people becoming light-headed in some situations of elevated CO2 and they aren't even sure that the CO2 was the cause.

The atmosphere is 800,000 ppm nitrogen and that doesn't seem to be killing anyone.

.

It's not really the CO2, it's the lack of oxygen. CO2 is heavier, and indoors, can settle closer to the ground. Some people need higher O2 levels, than others. Hard to determine who needs what, or select a test group. It's not just smokers, or people with other lung issues.

Spongy Iris wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote:

IBdaMann wrote:

HarveyH55 wrote: I live and work in the United States of America, and OSHA sets the safety standards, which is 1200 ppm. Maybe they are using that messed metric system crap, or something over in the UK.

If you read closely, OSHA uses very light wording on this matter, e.g. "should be less than 1200 ppm" or "recommends less than 1200 ppm" ...

... and they use the same wording for 10,000 ppm in other parts of the standard. They don't know. All they have are reports of people becoming light-headed in some situations of elevated CO2 and they aren't even sure that the CO2 was the cause.

The atmosphere is 800,000 ppm nitrogen and that doesn't seem to be killing anyone.

.

It's not really the CO2, it's the lack of oxygen. CO2 is heavier, and indoors, can settle closer to the ground. Some people need higher O2 levels, than others. Hard to determine who needs what, or select a test group. It's not just smokers, or people with other lung issues.

Studies by NIOSH in 1976 dispelled the myth that carbon dioxide is an asphyxiant gas and only causes
adverse health effects when it displaces oxygen.

CO2 Concentration
Duration
Physiological Impact/Health Effect

1,000 ppm
Less than 2½ hrs.
Impairs judgment, decision-making ability, and thinking skills on a short-term basis, even for healthy individuals.

2,500 ppm
Less than 2½ hrs.
Many individuals are rendered cognitively marginal or dysfunctional.

5,000 ppm with 20.9% Oxygen
Headache, lethargy, mental slowness, emotional irritation, and sleep disruption.

6% 1-2 mins. Hearing and visual disturbances

7% (70,000 ppm) with 20.9% Oxygen
5 mins.
death

10% to 15%
Dizziness, drowsiness, severe muscle twitching, unconsciousness and
death within a few minutes.

Even though oxygen is necessary to carry out cell functions, it is not the lack of oxygen that stimulates
breathing. Breathing is stimulated by an excess of CO2. If an individual breathes too slowly (bradypnea),
does not breathe deeply enough, (dyspnea), or is exposed to excessive CO2 levels, too much CO2 can build
up. This causes increased breathing and the other physiological responses discussed above.

Concentrated CO2 conditions impact most living organisms. Plant roots can actually be suffocated, which stops
the uptake of nutrients and kills the plants.

Swan wrote:Wrong CO2 is toxic at high enough levels which is why subs have CO2 scrubbers.

HarveyH55 wrote:How in the hell would anyone believe CO2 is poison? We all produce CO2 in our bodies, constantly. In my youth, I could swim underwater over 50 meters, least a minute. There were a couple of guys on the team, who could do twice that. Nobody got hurt. Duncan can probably verify, that most indoor places, with lots of people, are in the 1,000 ppm range. Nobody falling down, gasping for air.

HarveyH55 wrote:
How in the hell would anyone believe CO2 is poison? We all produce CO2 in our bodies, constantly. In my youth, I could swim underwater over 50 meters, least a minute. There were a couple of guys on the team, who could do twice that. Nobody got hurt. Duncan can probably verify, that most indoor places, with lots of people, are in the 1,000 ppm range. Nobody falling down, gasping for air.