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13-04-2018 15:29
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Tim the plumber wrote:
GreenMan wrote:

That was a good Mark Twain quote, and he was right, about you, whose only research is reading someone else's opinion. What he said doesn't apply to me, because I did the research. I examined the evidence myself. I built a Climate Model that proves beyond a doubt that Global Warming is Real.

My opinion is that there is nothing we can do to stop the heating that is definitely coming. So our best path is thinking survival when the world turns upside down. Just a figure of speech, but a shifting of the axis is actually predicted to occur, along with the heating. I think the eruption is going to be so powerful that we actually shift a little, or even a lot. If Antarctica moves just a little from the South Pole, then it's mass would have a tendency to pull the earth into an eccentric spin until it ends up around the equator. Of course, when that happens, all the ice will melt very quickfully.

Let's hope that in a few lifetimes, because I'm not ready for that.


Publish your climate model here. We can have a look at it.


Can you imagine - he built a model. Not one single model has ever proven to show anything even close to being correct. They have all proven to be so inaccurate that they couldn't even "predict" what has occurred in the last 100 years.

But "Greenman" has a model.
13-04-2018 15:34
Wake
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GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:
GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:
LucianoA wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6NrjShiXqI


That is almost entirely bunk. If global warming and sea level changes were actually occurring there would be LESS drought and not more.


Yo dude, heat causes drought. It also cause excessive precipitation. Depends on what the landscape looks like. Take for example, the Mohave Desert, which borders a huge mountain range, which blocks moisture from the ocean. It's so dry there, that you can see the rain falling from the clouds, but it doesn't reach the ground. That's heat, and a lack of humidity.


Apparently you like to talk to hear the sound of one hand clapping. Heat doesn't cause "drought" - lack of rain does. With the change in the climate more and more precipitation is occurring around the Sahara region and more farming is occurring. Not to be too poignant but I ain't your Dude.

GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:
The glaciers that are melting are almost entirely on Greenland and as they melt away they have farmed land underneath them that was farmed before the little ice age occurred.

Contrary to the nutty True Believers talking points it wasn't called Greenland because of some sort of advertising gimmick to attract more colonists, it was called Greenland because it had a LOT of arable land.

At this point there is STILL not as much land as there had been before the little ice age.


Truth is, you have no idea why they called it Greenland. Your made up reasoning is the same as theirs.


The "truth is" that AS THE GLACIERS MELT THEY FIND THAT THE LAND BENEATH HAS BEEN FARMED. Is that like too difficult for a "yo dude" to understand?

GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:
The Oregon Petition has over 31,000 degreed scientists who deny that there is ANY man-made global warming. Over 9,000 of them are PhD's and at least three are Nobel Prize winners. You can find a youTube video with at least 25 NASA scientists explaining how the NASA command had purposely misrepresented the threats and size of "climate change" and that it is well within the boundaries of NORMAL climate variations.


The Oregon Petition was discredited as soon as it came out. Nothing but a bunch of non-climate scientists and other wannabes.


So Dr. Roy Spencer, the head of the NASA satellite weather program is a climate wannabe huh? What credentials do you have for judging ANYONE. What degree? Where do you work? What experience do you have? And while you're at it - what University awards a degree in Climate Science?

Exactly where do jackasses like you come from? You read "Skeptical Science" and think that you actually have knowledge about something. Too bad that they have no qualifications just like you.

GreenMan wrote:
Wake wrote:

I will ask you again - WHY did you present this video as if it contained any valid information?


I don't know. Maybe because she/he thought people should know what's going on. The real question is, why do you continue to spout your nonsense in here? Don't you have better things to do, than harass people who are concerned about the future of humanity? No, we're not trying to mess up capitalism. We just want to give our grandchildren a chance. Is that too much to ask for?


Exactly WHO are you kidding? If you had the slightest interest in the future of this planet you'd actually go to college and get a PhD in atmospheric physics. But you're not bright enough to do so and so you just shoot your mouth off as Mark Twain put it: "people's beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing."

This is a world for people who do and not for people to like to talk. So stop with the "Greenman" as if you had the slightest clue about environmentalism or the climate which ISN'T changing.


That was a good Mark Twain quote, and he was right, about you, whose only research is reading someone else's opinion. What he said doesn't apply to me, because I did the research. I examined the evidence myself. I built a Climate Model that proves beyond a doubt that Global Warming is Real.

My opinion is that there is nothing we can do to stop the heating that is definitely coming. So our best path is thinking survival when the world turns upside down. Just a figure of speech, but a shifting of the axis is actually predicted to occur, along with the heating. I think the eruption is going to be so powerful that we actually shift a little, or even a lot. If Antarctica moves just a little from the South Pole, then it's mass would have a tendency to pull the earth into an eccentric spin until it ends up around the equator. Of course, when that happens, all the ice will melt very quickfully.

Let's hope that in a few lifetimes, because I'm not ready for that.


Include this in your model dumbass: http://www.pnas.org/content/114/24/6221
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